German WW2 Tank, Anti Tank guns and more of 7,92mm - 60 cm

Here I created an Index of Self propelled and used german Tank, Anti Tank and other guns and their ammunition. Going from small (7,92mm) to the biggest (60 cm) Howitzergun which where used in a self propelled form.

Also make shure to check out my other 2 Posts about AA Guns as well as Aircraft Armarments.

Ill leave Propaganda Flyer rounds, Marker rounds and most duplicate rounds (of same function) out.

Inside of the folder i will add special info about the ammo and usage (if there are dedicated ones)

Note: Generally speaking, Self destructing ammo was both for air and ground targets, only non Sd ammo was only for ground targets.


7,92mm Mg 13 K (Kurz/Short)
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The Mg 13 Dreyse and the Mg 13 K (Kurz/short) are pretty much identical, however a “shorter” barrle was used, but unlike popular believe, it was just shortened to be in line with the Mg 34 down to 600mm from 718mm. Mainly used in the Pz I, but also prewar desinges of Armored Cars and Trucks, as well as even later on in the war, to simply fill the lines of Mgs as as many as possible were needed. However here i will name the K version as it was the standart use of WW2.

Caliber: 7,92mm

Ammo: 7,92x57mm

Fire Rate: 550-600 rpm

Magazin and Drumfed: 25 and 75 rpg

Muzzle velocity: 785 - 875 m/s

Weight: 11,4 kg

Mounting: Coaxial and AA/GP
on Nb.Fz., Pz I and Prewar desinges of Armored Cars and Trucks.

Ammo Types: Ap, Ap-T, Ap(c)

Cutaway of all:(Click to show)

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Ap:


S.m.K. (Ap) 11,55g 785m/s 13mm/10m

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S.m.K. L'Spur (Ap-T) 10g 810m/s 10mm/10m

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S.m.K.H. (Ap(c)) 12,6g 875m/s 19mm/91m

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Pz-Gesch. (Panzergeschoss) (Ap) 10g 810m/s 13mm/10m

It was mainly designed of 2 tasks, 1. reduce needed amount of lead and copper as the reserves ran out and 2. to increase penetration after the bullet allready passed through aircraft skin (At 100m in comparission to the S.m.K. -v- through 70° 3mm Dualiminium 8,7mm penetration instead of mere 4mm)


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7,92mm Mg 34/42
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Mg 34:(Click to show)

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Standart Infantry Mg (from Light to Heavy with Tripod) as well as GP Mg on vehicles, Coaxial and on AA/GP mount. Main Tank Mg till the end of the war duo to the barrle change system, unlike the Mg 42s which conflicted with the mounting, except open turrets and Lafetts (see Sd.Kfz.234/1 Hängelafette) some late war Turrets such as of the Sd.Kfz.234/2 and Schmalturm found on the Panther F

Caliber: 7,92mm

Ammo: 7,92x57mm

Fire Rate: 900 / 1200-1600 rpm

Bletfed per Drum and Bag: 50 - 250/300 rpg

Muzzle velocity: 785 - 875 m/s

Weight: 11,5 / 10,6 kg

Mounting: Coaxial and AA/GP
on Nb.Fz., Pz I and Prewar desinges of Armored Cars and Trucks.

Ammo Types: Ap, Ap-T, Ap(c)

Cutaway of all:(Click to show)

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Ap:


S.m.K. (Ap) 11,55g 785m/s 13mm/10m

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S.m.K. L'Spur (Ap-T) 10g 810m/s 10mm/10m

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S.m.K.H. (Ap(c)) 12,6g 875m/s 19mm/91m

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Pz-Gesch. (Panzergeschoss) (Ap) 10g 810m/s 13mm/10m

It was mainly designed of 2 tasks, 1. reduce needed amount of lead and copper as the reserves ran out and 2. to increase penetration after the bullet allready passed through aircraft skin (At 100m in comparission to the S.m.K. -v- through 70° 3mm Dualiminium 8,7mm penetration instead of mere 4mm)


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7,92mm Mg and EW 141
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Initially designed along the Mg 131 and Mg 151, using the Patrone 318 of the Pzb. 38/39/41 it was to offer superior ballistics and penetration compared to the normal Mgs while taking up less space and weight compared to its bigger brothers. Was discontinued duo to extreme barrle wear with the 900 Rpm as well as ammo cost of the S.m.K.H. while overall not beeing as effective as envisioned.

Instead the EW 141 (Einbauwaffe) was developed from it, to be mounted into tanks (Pz I Ausf. C and R.K.9.) but only in Semi-Automatic to reduce barrle wear.

