Wishlist for Germany (WIP)

Vehicles:

Flakpanzer 341 "Koelian"

Gaijin please return this to the tech tree!!!
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Geschützwagen Tiger

Geschützwagen Tiger
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Hummel

15 cm S.F.H. 18 L/30 (Sf.) auf Geschützwagen G.W. III/IV Hummel

Panzer II Ausf L ‘Luchs’

Luchs (tank) - Wikipedia
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Panther II

Gaijin give back panther II idc if you made it wrong the first time that’s ur fault!!!

Stug IV

Aircraft:

Ar 240

Ar 440

Arado Ar 440 A
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Baade 150

Baade 150

Fw 190G series
Hs 132

Hs 132
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He 280

He 280
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Junkers 287

Junkers Ju 287
Ju 287
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Junkers EF 126

Junkers EF 126

Me-262 HG-1

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Helicopters:

Fa 223 Drache

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Fleet:

Admiral Graf Spee (1941 - 1944)

Admiral Scheer (1934)



KMS Bismarck


KMS Fuhrer

KMS Tirpitz

Lützow (1913)



Lützow (1939)



Mackensen class

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O-Class Battlecruiser

O-Class, The Battlecruiser of Plan Z

Seydlitz

They built slowly. They even wanted to sell it to the Soviet Union, fortunately we were not averse to buying. Hitler finally banned the sale in 1939, and work resumed. By May 1942, the cruiser was almost completed, but by this time large German surface ships had finally fallen out of favor with Hitler, and work was stopped.

It’s hard to say who came up with the crazy idea to turn a 90% completed cruiser into an aircraft carrier, but this idea was approved. An aircraft carrier could seriously facilitate the work of German raiders against convoys that were covered by aircraft carriers.

It was decided to remove the main caliber artillery, rebuild the deck and change the design of the hull above the armor belt. The ship was supposed to receive 5 twin 105-mm anti-aircraft guns, four 37-mm twins and five 20-mm firlings. It was assumed that the hangar would accommodate 18 aircraft.
Here the ship was laid down and it can be divided and made 2 different ships. 1) Make an ordinary cruiser, as in the photo. 2) Make an Aircraft Carrier version (At least Germany would have its own Aircraft Carrier BOT on the maps). 3) Make both options


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Scharnhorst class Project 1047

(Battle cruiser)

SMS Moltke (1912)

Moltke (линейные крейсера 1911-1912)

SMS Seydlitz (1912)

Seydlitz (линейный крейсер 1913)

Weapons:

Ruhrstahl X-4

Ruhrstahl X-4 - Wikipedia


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IDK which aircraft could get this smh

Hs 293

Hs 293
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For the Do-217, He-111, He-177, Fw-200
Note: only the He 177 (of I and II.Gruppen /KG 40), certain variants of the Fw 200 (of III./KG 40) and the Do 217 (of II./KG 100 and III./KG 100) used the Hs 293

Hs 239D (controversial)

Hs 293D was television-guided with a large Yagi antenna transmitting back to the launch aircraft. Seventy were built and tested, but it was never used operationally.

V-1 Flying bomb (air launched)

V-1 flying bomb (buzz bomb) - #14 by GHOST_KING5710

Era Divider


Vehicles:

Aufklärungspanzer BRM-1K

Aufklärungspanzer BRM-1K - Even more rare than the German BMP-2

ACV PUMA CB25

ACV PUMA (light) CB25

ACV Puma PM2


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APE (Amphibious Engineer Erkundungsfahrzeug) Rh202

AKA TPz Fuchs (Rh 202)
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ARTEC GTK Boxer RT60 (8x8)

ARTEC GTK Boxer RT60 (8x8)


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Boxer Family

BOXER IFV RCT-30
RCH-155 to the German branch

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Boxer (wheeled) 120

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BOXER (Tracked) 120/155

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BOXER SKYRANGER

CV9035NL MLU (possibly controversial)

Since the Netherlands and Germany are merging and forces, this vehicle in the German TT makes sense (non exclusively)
CV9035NL MLU to Germany branch

Condor APC (Rh 202)

Condor APC (Rh 202) - Exported Autocannon
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Desert fox ultralight


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Donar 155 SPH

Donar 155 SPH - Efficiency

Fennek SWP

Flakpanzer Z 30

from the '70s, based on the chassis RU 222 from the HS 30. Weight problems led to the system
being transferred to a Leopard 1 chassis and then the 30 mm calibre was replaced by the 35 mm gun
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FlaRakRad 8x8: Evolution


FlaRakRad EM: Evolution

Gepard 1A2 Mod 2008 (Attica thermals)

Gepard 1A2 Mod 2008
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HS.30 Family

German HS 30 Prototypes, Derivatives and Projects | Secret Projects Forum
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HWK 13 (HOT)

