United Korea Ground Forces Tech Tree

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Hi there! I’d like to present my idea for a United Korean Ground Forces tech tree, taking the best parts of the North and South and making a complete 5-line tree with as little copy-paste as possible. There is a lot of debate about where Korean vehicles should go in-game: the most common opinions seem to be the North within the Chinese tree, or the South within the US or Japanese trees, but a large number of people also want a United Korean tree, and so here it is! Korea has only previously been truly united for only a couple months following the collapse of Imperial Japan after WW2 before it was carved up by the US and USSR, so there are virtually no technological relations between them, but they have a shared history and language, and reunification, even if far off, is still a goal for many on both sides.

Due to both Koreas only existing as independent nations following WW2, and with indigenous tank building only taking place starting in the 70s for the North, and even later for the South, I believe starting at Rank III is the best option (similar to Israel). This would therefore require Rank III in possibly China, USSR or US vehicles to start progressing down this tree. Hope you enjoy it!



Vehicles
Rank III

Line 1 – DPRK Light Tanks and MBTs

✪ T-34 (1942)

T-34 (1942)

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Some of North Korea’s first tanks, obtained from the Soviet Union from the late 40s to the early 50s. They were crucial in the Korean War, and served alongside SU-76s and T-34-85s. Some are still spotted today in North Korean propaganda videos and training exercises, but most likely only in use with the Worker-Peasant Red Guards (a paramilitary militia), alongside other antiquated tanks like the T-34-85s and SU-100s.

Identical to the one in-game, BR of 4.0. Reserve vehicle.


✪ PT-76B

PT-76B

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Originally 100 ordered from the Soviet Union in 1965 and delivered between 1966 and 1967. Still in service today, as well as multiple indigenous tanks derived from various parts of the PT-76.

Identical to the one in-game, BR of 5.3.


Line 2 – ROK Light Tanks and MBTs

☯ M24

M24

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Originally used by US forces during the Korean War, some were leftover following the end of the war, and remained in South Korea primarily for training purposes. Eventually all were given away.

Identical to the one in-game, BR of 3.7. Reserve vehicle.


☯ M4A3 (76) W

M4A3 (76) W

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Originally used by US forces during the Korean War, some were leftover following the end of the war, and remained in South Korean service for a brief period of time.

Identical to the one in-game, BR of 5.7.


Line 3 – DPRK Tank Destroyers and SPGs

✪ M1974 Tŏkch’ŏn (152mm)

M1974 Tŏkch’ŏn (152mm)
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Non-turreted SPG on the chassis of the Soviet ATS-59 artillery tractor, armed with a Soviet 152mm D-20.

BR of 4.0, reserve vehicle.

Armament: 152mm D-20
Engine: 300hp, 45km/h
Armour: Thin. No substantial protection.


✪ M1981 Tŏkch’ŏn (122mm)

M1981 Tŏkch’ŏn (122mm)
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Non-turreted SPG on the chassis of the Soviet ATS-59 artillery tractor, armed with a Soviet 122mm D-74. This would primarily fire HE and possibly also APHE.

BR of 5.0

Armament: 122mm D-74
Engine: 300hp, 45km/h
Armour: Thin. No substantial protection.


✪ M1972 Tŏkch’ŏn (100mm)

M1972 Tŏkch’ŏn (100mm)
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Non-turreted SPG on the chassis of the Soviet ATS-59 artillery tractor, armed with a Soviet 100mm BS-3. Can fire all standard 100mm ammunition, but I propose this goes at 5.7 with only BR-412/412B/412D APHE rounds.

BR of 5.7.

Armament: 100mm BS-3
Engine: 300hp, 45km/h
Armour: Thin. No substantial protection.


✪ M1991 Tŏkch’ŏn (130mm)

M1991 Tŏkch’ŏn (130mm)
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Non-turreted SPG on the chassis of the Soviet ATS-59 artillery tractor, armed with a Soviet 130mm SM-4-1. Fires HE, as well as a SAP round with 204mm penetration at 1000m.

BR of 5.7. Foldered with M1972 Tŏkch’ŏn (100mm).

Armament: 130mm SM-4-1
Engine: 300hp, 45km/h
Armour: Thin. No substantial protection.


Line 4 – ROK Tank Destroyers and SPGs

☯ K105A1

K105A1

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Non-turreted SPG on the chassis of the KM500 6x6 truck, with a 105mm M101 howitzer mounted in the rear. Has an advanced FCS, but nothing that is really relevant for in-game purposes, other than a decent reload rate (~10 rpm max). Has a HEAT round with maximum penetration of ~183mm.

BR of 4.7.

Armament: 105mm M101
Engine: 236hp, 85km/h
Armour: Thin. No substantial protection.


☯ M36B2

M36B2

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Originally used by US forces during the Korean War, some were leftover following the end of the war, and remained in South Korean service for a brief period of time.

Identical to the one in-game, BR of 5.7.


Line 5 – Mixed SPAA

✪ 323 (14.5mm)

323 (14.5mm)
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SPAA on the hull of the 323 APC. Armed with quad 14.5mm KPVT machine guns, similar to the BTR-152D.

BR of 3.7.

Armament: 4x 14.5mm KPVT
Engine: 320hp, 65km/h
Armour: Thin, ~14mm. No substantial protection.


✪ M1978 Tŏkch’ŏn (37mm)

M1978 Tŏkch’ŏn (37mm)
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Turreted SPAA on the chassis of the Soviet ATS-59 artillery tractor, armed with dual Soviet/Chinese 37mm Type 65 cannons. Identical gun performance to the Phòng không T-34.

BR of 4.7.

Armament: 2x 37mm Type 65
Engine: 300hp, 45km/h
Armour: Thin. No substantial protection.


☯ KAFV-30M

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Prototype AFV derived from the K200A1 chassis, armed with a Mauser MK 30mm in an unmanned MT30K turret.

BR of 5.7.

Armament: Mauser MK 30mm
Engine: 350hp, 70km/h
Armour: Thin. Frontal arc protects against 12.7mm bullets.



Rank IV

Line 1 – DPRK Light Tanks and MBTs

✪ T-34-85

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First T-34-85s delivered by the Soviet Union in the 1940s, and served in the Korean War. Underwent upgrades in the late 60s-80s, giving them new roadwheels, new tracks, new radios and provisions for slat armour. Also potential to give them HEAT-FS in game to justify a higher BR and make them more unique to the standard T-34-85.