Caliber: 7,92mm

Ammo: 7,92x94mm

Fire Rate: 900 rpm (theoretical, tho only Semi-Automatic) (In game propably limited to 60 rpm)

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Muzzle velocity: 1250 - 1450 m/s

Weight: 22,5 kg

Mounting: Main gun in Pz I Ausf. C and R.K.9 Hybrid Tank

Ammo Types: Ap, Ap-T(c) and Ap(c)

Cutaway and Drawings of ammo:(Click to show)

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S.m.K.H. Rs L'Spur (Ap-T(c)) 14,53g 1250m/s 35mm/10m

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S.m.K.H (Ap(c)) 12,6g 1300m/s 35mm/10m

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Panzergeschoss (Ap) 10,4g 1450m/s 36mm/10m (Gaijins Calculator)

(Full caliber steel round with copper driving band) To reduce needed copper and lead and increase penetration after pasing through 3mm dualiminium aircraft skin at 70° (at 100m still 8,8mm penetration instead of mere 4mm)


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2 cm KwK 30/38 L/65
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KwK 30:(Click to show)

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KwK 38:(Click to show)

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Main Light tank, Armored Car and Truck armarment, often universal rolle against Infantry, reinforced structures, light armored and unarmored vehicles as well as low flying planes.

Generally used pre war till the end of the war, while the 38 was a improved version, reducing weight, increasing reliability and firerate, beeing seen as one of the best of its class in WW2.

The KwK 30 used a L/50 and L/55 barrles, while the KwK 38 recived the L/65 barrles of the Flaks to simplefy production and supplys, increasing the performance to the 2 cm Flak levels.

Caliber: 20mm

Ammo: 20x138mmB

Fire Rate: 280 / 450 rpm

Magazinfed: 10 rounds (20 rounds sometimes also available if space allowed it, on Trucks)

Muzzle velocity: 830 - 1050 m/s

Barrle length: KwK 30 L/50 and L/55, KwK 38 L/65

Weight: 64 / 58 kg

Mounts:
Turret mounting: usually -10° to +20°
Sockellafette: -7° to +85°
Hängelafette: -4° to +70°
Schwebelafette: -10° to +60°

Ammo Types: ApI-T, Aphe-T, APCR-T, He-I, HeI-T and HeI-T (m) (And self destruct)

Below characteristics are for the L/65 barrle, in the note in each ammo tap is also for the L/55.


AP:


Pzgr. L`Spur. o.Zerl. (Ph.) (ApI-T) 0,148kg 830m/s 40mm/10m

Note: Used against ground targets. Soft and armored. 3g White Phosphor Core.
Were fully replaced by the empty ones and later .Zerl in the Desert and other hot places, as the Phostphor had a nasty tendicy to self ignite in hot weather.
The Ph. marked ones were standart with the filler, however they also existed with an O. which indicated they didnt have a filler and were only 143g (and 835-840m/s).
(Velocity for L/55 is 800, 805-810 for the 143g.)
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Pzgr. L'Spur zerl. (Aphe-T Sd) 0,148 kg 830m/s 2,4g Pent 37mm/10m

NOTE: Against ground and air tragets. Soft and armored.
It does NOT have a fuze, the filler is for self destruction, in game it would also explode upon impact when shattering, like the japanese 30mm Aphe.
(Velocity for L/55 is 800.)
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Pzgr. 40 L`Spur. o.Zerl. (HVAP-T) 0,100kg 1050m/s 62g core 12x45mm 50mm/10m

Note: Only used against heavy armored targets, where the standart Ap ammo does not penetrate.
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Pzsprgr. L'Spur o.Zerl. (Aphe-T) 0,148 kg 830m/s 3,6g Pent 35mm/10m

Note: Mainly (?) used by the Navy and only against ground targets.
(Velocity for L/55 is 800.)
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Pzsprgr. L'Spur m.Zerl. (Aphe-T Sd) 0,121 kg 900m/s 3,6g Pent 33mm/10m

Note: Mainly (?) used by the Navy and against ground and air targets.
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(This last picture is an adaption for the Mg151/20 and uses a different shorter tracer, which results in it beeing also a bit lighter)
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He:


Sprgr. L`Spur. m.Zerl. (Hefi-T Sd.) 0,120kg 900m/s 6,2g Pent (10,54g) 5mm/10m

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Sprgr. Erd. o.L'Spur. o.Zerl. (He) 0,120kg 900m/s 11g Pent (18,7g)

Note: Only against groundtargets.
(Couldnt find the correct drawing, the Br.Sprgr. o.L’Spur is basically the same, just different filler with Zink.
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Brsprgr. L'Spur m.Zerl. (Hefi-T Sd.) 0,120kg 900m/s 6,6g H.5 and Aluminium

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Brsprgr. vk. L'Spur m.Zerl (Hefi-T Sd.) 0,120kg 900m/s 19g H.5 and Aluminium

Note: Against Air and Ground targets, reduced tracer length for increased filler. The full feight of the H.5 and Al mixture is 19g, not the pure He filler.
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Brsprgr. o.L'Spur. m.Zerl. (Hef-I Sd.) 0,120kg 900m/s 20g H.5 and Zink (7g H.5 13g Zink)

Note: Against ground and air targets. No tracer at all to have a fully capacity He and Incendary mix, however uses Zink instead of Aluminium, because its cheaper(?). (Weight calculated by Killakiwi)
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Minengeschoss:


M-Gesch. X m.Zerl (He-I (m) Sd.) 0,104kg 950m/s 25g HA 41 (40g)

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M-Gesch. X L'Spur m.Zerl (HeI-T (m) Sd.) 0,109kg 950m/s 24g HTA

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2,8/2 cm S.Pz.B.41
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Development upon the Gelrich Principal and the smallest of the 3 guns which entered production.
Envisioned as a lightweight high power Anti Tank rifle/cannon for the Paratroopers, it was used on all fronts from East to west and South. Based on the 28/20 mm round also a Full automatic Aircraft gun was in development, but cancelled duo to price, wear and better alternatives.
However along the single shot S.Pz.B.41, the 2,8/2 cm KwK 42 was developed and put into 50 Vk.9.03 Turrets. Beeing well liked for its Power to weight ratio and High velocity with Ap and He ammo available, it was used as is by infantry as well as mounted on lots of German and captured vehicles.