HWK 13 HOT
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IRIS-T SL

IRIS-T SL - The Surface Launched variant

JPz Panther -HOT (Prototype)

Panther Anti-Tank/Anti-Helicopter | Secret Projects Forum

Kf-31 Lynx (prototype)

Kf-41 Lynx (Prototype)

Kf-41 Lynx 120 (Prototype)

Kf-41 Hitfact

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Kf-51 Panther

KF51 Panther

Kf-51 Panther (HERO 120)

KF51 Panther (HERO 120) - The New Apex Predator

Kf-51U

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KNDS EMBT 2017

EMBT 2017

KNDS EMBT 2022

KNDS EMBT (2022) - The Futuristic Leopard for Europe
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KM Wildcat 30

Krauss Maffei Wildcat 30
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Leopard 1 Giraffe

ersuchsträger “Giraffe” PARS 3 LR 25 to the German branch. Horseman of the Apocalypse from the 90s

Leopard 1A6 (120/L44)

Leopard 1 variants | Secret Projects Forum



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Leopard 2 Turm auf M-48

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Leopard 2AV (120)

Leopard 2 prototypes | Secret Projects Forum

Leopard 2A4 (1991)/Baulos 8

Leopard 2A4 (1991)/Baulos 8 - The ultimate 2A4
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Leopard 2A4 (140 RUAG)(Swiss)

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Leopard 2A4 Evolution

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Leopard 2A5 MUSS

Leopard 2A5 MUSS
PLEASE FIX THE MUSS APS BEFORE ADDING THIS

Leopard 2 HEL (L55)

Introduce Leopard 2 HEL (L55) into the Germany branch
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Leopard 2A6A3

Leopard 2A6A3: “I’m the upgrade”.
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Leopard 2A6EX

Ввод техники Leopard 2a6ex - Передано разработчикам - War Thunder — официальный форум

Leopard 2E

Introduce Leopard 2E into the Germany branch
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Leopard 2A7A1

Leopard 2A7A1 (2021) в ветку Германии - Передано разработчикам - War Thunder — официальный форум
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Leopard 2A7DK (L55A1)

Introduce Leopard 2A7DK (L55A1) into the German branch

Leopard 2A7DK (L44)

Introduce Leopard 2A7DK (L44) into the German branch

Leopard 2A7Q

Leopard 2A7Q


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Leopard 2A8 Demonstrator

Leopard 2A8 Demonstrator: The Battlefield King
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Leopard 2 ATD

Leopard 2 MBT “Technologieträger”: Advanced Technology Demonstrator
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Leopard 2 Skyranger 35


Leopard 2 A-RC

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Добавить в ветку Германии Leopard-2 A-RC 3.0 - Передано разработчикам - War Thunder — официальный форум

M-41GTI

M41GTI - Another Failure

M48A1

KPz M48A1
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M48A1 Applique mod

KPz M48A1 - #2 by kubiiik_svK


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Marder 1 Prototype (3 Axis Stabilised)

Erprobungsträger mit 3-achs Stabilisiertem Turm | Secret Projects Forum
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Marder HVMS MICV

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Marder 2

Marder M12

Marder M12 - An Interim Solution
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Marder 1A3 AMAP-ADS

Marder 1A3 with AMAP-ADS (APS) - Germany - War Thunder - Official Forum

Marder 1A3 Mod

Seen today on the open house of the German Ministry for Defense, the Marder 1A3 Mod is
used as the so-called “Systronic Demonstrator”. Basically the same vehicle as the Marder 1A3,
it is fitted with a drive-by-wire system, usable from three stations inside, a remotely controlled
weapons turret for guns and missiles (still fitted as mock-up only) and new sensors. Additionally
a training system and a close range communications and data transmission system for the dismounted infantry is integrated. The vehicle has six flexible configurable workstations and is meant to be used in network-centric theatres.
BW – Schützenpanzer Marder 1A3 | TANK-MASTERS – Photos & Journalism | Military Photos & Journalism

Marder 1A5(A1) MELLS

Marder 1A5(A1) MELLS
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Marder VTS1

VTS1-reddit
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M113 MSCV

M113 Fire Support Combat Vehicle - I Stepped On An M113
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M113 A1 G Milan-1

Baubericht - M113 A1 G
MTW M113 (Bw)
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NVA Fla-SFL 57/2

NVA Fla-SFL 57/2
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PM2-Leopard 1A5

PM 2 with Leopard 1A5 Turret - This Looks So Wrong
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PUMA Prototype

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Puma ES 24

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Panzerhaubitze 2000

Panzerhaubitze 2000

Panzerhaubitze 2000 A1 and A2

PzH 2000 A1 - 60 round Gunslinger
BW – Panzerhaubitze 2000 A2 | TANK-MASTERS – Photos & Journalism | Military Photos & Journalism