BR of 6.0 (With slat armour and HEAT-FS modifications).

Armament: 85mm ZiS-S-53
Engine: 500hp, 55km/h
Armour: 45mm UFP, sides and rear. 90mm turret front.


✪ 323 Light Tank

323 Light Tank
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Amphibious light tank based on the chassis of the North Korean 323 APC, with a turret similar to that of the PT-76 mounting an 85mm Type 62 cannon (same as on the Chinese Type 62/63).

BR of 6.3.

Armament: 85mm Type 62-85-TC
Engine: 320hp, 65km/h
Armour: Thin, roughly 14-15mm all around.


✪ Sinhŭng (2015)

Sinhŭng (2015)
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Amphibious light tank based on an extended and modified chassis of the North Korean 323 APC, with a turret similar to that of the PT-76 mounting an elongated 85mm Type 62 cannon (same as on the Chinese Type 62/63). The 2015 model in particular adds smoke grenades, and some vehicles have Igla MANPADs.

BR of 6.7. Foldered with the 323 Light Tank.

Armament: 85mm Type 62-85-TC
Engine: 320hp, 65km/h
Armour: Thin, roughly 14-15mm all around.


Line 2 – ROK Light Tanks and MBTs

☯ M46

M46 Patton

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Originally used by US forces during the Korean War, some were leftover following the end of the war, and remained in South Korean service for a brief period of time.

Identical to the one in-game, BR of 7.0. Foldered with M26 Pershing.


Line 3 – DPRK Tank Destroyers and SPGs

✪ M1991 Chuch'e-Po (D-74)

M1991 Chuch’e-Po (D-74)
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Turreted SPG on the Chuch’e-Po chassis, derived from the Ch’ŏnma MBT. Carries a 122mm D-74 cannon capable of firing HE and APHE, similar to the 2S1.

BR of 6.0.

Armament: 122mm D-74
Engine: Unknown.
Armour: Thin. No substantial protection. Likely between 7-20mm.


✪ M1975 Tŏkch’ŏn (130mm)

M1975 Tŏkch’ŏn (130mm)
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Turreted SPG on the chassis of the Soviet ATS-59 artillery tractor, armed with a Soviet 130mm SM-4-1. Fires HE, as well as a SAP round with 204mm penetration at 1000m.

BR of 6.3. Foldered with the M1991 Chuch’e-Po (D-74).

Armament: 130mm SM-4-1
Engine: 300hp, 45km/h
Armour: Thin. No substantial protection.


✪ M1989 Chuch’e-Po

M1989 Chuch’e-Po
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Non-turreted SPG on the Chuch’e-Po chassis, derived from the Ch’ŏnma MBT. Carries a huge 170mm cannon. Also more commonly known online as the Koksan.

BR of 6.3.

Armament: 130mm SM-4-1
Engine: 300hp, 45km/h
Armour: Thin. No substantial protection.


✪ M1991 Chuch'e-Po (2018)

M1991 Chuch’e-Po (2018)
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Turreted SPG on the Chuch’e-Po chassis, derived from the Ch’ŏnma MBT. Carries a modified 122mm D-30 cannon capable of firing HE and HEAT-FS. Also has smoke grenades as well as Igla MANPADs.

BR of 6.7. Foldered with the M1989 Chuch’e-Po.

Armament: Modified 122mm D-30.
Engine: Unknown.
Armour: Thin. No substantial protection. Likely between 7-20mm.


Line 4 – ROK Tank Destroyers and SPGs

☯ K55

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License-produced M109A2 with a few minor changes using domestic parts. Would play almost identically to the in-game M109A1, with slightly more ammunition storage.

BR of 6.3.

Armament: 155mm M158
Engine: 450hp, 56km/h
Armour: Thin. ~32mm all around.


☯ K55A1

K55A1

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Modernisation of the K55, featuring many of the features of the K9 SPG. Largely electronics changes, but also features a new semi-autoloader, increasing the rate of fire, as well as having access to better ammunition.

BR of 6.7. Foldered with K55.

Armament: 155mm M158
Engine: 450hp, 56km/h
Armour: Thin. ~32mm all around.


☯ M56

M56 Scorpion

60 vehicles given by the US to South Korea but never actually used in service.

Identical to the one in-game, BR of 6.7.


Line 5 – Mixed SPAA

✪ M1985

M1985
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Turreted SPAA on a slightly modified ZSU-23-4 Shilka chassis, armed with dual 57mm S-68A cannons, as on the ZSU-57-2. Very limited gun depression, however, so greatly reduced anti-tank capabilities.

BR of 6.7.

Armament: 2x 57mm S-68A
Engine: 280hp, 50km/h
Armour: Thin. No substantial protection. Likely between 9-15mm.



Rank V

Line 1 – DPRK Light Tanks and MBTs

✪ BTR-80A

BTR-80A

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Around 32 delivered to North Korea by Russia in the early 2000s, rarely seen but in service.

Identical to the one in-game, BR of 7.3.


✪ T-54 (1951)

T-54 (1951)

Thousands of T-54s imported from the Soviet Union in the 60s, with around 3500 in service today (including Chinese built Type 59s). Predominantly the 1951 model. Some modified to instead use a 14.5mm KPVT instead of a 12.7mm DShK.

Near identical to the one in-game, BR of 8.0.


✪ Type 59

Type 59

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Hundreds of Type 59s imported from China in the 60s, with around 3500 T-54s/Type 59s in service to this day.

Identical to the one in-game, BR of 8.0. Foldered with T-54 (1951).


Line 2 – ROK Light Tanks and MBTs

☯ M47

M47 Patton

Over 500 imported from the USA in the late 50s, and remained in service until 2007. Many had their main 90mm M36 cannon replaced with the 90mm M41 of the M48 Patton when the M48s underwent up-gunning, but this would provide no change to performance in game.

Identical to the one in-game, BR of 7.3.


☯ M48A3K

M48A3K

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M48A3 imported from the US fitted with a laser rangefinder, as well as an upgraded engine and potential for 90mm APFSDS rounds.

BR of 8.0.

Armament: 90mm M41
Engine: 810hp, 48km/h
Armour: 110/76/35 turret; 130/76/51 hull.


