I am interested to see how Gaijin tackles the SAM issue with SEA. While there are capable sams, very few of them operate as single vehicle systems and thus would be radarless in game. As far as I am aware, the most powerful SAMs with radars in the region are Myanmar’s 2K22M Tunguska, followed by Laos’ Yitian ADS, Vietnam’s Modernized Shilka and in last place, Singapore’s UMI; none of which are really top tier worthy.
2K22M Tunguska - Myanmar - Likely ~10.3
2K22M / 2S6M Tunguska, equivalent to the 2S6 found in game without the 2S6M1 mod (no thermals or upgraded missiles).
Yitian ADS - Laos - Likely ~10.3
Yitian Air Defense System, armed with TY-90 & 12.7mm for self defense. Suggestion here.
ZSU-23-4M - Vietnam - Likely ~9.3
ZSU-23-4M, Shilka upgrade featuring Iglas & radar replaced with IR unit akin to Polish “Biala” upgrade. (Technically not a radar spaa anymore but I’m still putting it here, especially considering the lower BR).
M113A2 Ultra Mechanize Igla - Singapore - Likely ~9.0
M113A2 UMI, an M113 chassis featuring a search radar & Igla + FN Mag (7.62mm), as suggested by the name. Arguably one of the worst SAMs, inferior to shilka upgrades with igla due to gun. Suggestion here.
There are quite a few platforms without radar that are still potent such as the SPYDER SR system, URO VAMTAC RapidRanger & Singapore’s V-200 RBS-70, however, lacking a search mechanic vs advanced A2G systems such as the Su-25SM3 or F-16C can spell death by simple lack of awareness.
SPYDER SR - Singapore - Likely ~11.7"
SPYDER SR, an Israeli system similar to Type 81 (C) but with superior range; capable of firing Derby / Python 5 & operating independently from radar systems. Equipped with Toplite EOS, giving it superior optics to the Type 81 (C).
URO Vamtac RR - Indonesia - Likely ~10.3""
URO Vamtac RAPIDRanger, essentially a lightly armored car equipped with Starstreaks + a thermal FCS. Though both Malaysia also operates the system, Indonesia uniquely possesses LMM/Martlet which can be fired interchangeably with Starstreak from the system.
V-200 RBS-70 - Singapore- Likely ~10.0"
V-200 RBS-70, A Cadillac Gage Commando V-200 armed with RBS-70 + 2x FN Mag (7.62mm). Multiple sources indicate the acquisition of BOLIDE/RBS-70NG, thus putting the platform somewhere between the 9.7 Lvrbv 701apc & Radar equipped 10.3 ASRAD-R.
(There are aa few additional systems with Starstreak or Starburst hailing from Malaysia/Indonesia, I cannot be bothered.)
Hell, Thailand has this cursed thing.
(RBS-70 mounted on the roof of a TR Transformer II. I do not know which variant of RBS-70 Thailand has in inventory- though the launcher FCU appears to be a legacy unit.)
To address the special cases quickly:
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Thai ADATS is static & lacks an individual radar. Even if it was implemented as carried on a transporter, it would still lack search capabilities & would be even more of a TD than current variants.
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There currently isn’t sufficient evidence to support Thai Roland M3S or HVDS/ADAMs systems.
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Myanmar has ordered Pantsir, but there are zero indications of their arrival and due to circumstances surrounding global events they may never arrive.
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Myanmar does not & has never operated Tor systems of any kind- the source of the rumors is a series of articles which speculated they may have acquired Tor based on pictures of a transporter chassis. Said chassis was actually for the ‘Kvadrat-M’ (a Belarussian Kub upgrade), which itself is not eligible for the game.
Blogger Speculating → Larger Blog / Article Speculating → Article Correctly Identifying
The Rumor has annoyingly persisted due to the older speculations being arguably easier to find than the later correct identification of the system as a boring Kub upgrade.
Regardless, if Japan is to receive ASEAN support, there isn’t much in terms of SAMs that would surpass their domestic options in terms of capabilities and of those with radars, most come from nations less likely to be integrated in a subtree with Japan (I certainly haven’t seen many Laos or Myanmar for Japan posts).
Will Gaijin add more complex SAM systems? Will Gaijin add something with little evidence such as the Roland M3s? Or will Japanese player be forced to scan the skies with their Mk.1 Eyeball.