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Pantsir S1E (MAN 8x8) (controversial)

UAE Pantsir S1E based on MAN SX 8x8 truck

RakJPz 4 Jaguar 2

RakJPz 4 Jaguar 2

Rheinmetall Skynex

https://www.rheinmetall.com/en/products/air-defence/air-defence-systems/networked-air-defence-skynex
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SFL 2S3M GDR

SFL 2С3М
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SFL 2S1 GDR

SFL 2S1
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Sonderwagen III

Sonderwagen III
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SPz BMP-2

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SPz I C

https://www.reddit.com/r/warthundermemes/comments/172eepv/spähpanzer_sp_ic_german_light_tank_where_is_it/?share_id=_rDQD9CgLFCW6uIu1HT29&utm_content=1&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1
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SPW-40 Startfahrzeug 9P110

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Skyguard-M

Rheinmetall Oerlikon SkyGuard-M: The German six-shooter

Schwerer Panzer X (controversial)

(T-10M)
Schwerer Panzer X


Screenshot 2024-06-23 073402

T-54A


T-54 AMZ

T-54amz
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T-54 Jung Jungenthal (personally not in favour)

Army Guide
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/11qzuaw/gaijoob_please_t54_jung_jungenthal_upgrade/
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T-55a(p)

T-55a(p)
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T-55 AM-2B

T-55am-2b
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TPz Fuchs (MILAN)

Tpz Fuchs MILAN - Germany - War Thunder - Official Forum


https://www.armyrecognition.com/germany_german_army_wheeled_armoured_vehicle_uk/fuchs_tpz_1_6x6_armoured_personnel_carrier_technical_data_sheet_specifications_pictures_video.html
TPz Fuchs - Wikipedia
Tank Encyclopedia - The Online Tank Museum
The German Transportpanzer 1 6x6 TPz Fuchs

TPz Fuchs PARS 3


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Th 301

Th 301
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Th 325

Th 325
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Th 400

Th 400
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Wiesel 30mm

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Wiesel MELLS

Wiesel 1 MELLS -The new killer Wiesel

Wiesel Mistral

Aircraft:

Aero L-39ZO

Alpha Jet WTD-61

WIP

EWR VJ 101

EWR VJ 101

Euro Fighter Typhoon

Eurofighter Typhoon - Germany’s Best Fighter Jet

F-4E Phantom II

McDonnell Douglas F-4E Phantom II - Germany’s Forgotten Phantoms

F-104G CCV

F-104 Types - International F-104 Society International F-104 Society
http://www.916-starfighter.de/
http://www.916-starfighter.de/Historie_CCV-F-104G.pdf
F-104G CCV-reddit

MiG-17A/F

Mig-17
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MiG-21M

The most common German MiG-21 variant - it’s an export model based on the MiG-21S. Basically a MiG-21MF with the slightly less powerful R-11F2SK-300 and R-13Ms (not M1s!) instead of R-60s. Perfect for 10.0.

MiG-21F-13

MiG-21F-13
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RF-4E KWS

McDonnell Douglas RF-4E KWS - Aggressive Reconnaissance

Su-20

Su-20

Su-25 368 Ground Strike Regiment (controversial)

Su-25 ‘Frogfoot’ of the 368.OShAP at Tutow airbase, Demmin, East Germany with Sukhoi Su-25 strike aircraft.
This takes place during the time of the GDR.
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Sources for the Su-25

Tornado IDS ASSTA 3 - 4

Tornado IDS SLE

Panavia Tornado IDS SLE - Forever Young

VAK 191B

VFW VAK 191B - Wikipedia

Helicopters:

Bell Textron 249


EC-635 T2+

Helicopter Eurocopter EC-635 T2+ (Insert into Germany branch)

EC-645 T2

Light combat helicopter Airbus Helicopters EC-645 T2 (Add to Germany branch)
https://www.airbushelicopters.com/website/docs_wsw/_RUB_47/tile_3075/EC645-T2-MP-05.pdf
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EC-665 Tiger PT5R

Eurocopter EC-665 Tiger PT5R - The Tiger Gets Its Claws
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EC-665 Tiger KHT

Tiger KHT

H-145

Kawasaki BK 117A-3M

TURRET WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
MBB/Kawasaki BK 117A-3M - Passed for Consideration - War Thunder - Official Forum

Mi-24D

GDR Mi-24D

Weapons:

30, 35mm AHEAD


30mm APHE for Turm III

Wishlist for Germany (WIP) - #1166 by Little_relaxed45

Armament for Bo-105

Please return the Bo-105 that could carry TOW missiles!
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Brimstone AGM

For Tornado IDS ASSTA 4

Extra PARS 3 for Tiger UHT

Outboard pylon stations could mount two more PARS each

Aim-9L I-1

(Basically an Aim-9M)
For Tornado IDS (All variants in German service)
For F4F-ICE (When added)