Line 3 – DPRK Tank Destroyers and SPGs

✪ M1992 APC

M1992 APC
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Wheeled APC possibly inspired by the Soviet BRDM-1, carrying a single Bulsae-2 ATGM launcher (License-produced 9M111-2 ‘Fagot’) with 460mm penetration and SACLOS guidance.

BR of 7.0.

Armament: 1x Bulsae-2 launcher
Engine: Unknown. Possible ~90km/h.
Armour: Thin. No substantial protection.


✪ M1972 Tŏkch’ŏn (100mm) (LRF)

M1972 Tŏkch’ŏn (100mm) (LRF)
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Non-turreted SPG on the chassis of the Soviet ATS-59 artillery tractor, armed with a Soviet 100mm BS-3 and a laser rangefinder. Can fire all standard 100mm ammunition, but I propose this goes at 7.3 with BR-412/412B/412D APHE rounds, as well as 3BM-8 APDS and 3BK-5 HEAT-FS.

BR of 7.3.

Armament: 100mm BS-3
Engine: 300hp, 45km/h
Armour: Thin. No substantial protection.


✪ Chuch'e 107

Chuch’e 107 155mm SPG
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Turreted SPG with a striking resemblance to the Iranian Ra’ad-2, likely derived from the chassis of either the Ch’ŏnma-215 (and onwards), or the Sŏn’gun MBTs. Carries a modern 155mm cannon itself likely derived from that of the M109’s L/39 cannon. Has a semi-automatic loader and LRF, as well as possible thermal sights.

BR of 8.0.

Armament: 155mm L/52
Engine: Unknown, probably 700-840hp or 1200hp.
Armour: Thin. No substantial protection.


Line 4 – ROK Tank Destroyers and SPGs

☯ KAFV-90

KAFV-90
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Prototype AFV derived from the K200A1 chassis, armed with a Cockerill Mk. IIIM-A1 90mm gun in a C.T.G.90 turret.

BR of 7.0.

Armament: 90mm Cockerill Mk. IIIM-A1
Engine: 350hp, 74km/h
Armour: Thin. Frontal arc protects against 12.7mm bullets.


☯ K9

K9 Thunder

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South Korea’s modern SPG, armed with a 155mm L/52 cannon, and with good mobility. The K9 VIDAR in game is a variant of this.

BR of 7.3.

Armament: CN98 155mm L/52
Engine: 1000hp, 67km/h
Armour: Thin; can withstand 14.5mm AP rounds.


☯ K9A2

K9A2 Thunder

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Newest variant of the K9, currently under development (1 prototype so far). Upgrades include an autoloader, decreasing reload rate to a minimum of 6 seconds, a reduction in crew number (5 → 3), and improved internal electronics.

BR of 7.7.

Armament: CN98 155mm L/52
Engine: 1000hp, 67km/h
Armour: Thin; can withstand 14.5mm AP rounds.


☯ Tarantula 6x6

Tarantula 6x6

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6x6 fire support vehicle developed for Indonesia by Doosan. Entered service in Indonesia. Mounts a Cockerill CSE 90LP turret, with a laser rangefinder and optional NVDs/thermals (I’m unsure if Indonesia chose this). Fires APFSDS rounds, along with HEAT shells.

BR of 7.3.

Armament: 90mm Cockerill Mk. IIIM-A1
Engine: 400hp, 100km/h
Armour: Thin. Protects only against small-arms fire.


Line 5 – Mixed SPAA

☯ M113 (M167)

M113 (M167)

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SPAA on the M113 APC chassis with an M167 Vulcan cannon in an open-top turret. No radar, so slightly worse than the M163/K263.

BR of 7.3.

Armament: M167 20mm
Engine: 280hp, 74km/h
Armour: Thin. Frontal arc protects against 12.7mm bullets.


☯ K263

K263

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SPAA on the K200 APC chassis armed with a KM167A1 20mm rotary gun; effectively a domestically produced M163.

BR of 7.7.

Armament: KM167A1 20mm
Engine: 280hp, 74km/h
Armour: Thin. Frontal arc protects against 12.7mm bullets.



Rank VI

Line 1 – DPRK Light Tanks and MBTs

✪ Ch’ŏnma

Ch’ŏnma
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License-produced T-62, and the basis for many upgraded variants. Some vehicles equipped with a 14.5mm KPVT, but otherwise identical to the T-62.

BR of 8.7.

Armament: 115mm U-5TS
Engine: 580hp, 51km/h
Armour: 200/160/65 turret; 100/80/45 hull


✪ Ch’ŏnma (1992)

Ch’ŏnma (1992)
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Ch’ŏnma with a domestically-produced laser rangefinder. No other differences.

BR of 8.7. Foldered with Ch’ŏnma.

Armament: 115mm U-5TS
Engine: 580hp, 51km/h
Armour: 200/160/65 turret; 100/80/45 hull


✪ Ch’ŏnma-98

Ch’ŏnma-98

Ch’ŏnma with a new welded turret with better armour protection and presumably internal composites. Has a LRF and potentially an upgraded FCS with thermal sights. Also has an upgraded engine over the original Ch’ŏnma.

BR of 9.0.

Armament: 115mm U-5TS
Engine: 750hp, 51km/h
Armour: Unknown turret, better than T-62 turret; 100/80/45 hull


✪ Ch’ŏnma-214

Ch’ŏnma-214
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Ch’ŏnma-98 with appliqué armour over the turret, similar to Soviet ‘BDD’ armour, as well as rubber flaps similar to those of the T-80U along the lower plate and sides.

BR of 9.0. Foldered with Ch’ŏnma-98.

Armament: 115mm U-5TS
Engine: 750hp, 51km/h
Armour: Unknown turret, better than T-62 turret; 100/80/45 hull


✪ Ch’ŏnma-216 (2012)

Ch’ŏnma-216 (2012)
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Comprehensive upgrade of the Ch’ŏnma series with an elongated hull and extra roadwheels, a new turret based on the better welded one with appliqué armour.

BR of 9.3.

Armament: 115mm U-5TS
Engine: 750hp, 51km/h
Armour: ~500-600mm effective turret armour + appliqué; 100/80/45 hull + composite.


✪ Ch’ŏnma-216 (2014)

Ch’ŏnma-216 (2014)
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Ch’ŏnma-216 with a new weapons package, consisting of turret-mounted Igla MANPADs and Bulsae-2/3 ATGM launchers (~460mm SACLOS).