Caliber: 28/20mm

Ammo: 28x187mm

Fire Rate: 30 rpm

Single Shot, Horizontal Breechblock

Muzzle velocity: 900 - 1400 m/s

Weight: 229 kg (Full gun and mounting)

Ammo Types: He-T, Apcr


Ap:


Pzgr. 41 APCR 0,12kg (12x45mm 62g Core?) 1400m/s 90mm/10m

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Sprgr. 41 HE 0,086kg 5,2g Np.10 (8,84g TnTe) 900m/s

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3,7 cm KwK/Pak 36 L/45
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The 3,7 cm KwK and Pak 36 L/45 was a prewar designe form after WW1 and overall still in use as a light infantry gun in 1945, especially with over time 3 life extentions in form of Sprgr. 40 and Pzgr. 40 and Stielgranate 41. Beein a capable, simple and light AT and Tank gun at the beginning of the war.

Development started after WW1, after the development in WW1 of the 3,7 cm TAK 1918 L/21, it was allready seen that the caliber of 3,7 cm was ideal in archiving great power, effect while keeping the weight and size down. After the war a further development with increased firepower and modernized resulted in the Pak L/45, which also found its way in the Pz III as it was capable enove, produced in great numers until more powerfull armarments were available.

And was even taken as basis for the American 37mm gun and copied by the Japanese as Type 97 and taken as basis for later 3,7 cm gun development of the Japanese.

Caliber: 37mm

Ammo: 37x250mmR

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Fire Rate: 22 rpm

Single Shot, Horizontal Breechblock

Muzzle velocity: (110m/s) 745 - 1020 m/s

Weight: 327 kg (Pak Combat ready)

Mounting: On Tanks (Pz III and Nb.Fz.) and LOTS of different vehicles both by factory and field mod.

Ammo Types: Aphe, Hefi, Apcr, Supersize Heat-FS (only open compartment Pak)


Ap:


Pzgr. (Aphe) 0,685 kg 745-762m/s 13g Pent (22,1g) 47-49mm/10m

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Pzgr. 40 (Apcr) 0,37 kg 1020m/s 16x58mm Core 150g(or 250g?) 86mm/10m

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Sprgr. 18 umg. (He) 0,62kg 780m/s 29 g Np.10 (49,3g TNTe)

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Sprgr. 40 (He) 0,665 kg 780m/s 45 g Np.10 (76,5g TNTe)

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(Only for open compartment Paks)

15 cm Stielgranate 41 (Supercaliber Heat-FS) 8,5 kg 2,42 kg Füller 95 (Hexagon/TnT 60/40) Filler 110 m/s 180mm/30°/all distances effective range up to 300m, max range 700m

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3,7 cm KwK L/70
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Along with the earlyer L/65 (later used as 3,7 cm Pak.K. L/65 in 29P8 Panzerkasematte) were prototype and small series guns, intended to replace the L/45 gun as a more powerfull gun with (propably) the same breech, just a longer barrle and new high velocity ammo. And the L/70 beeing mounted on the Pz.Sfl… But abandond in favour of the 5 cm Pak 37 L/42 and KwK 38 L/42.

Caliber: 37mm

Ammo: 37x355mmR

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Fire Rate: 22 rpm

Single Shot, Horizontal Breechblock

Muzzle velocity: 900 - 1000 m/s (different source or differentiation of L/65 and L/70)

Weight:

Mounting: Bunkers and Pz.Sfl.

Ammo Types: Apcbc, Hefi


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Pzgr. (Apcbc) 0,71kg (22,1g) 900-1000m/s 13g Pent 71-83mm/10m


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Sprgr. 18 (He) 0,62kg 900m/s 29 g Np.10 (49,3g TNTe)

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Sprgr. 40 (He) 0,665 kg 900m/s 45 g Np.10 (76,5g TNTe)

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4,2 cm Pak 41 L/55
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Designed as the 2nd Size of Gelrich Principal and designed as a lightweight gun for paratroopers using the same mount as the 3,7 cm Pak L/45, but with more penetration. Build in relatively small numbers, but used till the end of the war. Used as is, but also mounted by paratroopers on captured and own vehicles. Example (under Picture a Captured Bedford MW).