DM33 FAPDS-T

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For Gepards only

IRIS-T

IRIS-T - The pinnacle of IR guided Short Range Air to Air Missiles
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For Euro Fighter Typhoon (when it is added)
For Tornado IDS ASSTA.4
For F4F-ICE (Maybe have the Aim-9L I-1 as stock and give IRIS-T spaded)

Kab-500Kr

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For Su-22 M4 only

R-73

For Su-22 M4
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HFK/KV

For Roland SAM system
HFK/KV: The Ultimate Roland

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Camos:

Spoiler

IMG_4532
IMG_4533
IMG_4534
IMG_4535

Modifications:

TVC for EF Typhoon

Whether to add EJ200-01A TVC engines for Germany and Spain in the future and on which versions of aircraft

FLW 500 weapons system

Add as a modification or replace the 12.7mm on the Leo 2 PSO turret with 20mm or 30mm FLW 500
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For Leopard 2 PSO

Multi Function Rail Launcher


For Tornado IDS, will allow some more degree of self defense

RMK 30mm Turret

For Tiger UHT
UHT's RMK30 chin turret revisited (Post F-16AJ/ YAK-141 revelations) - Germany - War Thunder - Official Forum

Thanks a lot to:
List of Previously Suggested Ideas - German Ground Forces @leroyonly
Great thanks to @-Bundeswehr- , @GHOST_KING5710, @bristrees, @NER055, @Chris4win, @ID_Heaven, @Godvana, @Rileyy3437 and @PointyPuffin

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The Bo 115 and P.277 were sadly only ever mock-ups.

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so no flight testing?

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Nope, the closest thing would be either the Tiger prototypes or the Bell Textron Model 249

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Neither can use R73s

uhuh…

Spoiler

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Don’t forget the IRIS-T.

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i was thinking of adding that to the list… maybe ill add the EF too. lets make it one for the times

It isn’t exclusive to the Eurofighter. The ICE also carried it.

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And the Tornado

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The reliability of that doc is questionable.

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R-73 with red sensor covered


Also R-73

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That 1st one is an R-60/M/MK, not an R-73.

Its also not even a live missile, just an inert training one.

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What about Alphajet?

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added :)

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The flying pencil that could


An upgrade the 104 needs

History

During the peak of research and development on the modified airframe of the F-104 in Germany, the EADS project stood out as one of the most knowledgeable initiatives, contributing significantly to discoveries about the F-104 airframe.
Seeking to enhance the manoeuvrability of the F-104 starfighter, the Messerschmitt-Bölkow-Blohm (MBB) company undertook modifications on a German Air Force F-104G by adding substantial weight to the tail section, intentionally destabilizing it, and integrating Computer Controlled Flight systems.
This transformed the aircraft into the F-104G-CCV (computer controlled vehicle), with an additional set of horizontal stabilizers from another F-104 positioned behind the cockpit canopy.
Further computer systems were installed to enhance flight control and manoeuvring capabilities. Additionally, external fuel tanks similar to those on the F-16 were affixed to the fuselage.
The insights gained from this aircraft proved invaluable in the development of both the Tornado and the Eurofighter Typhoon.
One complete aircraft is currently housed in the German aviation museum. Two such airframes underwent modifications for testing and flight experimentation.

Specifications
  • Crew: 1
  • Length: 16.6m
  • Wingspan: 6.6m
  • Height: 4.1m
  • Empty weight: 6,600 kg
  • Maximum Takeoff weight: 24,000 kg
  • Powerplant: 1 × General Electric J79 afterburning turbojet, 4130 kgf thrust dry, 8400 kgf with afterburner
  • Maximum Speed: 2,460 km/h
  • Maximum Altitude: 22,000 m
External Stores

Disclaimer: the CCV was apparently never tested with weapons but in game i suppose a bit of historical leniency can be provided even with just the standard F-104G loadouts.

  • 3 x 250kg Matra 25E bombs
  • 3 x 500lb Mk82 bombs
  • 3 x 750lb M117 cone 45 bombs
  • 3 x 1000lb Mk83 bombs
  • 2 x Hydra rockets
  • 4 x Aim-9J AAMs
  • 2 x AS.20 NORD AGM
  • 2 x AS.30 NORD AGM
    Plus full CCIP but no CCRP
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My personal wishlist is
He 280
VAK 191B
VJ 101
EF 126

Also a few designed in foreign nations but designed by Germans post-war

Pulqui II
HA-200
HA-300
HF-24

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There is a german ww2 vessel with a helicopter on it. That would be cool to add even though it won’t be very usefull. But can’t remember if it was this helicopter

ill add these for sure! thanks!

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its more of a meme than anything else lol. it did carry 2 x 250 kg bombs so it might be a good replacement for the Bf-109 in GRB