BR of 9.7. Foldered with Ch’ŏnma-216 (2012) and (2014).

Armament: 115mm U-5TS
Engine: 750hp, 51km/h
Armour: ~500-600mm effective turret armour + appliqué; 100/80/45 hull + composite.


✪ Ch’ŏnma-216 (2018)

Ch’ŏnma-216 (2018)
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Ch’ŏnma-216 with a new weapons package, consisting of turret-mounted Igla MANPADs, Bulsae-2/3 ATGM launchers (~460mm SACLOS) and 30mm grenade launchers. Additional features include Laser Warning Receivers and ERA on the UFP, likely similar in protection to Kontakt-1 (or better).

BR of 9.7. Foldered with Ch’ŏnma-216 (2012) and (2014).

Armament: 115mm U-5TS
Engine: 750hp, 51km/h
Armour: ~500-600mm effective turret armour + appliqué; 100/80/45 hull + composite + ERA.


Line 2 – ROK Light Tanks and MBTs

☯ M48A5K1

M48A5K1

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M48A3 upgraded with an unstabilised 105mm KM68A1. Has side skirts and the standard M48 cupola.

BR of 8.3.

Armament: KM68A1 105mm
Engine: 810hp, 48km/h
Armour: 110/76/35 turret; 130/76/51 hull.


☯ M48A5KW

M48A5KW

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M48A3 upgraded with an unstabilised 105mm KM68A1. The KW variant specifically removes the side skirts, and replaces the cupola with an Israeli Urdan cupola (lower-profile).

BR of 8.3.

Armament: KM68A1 105mm
Engine: 810hp, 48km/h
Armour: 110/76/35 turret; 130/76/51 hull.


☯ M48A5K2

M48A5K2

M48A3 upgraded with an unstabilised 105mm KM68A1. The K2 variant specifically replaces the cupola with an Israeli Urdan cupola (lower-profile). Should be given better APFSDS to justify 0.3 BR increase.

BR of 8.7.

Armament: KM68A1 105mm
Engine: 810hp, 48km/h
Armour: 110/76/35 turret; 130/76/51 hull.


Line 3 – DPRK Tank Destroyers and SPGs

✪ 8x8 122mm APC

8x8 122mm APC
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Wheeled anti-tank APC derived from the BTR-60, BTR-80 and PT-76s. Carries an unmanned turret with a Soviet 122mm D-30 firing HEAT-FS and an autoloader. Thermal gunner sights.

BR of 8.3.

Armament: 122mm D-30
Engine: 260hp, ~90km/h
Armour: Thin, ~9mm + additional armour plates all around. No substantial protection.


✪ 8x8 ATGM APC

8x8 ATGM APC
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Wheeled anti-tank APC derived from the BTR-60, BTR-80 and PT-76s. Carries a turret with 5x Bulsae-5 ATGMs, which are believed to be 9M133 Kornet copies – 1200mm penetration with a tandem HEAT warhead, as on the BMP-2M. Possible thermal sights.

BR of 9.7.

Armament: 5x Bulsae-5 launchers
Engine: 260hp, ~90km/h
Armour: Thin, ~9mm + additional armour plates all around. No substantial protection.


Line 4 – ROK Tank Destroyers and SPGs

☯ K200 (25mm)

K200 (25mm)
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Prototype AFV derived from the K200 chassis, armed with a KBA 25mm in a fully-stabilised two-man turret. (same gun as on the SIDAM 25)

BR of 8.3.

Armament: Oerlikon KBA 25mm
Engine: 280hp, 70km/h
Armour: Thin. Frontal arc protects against 12.7mm bullets.


☯ K200 (TOW)

K200 (TOW)

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Prototype ATGM carrier on the K200 IFV hull. Carries a single TOW launcher, and would play very similarly to the M113A1 (TOW) in-game, with access to standard TOW and I-TOW ATGMs.

BR of 8.3. Foldered with K200 (25mm)

Armament: 1x TOW launcher
Engine: 91hp, 115km/h
Armour: Very thin/non-existent.


☯ K200 (METIS-M)

K200 (METIS-M)

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K200 AFV with Russian METIS-M ATGM launcher. These have 800mm of penetration and a tandem HEAT warhead.

BR of 9.0.

Armament: 1x METIS-M ATGM launcher
Engine: 280hp, 74km/h
Armour: Thin. Frontal arc protects against 12.7mm bullets.


☯ K21

K21
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South Korea’s primary IFV to replace the K200, armed with a 40mm cannon capable of firing high-penetration APFSDS, as well as a stabiliser and advanced FCS (including thermal sights).

BR of 9.7.

Armament: K40 40mm
Engine: 750hp, 70km/h
Armour: Thin, protection against 14.5mm AP rounds all around, and 30mm APDS frontally.


Line 5 – Mixed SPAA

✪ M1989

M1989
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Turreted SPAA on a slightly modified ZSU-23-4 Shilka chassis, armed with dual 30mm AK-230 cannons and an MR-104 radar.

BR of 8.3.

Armament: 2x 30mm AK-230
Engine: 280hp, 50km/h
Armour: Thin. No substantial protection. Likely between 9-15mm.


☯ K30W Cheonho

K30W Cheonho

SPAA on an 8x8 KW2 chassis with fully stabilised 30mm cannons and electro-optical sensors (no radar).

BR of 8.3. Foldered with M1989.

Armament: 2x KKCB 30mm
Engine: 380hp, 100km/h
Armour: Unknown thickness, but roughly STANAG 4569 Level II, protecting against 7.62mm bullets.


☯ K30 Biho

K30 Biho

SPAA based on the K200 APC, armed with dual 30mm cannons. The vehicle also has a radar, unlike the Rotem KW2 SPAA.

BR of 8.7.

Armament: 2x KKCB 30mm
Engine: 520hp, 65km/h
Armour: Thin. Frontal arc protects against 12.7mm bullets.


✪ M1992 (9K38)

M1992 (9K38)
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Prototype SPAA on the M1992 wheeled APC, itself possibly inspired by the Soviet BRDM-1, carrying a quad Igla MANPADs launcher.

BR of 9.0.

Armament: 4x Igla launchers.
Engine: Unknown. Possible ~90km/h.
Armour: Thin. No substantial protection.