Caliber: 42/28mm

Ammo: 42x406mmR

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Fire Rate: 22 rpm

Single Shot, Horizontal Breechblock

Muzzle velocity: 900 - 1500 m/s

Weight: 506 kg

Mounting: Pak 36 Mount

Ammo Types: APCR, He


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Pzgr. 41 APCR 0,37 kg 15x58mm core 150g (or 250g?) 1500 m/s 150mm/10m


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Sprgr. 41 HE 0,33kg 25g H.5 (42,5g TnTe) 900m/s

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4,7 cm Pak 35/36 L/35,6 (ö)
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Originally a Austrian gun, after Austria connected to the German Reich, many guns were also adapted into the german army, used as light infantry guns as they had both relatively good Ap and He rounds, as well as mounted of a couple of Captured and own Vehicles such as Bren Carriers and Morris CDSW.
It was also build under licenced copy by the italians as the 47/32 M35 gun. And later on also captured Netherlands and Russian stock of the gun (Kanon van 4.7 and M35B).

It was integrated into the german arsenal with even having own production ammo, as well as czech ammo adapted to it. And duo to the usage of a Muzzle brake it could fire higher charge ammo, than the Italian copy.
Used the same rounds (shells and casing) as the 4,7 cm Pak (t)

Caliber: 47mm

Ammo: 47x405mmR

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Fire Rate: 20 rpm

Single Shot, Horizontal Breechblock

Muzzle velocity: 350 - 880 m/s

Weight: ? kg

Mounting: Pak 35/36 Mount

Ammo Types: Aphe, Apc, Apcr, He


Ap:


Pzgr. 35(ö) umg. Aphe 1,51 kg 15g TnT 630-660m/s 54-58mm/10m

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Pzgr. 36(t) Apc (no Tracer) 1,65 kg 15g TnT 630-660m/s 64-69mm/10m

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Pzgr. 36(t) L'Spur (with tracer) Identical to the normal one, but equipped with Tracer unit Nr. 8

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Pzgr. 40 Apcr 0,86 kg 21x58 mm 335g Core 880m/s 88mm/10m

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Sprgr. 36(t) He (no Tracer) 1,50 kg 180 g Fp.02 400m/s

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Sprgr. 36(t) L'Spur (with tracer) again identical to normal one but with Tracer unit Nr. 8

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Sprgr. M35 He 2,37-2,45 kg 150g Fp.02 und Np.10 (192g TnTe) 350m/s

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4,7 cm Pak (t) L/43,4 (Sfl.)
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The 4,7 cm Pak (t) was a as the name tells czech captured and into german service adatped 47mm AT gun, that was quite liked and used as a universal light infantry gun. It was at the beginning the most powerfull light dedicated AT gun of its size, until the Pak 38 came into service, while overall beeing around as powerfull as the 5 cm KwK 38 L/42, only really sitting in its shadow in terms of smaller He round.
It was used as an field infantry/AT gun, as well as mounted on 2x Tankchassis as TD (Pzj I Ausf. B and R35 (f) chassis) and in Bunkers.
It had its own ammo, but also Austrian ammo was adapted and produced for it. (They used the same casings)

Caliber: 47mm

Ammo: 47x405mmR

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Fire Rate: 20 rpm

Single Shot, Horizontal Breechblock

Muzzle velocity: 400 - 1080 m/s

Weight: 590 kg

Mounting: Pak (t) (Sfl.) Mount

Ammo Types:


Ap:


Pzgr. 36(t) (APC) (No tracer) 1,65kg 15g TnT 775m/s 87mm/10m
Pzgr. 36(t) L’Spur (APC) (with tracer) 1,65kg 15g TnT 775m/s 87mm/10m

Picture of Pzgr. 36(t) (Click to show)

Pzgr. 40 (APCR) 0,83kg 21x58mm 335g Core 1080m/s 119mm/10m

Picture of Pzgr. 40 (Click to show)


He:


Sprgr. 36(t) (HE) (No tracer) 1,50kg 180g Fp.02 400m/s
Sprgr. 36(t) L’Spur (He) (with tracer) 1,50kg 180g Fp.02 400m/s

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5 cm KwK 38 L/42
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It was the further development of the 5 cm Pak 37 L/42, which was discontinued after the specifications were increased and instead the Pak 38 L/60 was developed. However the Pak 37 L/42 still went into development and production as the KwK 38 L/42. For its time it was a relatively powerfull gun and in its categorie (47-50mm) it was for its size at the top in terms of Penetration and He power (compared to Czech and French 47mm Tank guns) it was well liked and could even penetrate the heavy Kw-1 and 2 tank with Pzgr.40 as well as the weakpoints of the T-34 from shorter distance with the Pzgr.39.
It was mainly used on the Pz III until it was replaced by the KwK 39 L/60 and put into secondary rolles mounted on Sockellafetten as AT and Coastal guard emplacement. And even mounted on a Matilda II “Oswald”

Caliber: 50mm

Ammo: 50x289mmR

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Fire Rate: 20 rpm

Single Shot, Vertical Breechblock

Muzzle velocity: 450 - 1050 m/s

Weight: 400 kg

Mounting: Tank Maingun, Sockellafette I

Ammo Types: Apc, Apcr, He


Ap:


Pzgr 39 (APC) 2,06 kg 685m/s 17g Np.10 (28,9g TNTe) 80mm/10m

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Pzgr 40 (APCR) 0,925 kg 21x75mm 335g Core 1050 m/s 118mm/10m

(Yes the drawing sayes 0,9kg, however pretty much all captured stock was 0,925kg.)
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Sprgr. 38 (HE) 1,82 kg 450 m/s 200g Fp.02 und Np.10 (256g TNTa)

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5 cm Pak 38 L/60 / KwK 39 L/60
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The 5 cm Pak 38 L/60 was the result and redevlopment after new requirements were set after the 5 cm Pak 37 L/42. For its Class (47-50mm) it was if not the most powerfull and universal gun having both great Firepower and He power, enove to penetrate the Kw-1 and Kw-2 tanks as well as the T-34 (with exception to the angled hull front). Overall it was very good for its time, only overtaken by the bigger more powerfull Pak 40, however because of its size and availability it was till used in great numbers and mounted on different vehicles as well as further developed into the KwK 39 L/60, which was mounted into the Pz III and Sd.Kfz.234/2 beeing the best known. And even further developed into the Bk 5 and Mk 214A.

Caliber: 50mm

Ammo: 50x420mmR

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Fire Rate: 20 rpm

Single Shot, Vertical Breechblock

Muzzle velocity: (160) 550 - 1180 m/s

Weight: 540 kg (Bk 5)

Mounting: Tank Maingun, Sockellafette II

Ammo Types: Apc, Apcr, He and Supercaliber Heat-FS (Only open compartment)


Ap:


Pzgr. 39 (Apc) 2,06 kg 835m/s 17g Np.10 (28,9g TNTe) 106mm/10m

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Pzgr. 40 (Apcr) 0,925 kg 21x75mm 335g core 1180m/s 139mm/10m

(Yes the drawing sayes 0,9kg, however pretty much all captured stock was 0,925kg.
Velocity of 1180, 1190m/s is documented in german docs, USA Tests showed even 1200m/s.)
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Pzgr. 40/1 (Apcr) 1,07 kg 21x75mm 335g core 1130m/s 130mm/10m

A Different design, longer and heavyer, to increase range, in flight stability and to use standart Casings.
(The shorter Pzgr.40 required a case with a long neck to sit properly.)
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He:


Sprgr. 38 (He) 1,82 kg 550-870m/s 200g Fp.02 und Np.10 (256g TNTa)

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(Only for open compartment guns)

15 cm Steilgranate 42 (Supercaliber Heat-FS) 8,5 kg 2,42 kg Füller 95 (Hexagon/TnT 60/40) Filler 110 m/s 180mm/30°/all distances effective range up to 300m, max range 700m

(Adapted 3,7 cm Stielgranate 41)
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7,5 cm Le.I.G. 18 L/12
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Early on after WW1 the german army already saw the need of a light infantry gun, that can be easily carried and traversed around the field and can give firepower close to the troops, stronger that Mortars, but closer than Artillery can do behind the lines. As such the small brother of the allready familiar 15 cm s.I.G. 33 L/12 was developed, the 7,5 cm Le.I.G. 18 L/12 (Leichtes Infanterie Geschütz)
This gun was unique on its own with a Break action barrle and performance between 95-221m/s with 1-6 charges with semi-fixed casings, but also AT potential because of a Heat round.

Caliber: 75mm

Ammo: 75x89mmR Semi fixed (except heat)

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Fire Rate: 20 rpm

Single Shot, Break Barrle

Muzzle velocity: 95 - 250 m/s

Weight: 400 kg (Combat)

Mounting: Field Mount, Wooden and Pneumatic wheels.

Ammo Types: He, Smoke, Heat


He:


7,5 cm I.Gr. 18 (Bo.Pr) HE (no Tracer) 5,45 kg 680g Fp.02 und Np.10 (870,4g TnTa) 95-221 m/s

Bo.Pr stands for Bohr Pressstrahl (Drilled and pressed steel, these were cheap alternatives to increase production beyond standart ammo)
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Ap:


7,5 cm I.Gr. 38 Hl/A HEAT (no Tracer) 2,85 kg 520g H.5 (884g TnTa) 220-250 m/s 115mm/10m

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Utility:


7,5 cm I.Gr. 18 Nb Smoke (no Tracer) 5,5 kg 50g Smoke stuff 95-221m/s

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7,5 cm Geb.G. 36 L/19,5
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The 7,5 cm Gebirgsgeschütz 36 L/19,5 was a light weight gun designed for mountainous terrain, to be taken appart into multiple parts to be carried by solders or put on Horses or Donkeys/Mules.

Caliber: 75mm

Ammo: 75x130mmR (semi fixed)

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Fire Rate: 20 rpm

Single Shot, Vertical Breechblock

Muzzle velocity: 423 - 475 m/s

Weight: 750 kg (Combat)

Mounting: Field Mount, Pneumatic wheels.