Rank VII

Line 1 – DPRK Light Tanks and MBTs

✪ Sŏn’gun (2010)

Sŏn’gun (2010)
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New tank development developed in parallel with the later Ch’ŏnma variants. The vehicle features a redesigned hull and elongated hull, and most strikingly, a new cast turret housing a 125mm 2A46 cannon. The UFP has internal composite armour, as well as ERA. The vehicle also has an Igla MANPAD to the side of the turret.

BR of 10.0.

Armament: 125mm 2A46
Engine: 1200hp, 70km/h
Armour: Unknown, turret front claimed up to 900mm.


✪ Sŏn’gun (2017)

Sŏn’gun (2017)
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Sŏn’gun upgraded with double-stacked ERA on the turret, supposedly providing 500mm of protection. Igla MANPAD moved to the rear of the turret.

BR of 10.3. Foldered with the Sŏn’gun (2010).

Armament: 125mm 2A46
Engine: 1200hp, 70km/h
Armour: Unknown, turret front claimed up to 900mm (+500mm ERA).


✪ Sŏn’gun (2018)

Sŏn’gun (2018)
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Sŏn’gun upgraded with a dual ATGM launcher, likely Bulsae-3, as well as a dual 30mm grenade launcher, and dual Igla MANPADs.

BR of 10.3. Foldered with the Sŏn’gun (2010) and Sŏn’gun (2017).

Armament: 125mm 2A46
Engine: 1200hp, 70km/h
Armour: Unknown, turret front claimed up to 900mm (+500mm ERA).


✪ M2020 (P)

M2020 (P)
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Prototype of North Korea’s most secretive MBT – a radically new design with a 125mm in a conventional turret resembling that of the M1 Abrams or Zulfiqar, a dual ATGM launcher (Bulsae-5, a Kornet copy – 1200mm penetration), and a hard-kill active protection system, similar to the T-14 Armata’s Afghanit.

BR of 11.0.

Armament: 125mm 2A46 derivative
Engine: 1200hp, ~70km/h
Armour: Unknown composite array.


Line 2 – ROK Light Tanks and MBTs

☯ XK1

XK1

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The prototypes of the K1, as part of the ROKIT (Republic of Korea Indigenous Tank) program. Development was aided by the US, so many similarities to the XM-1 and M1. Has a 105mm cannon in a turret resembling that of the M1, and composite internal armour. Should be given slightly worse ammunition than the K1 to justify 0.3 lower BR.

BR of 10.0.

Armament: KM68A1 105mm
Engine: 1200hp, 65km/h.
Armour: Classified. Around 400-500mm KE protection frontally.


☯ K1

K1

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South Korea’s first production indigenous tank. Very similar in capabilities to the M1 Abrams – the vehicle has a 105mm gun, composite armour (SAP/Chobham) of the same materials as the M1, and an advanced FCS with a laser rangefinder and some later vehicles with thermal sights. The K1 also has a commander sight with hunter-killer capabilities, something not present on the M1 until the M1A2.

BR of 10.3. Foldered with XK1.

Armament: KM68A1 105mm
Engine: 1200hp, 65km/h.
Armour: Classified. Around 400-500mm KE protection frontally.


☯ K1E1

K1E1

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Upgrade of the K1 featuring primarily improved electronic systems, such as battlefield networking systems. Would play identically to the K1 if not given better ammunition (a possibility).

BR of 10.3. Foldered with K1 and XK1.

Armament: KM68A1 105mm
Engine: 1200hp, 65km/h.
Armour: Classified. Around 400-500mm KE protection frontally.


☯ K1A1 (P)

K1A1 (P)

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Prototype of the K1A1, featuring many of the same upgrades. Only difference between the K1A1 and the K1A1 (P) is that the (P) retains the commander sight of the standard K1. Should be given worse APFSDS rounds to justify a lower BR of 10.7.

BR of 10.7.

Armament: KM256 120mm L/44
Engine: 1200hp, 60km/h
Armour: Classified. Roughly 600mm KE protection frontally.


☯ K1E2 (P)

K1E2 (P)

Upgrade of the K1E1 currently in development (hence only 1 prototype so far, remains to be seen how the production variant will differ from this prototype) featuring a new gunner’s sight with better thermals, an APU, and for in-game reasons, better APFSDS rounds (such as K274N). Would be a similar idea to the IPM1 in the US tree, just without better armour.

BR of 11.0.

Armament: KM68A1 105mm
Engine: 1200hp, 65km/h.
Armour: Classified. Around 400-500mm KE protection frontally.


☯ K1A1

K1A1

Upgrade of the K1 featuring a license-built Rheinmetall 120mm cannon, an improved commander and gunners sight, and improved armour. South Korea has multiple indigenous high-penetration APFSDS rounds for their 120mm cannon. The armour, called Korean Special Armour Plate (KSAP) improves the KE protection by around 100-200mm.

BR of 11.0.

Armament: KM256 120mm L/44
Engine: 1200hp, 60km/h
Armour: Classified. Roughly 600mm KE protection frontally.


☯ K1A2

K1A2

Upgrade of the K1A1 with digital battlefield management systems, improved cameras, and the soft-kill APS present on the K2.

BR of 11.0. Foldered with the K1A1.

Armament: KM256 120mm L/44
Engine: 1200hp, 60km/h
Armour: Classified. Roughly 600mm KE protection frontally.


Line 3 – DPRK Tank Destroyers and SPGs
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Line 4 – ROK Tank Destroyers and SPGs

☯ K21 (CT-CV 105HP)

K21 (CT-CV 105HP)
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K21 IFV chassis armed with a Cockerill CT-CV 105HP turret, complete with an autoloader, LRF and generation 2 gunner thermals.

BR of 10.0.

Armament: Cockerill 105mm L/50
Engine: 750hp, 70km/h
Armour: Thin, protection against 14.5mm AP rounds all around, and 30mm APDS frontally.


☯ K-153C1

K-153C1

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4-wheel Kia Light Tactical Vehicle armed with a dual AT-1K Raybolt F&F ATGM launcher, first seen in 2017 and currently in service. Carries 4 extra ATGMs in the rear, for a total of 6.

BR of 10.0. Foldered with K21 (CT-CV 105HP).

Armament: 2x AT-1K Raybolt ATGM launcher
Engine: 225hp, 125km/h
Armour: Thin, only protecting against 5.45mm bullets.


☯ Black Fox (RCWS-30)

Black Fox (RCWS-30)

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Experimental light tank with the Israeli RCWS-30 unmanned turret on the K808 Black Fox chassis. Has a stabilised 30mm with APFSDS rounds, a LRF and 3rd gen thermals, as well as 2x SPIKE-LR launchers.

BR of 10.3.

Armament: 1x Bushmaster Mk. 44 30mm
Engine: 380hp, 100km/h
Armour: Unknown thickness, but roughly STANAG 4569 Level II, protecting against 7.62mm bullets.


☯ N-WAV

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Prototype 8x8 IFV currently in development, featuring an unmanned turret with a Bushmaster 30mm cannon and a launcher for 2x ATGMs, likely the AT-1K Raybolt. The vehicle has an advanced FCS, including thermal sights, as well as a hard-kill APS (KAPS).

BR of 10.3. Foldered with the Black Fox (RCWS-30)

Armament: Bushmaster Mk. II 30mm, 2x AT-1K Raybolt ATGM launchers
Engine: 700hp, Unknown top speed.
Armour: Classified.


☯ K21 AT-1K

K21 AT-1K
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South Korea’s primary IFV to replace the K200, armed with a 40mm cannon capable of firing high-penetration APFSDS, as well as a stabiliser and advanced FCS (including thermal sights). This variant has 2x AT-1K Raybolt ATGM launchers on the left-side of the turret, which are F&F ATGMs with a tandem warhead.

BR of 10.7.

Armament: K40 40mm, 2x AT-1K ATGM Launchers
Engine: 750hp, 70km/h
Armour: Thin, protection against 14.5mm AP rounds all around, and 30mm APDS frontally.


☯ K21 (XC-8-105)

K21 (XC-8-105)

K21 IFV chassis armed with a Cockerill XC-8 105mm turret, complete with an autoloader, LRF and generation 3 commander and gunner thermals. This is the same turret as the CV 90105 in game, and would perform very similarly, but with better APFSDS rounds.

BR of 10.7. Foldered with K21 AT-1K.

Armament: Cockerill 105mm L/50
Engine: 750hp, 70km/h
Armour: Thin, protection against 14.5mm AP rounds all around, and 30mm APDS frontally.


☯ K21 (XC-8-120)

K21 (XC-8-120)

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K21 IFV chassis armed with a Cockerill XC-8 120mm turret, complete with an autoloader, LRF and generation 3 commander and gunner thermals.

BR of 11.0.

Armament: Cockerill 120mm
Engine: 750hp, 70km/h
Armour: Thin, protection against 14.5mm AP rounds all around, and 30mm APDS frontally.


Line 5 – Mixed SPAA

✪ Pŏn’gae-3

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Upgrade of the Soviet Strela-10 with 2x launchers of 4x HT-16PGJ missiles instead of the standard 4x 9M37. The HT-16PGJ is a North Korean upgrade of the Igla-1.

BR of 10.0.

Armament: 8x HT-16PGJ missile
Engine: 240hp, 62km/h
Armour: Thin, between 7-14mm


☯ K30 Biho-Hybrid

K30 Biho-Hybrid

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SPAA based on the K200 APC, armed with dual 30mm cannons. The vehicle also has a radar, unlike the Rotem KW2 SPAA. Hybrid version first produced in 2018 mounts 2x launchers for 2x Shingung (KP-SAM Chiron) missiles each, which are supposedly superior to the American FIM-92 Stinger and French Mistral.

BR of 10.0. Foldered with Pŏn’gae-3.

Armament: 2x KKCB 30mm, 4x Shingung Missiles
Engine: 520hp, 65km/h
Armour: Thin. Frontal arc protects against 12.7mm bullets.


☯ K31 Cheonma

K31 Cheonma
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Missile SPAA on the chassis of the K200A1 KIFV. Armed with 2x launchers of 4 Cheonma (K-SAM) missiles, themselves derived from the French Crotale NG.

BR of 11.0.

Armament: Crotale-NG launcher firing Cheonma K-SAM missiles.
Engine: 520hp, 60km/h
Armour: Thin, protects against 7.62mm rounds all around.



Rank VIII

Line 1 – DPRK Light Tanks and MBTs

✪ M2020

M2020

Production variant of the M2020, adding ERA to the front and sides of the turret and to the hull sides. Should be given a slightly better round to be higher than the M2020 (P).

BR of 11.3.

Armament: 125mm 2A46 derivative
Engine: 1200hp, ~70km/h
Armour: Unknown composite array + ERA on the turret front and sides, and the hull sides.


Line 2 – ROK Light Tanks and MBTs

☯ K2

K2 Black Panther
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South Korea’s most advanced MBT, developed from the K1. The vehicle features a 120mm L/55 cannon, an advanced FCS with thermal sights, a soft-kill active-protection system, and advanced composite armour.

BR of 11.7.

Armament: CN08 120mm L/55
Engine: 1500hp, 70km/h
Armour: Classified. Based on the K1A1/K1A2’s KSAP but likely improved. Claimed to protect against 120mm L/55 APFSDS.


☯ XK2 (KAPS)

XK2 (KAPS)
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Prototype of the K2, equipped with the hard-kill Korean Active Protection System (KAPS).

BR of 11.7. Foldered with the K2.

Armament: CN08 120mm L/55
Engine: 1500hp, 70km/h
Armour: Classified. Based on the K1A1/K1A2’s KSAP but likely improved. Claimed to protect against 120mm L/55 APFSDS.


☯ K2NO

K2NO
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Proposed MBT for Norway, but the bid failed in favour of the Leopard 2A8. Differences from the K2 consist of the Trophy hard-kill APS, add-on composite armour, a 12.7mm CROWS, and ERA, as well as various electrical upgrades.

BR of 11.7.

Armament: CN08 120mm L/55
Engine: 1500hp, 70km/h
Armour: Classified. Based on the K1A1/K1A2’s KSAP but likely improved. Claimed to protect against 120mm L/55 APFSDS. Additional composite + ERA.


Line 3 – DPRK Tank Destroyers and SPGs

✪ M2018

M2018 NLOS ATGM Carrier
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Wheeled 6x6 anti-tank APC derived from the BTR-60, BTR-80 and PT-76s. Carries a turret with 8x Bulsae-4 ATGMs, which are NLOS ATGMs likely derived from the Chinese HJ-10, or possibly Israeli SPIKE NLOS, with around 750mm penetration. Possible thermal sights.