Ammo Types: He, Smoke, Heat


Ap:


Gr. 39 Hl/C HEAT 4,8 kg 515 g H.10 (875,5g TnTa) 450 m/s 115mm/10m

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Sprgr. 34 HE 5,74 kg 686g Fp.02 und Np.10 (878,08g TnTa) 475 m/s

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K.Gr. Rot Nb. Smoke 6,2 kg 50 g Smokestuff 423 m/s

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7,5 cm KwK 37 L/24 / K.51 L/24
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The KwK/StuK/K.37 and K.51 L/24 were one of the most common and well know 7,5 cm guns of the german army, beeing a short infantry support gun with relatively good (especially for its time) AT performance with the K.Gr. Rot. Pz and effective later with the Heat rounds. As well as good He firepower. Beeing an Interwar designe it was from the beginning to the very end in usage on a multitude of vehicles, Pz IV, III and Stug III beeing well known. After the Pz IV and Stug III got their high velocity guns, lots of the L/24 guns went back into storage, as such along with the Pz III Ausf. N, lots of these were modernized into the K.51 L/24 and put on field mounts as well as Vehicles such as Halftracks and Trucks, Sd.Kfz.250, 251, 233 and 234/3.

Caliber: 75mm

Ammo: 75x243mmR

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Fire Rate: 20 rpm

Single Shot, Vertical Breechblock

Muzzle velocity: 385 - 450 m/s

Weight: 490 kg

Mounting: Field Mount, Main Tank gun.

Ammo Types: Apcbc, He, Smoke, Heat, Canister Shot

(Click here to see Ammosheet)


Ap:


K. Gr. Rot Pz (Apcbc) 6,8 kg 80 g Fp.02 und Np.10 (102,4 g TnTa) 385 m/s 52mm/10m

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Gr. 38 Hl/C (Heat) 4,8 kg 515 g H.10 (875,5g TnTa) 450 m/s 115mm/10m

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He:


Sprgr. 34 (He) 5,74 kg 686g Fp.02 und Np.10 (878,08g TnTa) 420 m/s

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Utility:


K.Gr. Rot Nb (Smoke) 6,2 kg 95g Pent 423m/s

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7,5 cm Pak 97/38 L/36
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The 7,5 cm Pak 97/38 L/36 was a combination of the French M1897, with a Rheinmetall Muzzle brake and placed on the 5 cm Pak 38 mounting. It was created out of need as not yet the Pak 40 was available and more guns with higher velocity were needed, as such this gun, equipped with the K.Gr. Pz. (P) which is unlike popular believe not a old Polish Aphe round, but instead the german K.Gr. Rot Pz adapted to the guns, which were used by the French, polish and American units and even up to the 75mm M3 gun. Furthermore the gun took great usage of adapted Heat rounds, beeing able to fight both the T-34 and Kw tanks, tho still with relatively low velocity.

Caliber: 75mm

Ammo: 75x350mmR

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Fire Rate: 14 rpm

Single Shot, Nordenfeld interrupted Screw

Muzzle velocity: 450 - 570 m/s

Weight: 1190 kg

Mounting: Field Mount, Main Tank gun.

Ammo Types: Apcbc, He, Smoke, Heat


Ap:


K. Gr. Pz (p) (Apcbc) 6,8 kg 80 g Fp.02 und Np.10 (102,4 g TnTa) 570m/s 91mm/10m

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Gr. 38 Hl/C (Heat) 4,8 kg 515 g H.10 (875,5g TnTa) 450m/s 115mm/10m

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He:


Sprgr. 34 (He) 5,74 kg 686g Fp.02 und Np.10 (878,08g TnTa) 550m/s

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Utility:


K.Gr. Rot Nb (Smoke) 6,2 kg 95g Pent 550m/s

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7,5 cm FK 16 n.A. L/36
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The 7,5 cm Fk 16 n.A. L/36 was the modernized 7,7 cm Fk 16 L/35, which recived a new 75 mm barrle and was one of the most powerfull pre war german 75mm guns, beeing taken as the golden standart for further development and resulting in the 7,5 cm K. L/41.
It was able to penetrate the Char 2C from 30° 600m which was also the basis taken for the gun above mentioned. It was placed and keep on the KD-I as well as was test fitted on one of the Großtraktoren for further development for the mounting of the K. L/41 into the Pz.Sfl. II.
It was heavily used at the beginning to also fight the heavy french tanks, but afterwards was mostly put into secondary roles as more powerfull AT guns emerged.

Caliber: 75mm

Ammo: 75x200mmR (Additional charges are larger than the caseing.)

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Fire Rate: 18 rpm

Single Shot, Horizontal Breech block

Muzzle velocity: 450 - 665 m/s

Weight: 1524kg

Mounting: Field Mount, Wooden Wheels, Sockellafette (KD-I), Main Tank gun (Großtraktor)

Ammo Types: Apcbc, He, Smoke, Heat


Ap:


K. Gr. Rot Pz (Apcbc) 6,8 kg 80 g Fp.02 und Np.10 (102,4 g TnTa) 650 m/s 110mm/10m

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Gr. 38 Hl/C (Heat) 4,8 kg 515 g H.10 (875,5g TnTa) 450 m/s 115mm/10m

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Sprgr. 34 (He) 5,74 kg 686g Fp.02 und Np.10 (878,08g TnTa) 665 m/s