BR of 11.3.

Armament: 8x Bulsae-4 launchers
Engine: 260hp, ~90km/h
Armour: Thin, ~9mm + additional armour plates all around. No substantial protection.


Line 4 – ROK Tank Destroyers and SPGs

☯ KW2 Jupiter

KW2 Jupiter
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Fire support vehicle based on the Rotem KW2 8x8 chassis. Has an unmanned turret with an autoloaded 120mm cannon, complete with thermal imagers and a laser rangefinder, and a soft-kill APS.

BR of 11.3.

Armament: 120mm
Engine: 380hp, 100km/h
Armour: Unknown thickness, but roughly STANAG 4569 Level II, protecting against 7.62mm bullets.


☯ Plasan Sandcat

Plasan Sandcat

SPIKE NLOS carrier on the Israeli Plasan Sandcat armoured vehicle chassis. Fires Spike NLOS Mk. 5 specifically, which have a duel effect warhead, wings that extend after launch, and an integrated thermal imager.

BR of 11.3.

Armament: 4x SPIKE NLOS Launchers
Engine: 450hp, 110km/h
Armour: Variable specifications, but thin.


Line 5 – Mixed SPAA

✪ M2020 Short Range SAM

M2020 Short Range SAM

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Relatively new SAM system unveiled in 2020 with very little information, other than that it appears to be a development inspired by the Russian Tor SAM system, and specifically, the Chinese HQ-17A variant. Unknown specifications otherwise. Presumably has similar performance characterstics as the Tor-M1 and other related systems.

BR of 11.7.

Armament: Unknown. Missile similar to Tor.
Engine: Unknown.
Armour: Unknown.



Premium and Event Vehicles

Rank 3

✪ M1991 Tŏkch’ŏn (152mm)

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Prototype turreted SPG on the chassis of the Soviet ATS-59 artillery tractor, armed with a Soviet 152mm D-20.

BR of 5.3.

Armament: 152mm D-20
Engine: 300hp, 45km/h
Armour: Thin. No substantial protection.


Rank 4

✪ Sinhŭng (1985)

Sinhŭng (1985)
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Amphibious light tank based on an extended and modified chassis of the North Korean 323 APC, with a turret similar to that of the PT-76 mounting an elongated 85mm Type 62 cannon (same as on the Chinese Type 62/63). The first model, the 1985 one, has a 9M14 Malyutka ATGM above the barrel.

BR of 7.0.

Armament: 85mm Type 62-85-TC, 1x 9M14 ATGM
Engine: 320hp, 65km/h
Armour: Thin, roughly 14-15mm all around.


✪ 323 MLRS (BM-11)

323 MLRS (BM-11)
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MLRS on the chassis of the 323 APC. Fires 122mm rockets, with around 6.4kg of explosives.

BR of 7.0.

Armament: BM-11 122mm rocket launcher
Engine: 320hp, ~65km/h
Armour: Thin, roughly 14mm all around.


Rank 5

☯ KW1 FSV

KW1 FSV

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Prototype 6x6 fire support vehicle armed with a 90mm cannon in the Cockerill CM-90 turret, capable of firing APFSDS, and with a laser rangefinder.

BR of 7.7.

Armament: 90mm Cockerill Mk. IIIM-A1
Engine: 380hp, 100km/h
Armour: Thin. Protects only against small-arms fire.


☯ M48A1

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Unmodified M48A1 imported from the US, identical to the one in-game.

BR of 7.7.

Armament: 90mm M41
Engine: 810hp, 48km/h
Armour: 110/76/35 hull; 130/76/51 turret.


Rank 6

✪ T-55 (Slat Armour)

T-55 (Slat Armour)
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T-55 with additional slat armour. All T-54s and T-55s in North Korean service appear to have been given the mounting points for this armour, but the actual armour remains rarely seen. Otherwise identical to T-55/T-55A in game.

BR of 8.3.

Armament: 100mm D-10T2S
Engine: 580hp, 51km/h
Armour: 100/80 + slat armour/20 hull; 200/160 + slat armour/110 turret


✪ Ch’ŏnma (1986)

Ch’ŏnma (1986)
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Ch’ŏnma with extended turret bustle, presumably for increased ammunition space.

BR of 8.7.

Armament: 115mm U-5TS
Engine: 580hp, 51km/h
Armour: 200/160/65 turret; 100/80/45 hull


☯ Tiran 6

Tiran 6

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Tiran-6 (Israeli designation for captured T-62s) sold to South Korea for training exercises. No differences to the standard T-62.

BR of 8.7.

Armament: 115mm U-5TS
Engine: 580hp, 51km/h
Armour: 200/160/65 turret; 100/80/45 hull


☯ BMP-3

BMP-3

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BMP-3 given to South Korea by Russia for debt-payment. Identical to the BMP-3 in game.

BR of 9.0.

Armament: 30mm 2A72, 100mm 2A70
Engine: 500hp, 71km/h
Armour: 60/43/13 hull; 50/43/43 turret


✪ Ch’ŏnma-92

Ch’ŏnma-92
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Ch’ŏnma with new welded turret and LRF, similar to the later Ch’ŏnma-98. Some models seen with ERA.

BR of 9.0.

Armament: 115mm U-5TS
Engine: 750hp, 51km/h
Armour: Unknown turret, better than T-62 turret; 100/80/45 hull


✪ T-72 Ural

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Sole T-72 imported to North Korea, believed to be via Iran. Crucial in helping North Korea produce their later MBT designs, for the composite armour as well as the design of the 2A46 125mm cannon. Slightly inferior to the T-72M1 in terms of characteristics.

BR of 9.0.

Armament: 125mm 2A46
Engine: 780hp, 60km/h
Armour: 410mm turret, ~450mm UFP


✪ Ch’ŏnma-215

Ch’ŏnma-215
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Set of prototypes that would lead into the more refined Ch’ŏnma-216. Has an elongated hull and extra roadwheels, a new turret based on the welded one, appliqué armour. It differs from the -216 in the design of the engine deck and the position of the smoke grenade launchers.

BR of 9.3.

Armament: 115mm U-5TS
Engine: 750hp, 51km/h
Armour: ~500-600mm effective turret armour + appliqué; 100/80/45 hull + composite.