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K.Gr. Rot. SapHef 6,62 kg 655m/s 520g Amatol (520g aquivalent) (with A.Z.23 (0,15)(Ms.) (delay for semi AP) Some penetration (Historical 20mm/30°/600m)

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K.Gr. Rot. Hef 5,83 kg 662 m/s 520g Amatol (520g aquivalent) (with A.Z.23 v (0,15))

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Utility:


K.Gr. Rot Nb (Smoke) 6,2 kg 95g Pent 660m/s

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7,5 cm K. L/41
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The 7,5 cm K. L/41 was developed upon the Fk 16 n.A. as basis, to have better performance and be a more modern improvement to it, used both as an Mobile AT gun (Pz.Sfl.II) as well as StuK. L/41 on a Stug III prototype. It was a prewar development, however was never put into service duo beeing cancelled in favour of the Pak and KwK 40, and the multiple pre production guns were placed into the 2x Pz.Sfl.II, 1x StuG III Prototype as well as the rest build into Panzerzug 3.

Caliber: 75mm

Ammo: 75x574mmR

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Fire Rate: 20 rpm

Single Shot, Vertical Breechblock

Muzzle velocity: 450 - 685m/s

Weight: 550 kg

Mounting: Main Tank gun, train turret

Ammo Types: Apcbc, He, Smoke, Heat


Ap:


K. Gr. Rot Pz (Apcbc) 6,8 kg 80 g Fp.02 und Np.10 (102,4 g TnTa) 685m/s 118mm/10m

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Gr. 38 Hl/C (Heat) 4,8 kg 515 g H.10 (875,5g TnTa) 450 m/s 115mm/10m

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He:


Sprgr. 34 (He) 5,74 kg 686g Fp.02 und Np.10 (878,08g TnTa) 485 m/s

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Utility:


K.Gr. Rot Nb (Smoke) 6,2 kg 95g Pent 485m/s

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7,5/5,5 cm Pak 41 L/57 (And Waffe 0725)
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(The barrle looks odd, as it is in travel position, with muzzle cover and moved back further in the mount to reduce overhang.)

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It was the 3rd gun of the Gelrich Principal and was the contester gun to the Pak 40, which while lighter and with impressive penetration and velocity had 2 big downsides which lead to its downfall and only 150 were produced. These were the need of 1kg Tungsten Carbite Cores for the normal AP ammo as well as high barrle wear, which if ingnored resulted in rapid loss of velocity and accuarcy. It was first designed as a Tank and Anti Tank gun in form of the Waffe 0725, however while planned for the Vk 36.01 Series, never completed and only used as Pak 41, with exception to 1 mounted in an Pz III Ausf. L. Late War it was planned to complete the 10x Vk 36.01 (H) and arm them with the guns and use remaining Pak 41 ammo, however the factroys and hulls were bombed resulting in the loss of material and cancellation of plannes.
1x Pz III Ausf. F was also converted into a tank destroyer by removing the turret and placing the gun with shield on the hull.

Caliber: 75/55mm

Ammo: 75x543mmR

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Fire Rate: 20 rpm

Single Shot, Vertical Breechblock

Muzzle velocity: 900 - 1260m/s

Weight: 650 kg

Mounting: Main Tank gun, Field Gun

Ammo Types: Apcr, Apbc, He

Some Ammo Drawings(And Penetration data):(Click to show)

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Ap:


Pzgr. 41 H.K. (Apcr) 2,6kg 28x111mm 0,90kg Core 1260m/s 216mm/10m

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Pzgr. 41/1 (Apcr) 3,1kg 28x140mm 1,35kg Core 1170-1190m/s 247mm/10m

A different design using a longer (140mm) core resulting in a heavyer shell for longer range and better penetration. (1190m/s by russian tests.)


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Pzgr. 41 W (Apbc) 2,5kg Solid 1260m/s 182mm/10m

Made from Softsteel, pushes through instead of piercing, more effective against harder armor.
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He:


Sprgr. 41 (He) 2,62-2,65kg 900m/s 186 - 200 g Fp.02 and H.5 (TnTa x1,31) (243,66g - 262g)

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7,5 cm KwK 40 L/43 / L/48 (And other versions)
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The 7,5 cm KwK 40 L/43 and later L/48 (along its other models such as StuK 40, Pak 39 and K. 40) were created under the requirement to reform the Pak 40 into a Tank adapted version and was the successor to the K. L/41, by taking the Pak 40s Barrle and combinating it with a new breech based on the L/41s gun with a new 495mm cartrige. It was a very versitale and powerfull gun for its time and quite well known to history. Starting its life with the L/43 barrle (The length difference of L/46 → L/43 comes from the shorter breech as the casing was only 495mm instead of 714mm, the rifleled part is the same) and was later extended to L/48 improving performance while also reducing the constant pressure and thus extending barrle life. Through the years they have recived different loadings resulting in different velocitys for the same gun, as the charge was increased in the mid life and reduced again and kept a bit lower to further increase barrle life.