Rank 7

✪ Sŏn’gun ‘915’

Sŏn’gun ‘915
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One-off version of the Sŏn’gun with double-stacked turret ERA, probably a 30mm grenade launcher, and a dual ATGM launcher (likely Bulsae-2). Appears to be a prototype for the later Sŏn’gun (2017) and (2018) weapons packages.

BR of 10.3.

Armament: 125mm 2A46
Engine: 1200hp, 70km/h
Armour: Unknown, turret front claimed up to 900mm (+500mm ERA).


☯ AS21 Redback

AS21 Redback

Prototype IFV designed for Australia, on the basis of the K21 IFV. Selected for production in 2023. The vehicle has a Bushmaster Mk. II 30mm cannon, 2x SPIKE LR-2 ATGMs, an RCWS, the hard-kill Iron Fist APS, and Israeli Plasan armour.

BR of 10.7.

Armament: Bushmaster Mk. II 30mm, 2x SPIKE-LR2
Engine: 1000hp, 65km/h
Armour: Classified. Multiple options.


☯ T-80U

T-80U

T-80U given to South Korea by Russia for debt-payment. Compared to the standard T-80U, lacks thermal sights and 3BM46.

BR of 11.0. Squadron vehicle.

Armament: 125mm 2A46M-1
Engine: 1250hp, 70km/h
Armour: Composite + Kontakt-5 ERA.


Rank 8
N/A


Conclusion

A United Korea tree allows for many unique vehicles to be added to the game, with minimal copy-paste, and enabling the full potential for the Korean peninsula. The tree has solid lineups for most prominent BRs, including a full top-tier (11.3-11.7) lineup with 5x MBTs, an ATGM carrier, light tank, and SAM system.

Both countries are expanding their militaries and moving towards more advanced designs, and this gives the tree future potential as well.

I hope you support this! If anyone has any suggestions, or corrections to the post, please let me know! :)


Sources

Not exhaustive, many of the sources are listed in vehicles respective suggestion threads, which I have linked where applicable.

KAFV Brochures


https://bemil.chosun.com/nbrd/bbs/view.html?b_bbs_id=10044&num=210981&pn=0&compn=2
KIFV-KAFV
K806/808 장갑차 - 나무위키
M48A3K / A5K - 나무위키
9K115-2 Metis-M - Wikipedia
https://bemil.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2020/03/16/2020031602486.html?dcinside
K30 Biho - Wikipedia
In Development: K-153C | Armored Warfare - Official Website
DX Korea 2018: RoKA unveils 4×4 K-153C ATGM carrier | Jane's 360
ADEX 2023 - Hyundai Rotem unveils its N-WAV 8x8 IFV prototype - EDR Magazine
СТАЛЬ И ОГОНЬ: СОВРЕМЕННЫЕ И ПЕРСПЕКТИВНЫЕ ТАНКИ: XK1 prototypes (PV-1 and PV-2) tests
조선인민군 신형 저고도 대공체계 - 나무위키
K1 88-Tank - Wikipedia
K1E1 Tank - Fighting-Vehicles.com
K1A1 Tank - Fighting-Vehicles.com
K1A2 Tank - Fighting-Vehicles.com
K2 Black Panther - Wikipedia
https://www.army-technology.com/projects/as21-redback-infantry-fighting-vehicle/?cf-view
https://bemil.chosun.com/nbrd/bbs/view.html?b_bbs_id=10044&branch=&pn=1&num=227183&pan
km422 tow missile launcher carrier│Kia Motors Corporation’s military vehicle website
km424 106mm recoilless rifle carrier│Kia Motors Corporation’s military vehicle website
Overview — 105-mm K105A1 — Self-Propelled Guns/Howitzers — Artillery/Guns — Weapons — Military Periscope

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Absolute YES! +1 The only way to add the Korea’s.

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Big +1!

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I love it! I personally might move some of the premiums to the main tree, but that’s just because I wanna play them! I also love how if there is a T-80, it becomes the top-tier squadron vehicle. It’s tradition now, and I hope that continues lol. +1 from me!

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Thank you!

I originally had the Ch’ŏnma-92 and Ch’ŏnma-215 in the tree, but I felt it may have been a bit too cluttered, even if they were all foldered, but I know the feeling of just wanting to play everything, lol.

And yeah, I saw the T-80U and knew it had to be the squadron vehicle lmao ;)

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Dont know If Im blind but a K-200 with a Cockerill Mk-3MA1 90mm

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Already there ;)

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Also what seems to be that K21 with some ERA…

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I am curious about the 40mm as the design looks quite different from the standard K21…
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It could be the angle, but it seems like the end of the barrel is missing. I’ll look into it, the ERA could easily be a separate modification.

Nah see the end of the barrel between both versions are different, the muzzle on the standard seems to remind me of the bofors 40mm while the one above seems seperate…

oh wow… SK is or has made a 40mm CTA…
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Different barrel tho so it cant be the one above…

After some basic googling, it seems to be a prototype K21 PIP with ERA and a soft-kill APS from around 2005. Here’s another image:
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Although, I have to say the ERA looks a little suspicious, like it may be some sort of photoshop to show the proposed design.

Anything about the barrel, as from what ive seen some people think the 40mm on the standard k21 is a licenced copy of the bofors… but… idk

Tho from this image it legit just might be a different muzzle break lol… or without the bofors style one as earlier down the barrel it seems it has a similar design to the one above… might just remove the cone…

I think it might just be removeable. Look at this picture, you can see the muzzlebrake on the floor in front of the vehicle.
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I assume that’s the same for the image of the PIP.

Namuwiki documents usually do not have sources and contain many errors. Wikipedia has at least an obligation to indicate the source, but Namuwiki does not have that, so it cannot be used as a source.

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I used the best ones I could find, they typically summarise information pretty well and I’ve seen sources for the important stuff. I only needed basic information anyway, which is rarely incorrect (engine power, top speed, etc.)

If/when I make suggestions on some of these vehicles, the sources used will be much better.

In Korea, if you use Namu Wiki as a source for an assignment, you will receive a deduction in points, and the social perception of Namu Wiki is very bad. Therefore, even if it was used to obtain simple information, it does not seem a good idea to list it in the source. United Korea Aviation TT, which was posted on and off the old forum, also received heavy criticism for using Namu Wiki as a source.

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