Caliber: 75mm

Ammo: 75x495mmR

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Fire Rate: 15 rpm

Single Shot, Vertical Breechblock

Muzzle velocity: 450 - 740 / 750 - 919 / 930 m/s (L/43) and 450 - 770 / 792 - 990m/s (L/48)

Weight: 750 kg

Mounting: Main Tank gun, train turret

Ammo Types: Apcbc, Apcr, He, Smoke, Heat


Ap:


Pzgr. 39 (Apcbc) 6,8kg 17g H.10 (28,9) 740 - 792m/s 137-152mm/10m

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Pzgr. 40 (Apcr) 4,1kg 28x111mm 0,90kg Core 919 / 930 / 990m/s 172mm-192mm/10m

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Pzgr. 40 (w) (Apbc) 4,1kg solid 919 / 930 / 990m/s 119-132mm/10m

(Used till 1000m if normal Pzgr. 40 wasnt available, better velocity made it easyer to aim, flat block face meant its a bit better against angle, its made from softsteel, deforms instead of penetrates armor, better against harder armor. There is a difference between Pzgr. 40 (W) and Pzgr. 40 (Üb).)
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Gr. 38 Hl/C (Heat) 4,8 kg 515 g H.10 (875,5g TnTa) 450 m/s 115mm/10m

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He:


Sprgr. 34 (He) 5,74 kg 686g Fp.02 und Np.10 (878,08g TnTa) 550 m/s


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Utility:


K.Gr. Rot Nb (Smoke) 6,2 kg 95g Pent 540 m/s

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7,5 cm Pak 40 L/46
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The 7,5 cm Pak 40 L/46 was a new designe upon a scaled up version of the 5 cm Pak 38 L/60, which began in 1939 after Informations about new sowjet tanks reached Berlin. While its development took some time along its contender the Pak 41. In the end the Pak 40 won, which was one of the most powerfull of its caliber along with beeing a legendary gun like the 8,8 cm Flak. Later it was taken into considderation to mount it into tanks, however duo to its long casings of 714mm and long recoil length a new development in form of the KwK 40 was needed. It was used effectively till the end of the war, with even late war development of ammo such as the Gr. 38 Hl/C mit KLW (Klappleitwerk / Basically HEAT-FS)

Caliber: 75mm

Ammo: 75x718mmR

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Fire Rate: 15 rpm

Single Shot, Vertical Breechblock

Muzzle velocity: 450 - 990m/s

Weight: 1425 kg

Mounting: Main Tank gun, train turret

Ammo Types: Apcbc, Apcr, He, Smoke, Heat


Ap:


Pzgr. 39 (Apcbc) 6,8kg 17g H.10 (28,9) 792m/s 152mm/10m

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Pzgr. 40 (Apcr) 4,1kg 28x111mm 0,9kg Core 990m/s 192mm/10m

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Pzgr. 40 (w) (Apbc) 4,1kg solid 990m/s 132mm/10m

(Used till 1000m if normal Pzgr. 40 wasnt available, better velocity made it easyer to aim, flat block face meant its a bit better against angle, its made from softsteel, deforms instead of penetrates armor, better against harder armor. There is a difference between Pzgr. 40 (W) and Pzgr. 40 (Üb).)
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Gr. 38 Hl/C (Heat) 4,8 kg 515 g H.10 (875,5g TnTa) 450 m/s 115mm/10m

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He:


Sprgr. 34 (He) 5,74 kg 686g Fp.02 und Np.10 (878,08g TnTa) 550 m/s

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Utility:


K.Gr. Rot Nb (Smoke) 6,2 kg 95g Pent 540m/s

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7,5 cm KwK 42 L/70
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The 7,5 cm KwK and Pak 42 L/70 was a further development upon the 7,5 cm Flak L/60, which was developed into the legendary 8,8 cm Flak 18 L/56. The 7,5 cm Flak L/60 as is was seen as not powerfull enove for the Flakrole and it was decided to increase the diameter to 88mm, however with a velocity of 860m/s it was allready seen as powerfull in a different category, for anti tank. As such it was late or planned to mount it into the Tiger I H2, however with even further improved performance by lengthening the barrle to L/70. It was used on the Panther, Panzer IV/70 (A) and (V) as well as on a Prototype for 360° Fire on a Sd.Kfz.251 Ausf.B Teilgepanzert. It was an incedibly powerfull gun for its calliber and used as basis for 75/76mm guns after the was for example the french SA 50.

Caliber: 75mm

Ammo: 75x640mmR

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Fire Rate: 15 rpm

Single Shot, Vertical Breechblock

Muzzle velocity: 700 - 1120m/s

Weight: 1000 kg

Mounting: Main Tank gun

Ammo Types: Apcbc, Apcr, He


Ap:


Pzgr. 39/42 (Apcbc) 6,8 kg 17g Np.10 (28,9g) 935m/s 192mm/10m

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Pzgr. 40/42 (Apcr) 4,75 kg 28x121mm 1,12kg Core 1120m/s 258mm/10m

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Sprgr. 42 (He) 5,74 kg 725g Fp.02 and Np.10 700m/s 13mm/10m 11mm/all

(Couldnt find the correct picture, however its simply a Sprgr. 34 with a 2nd driving band)
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7,62 cm Fk 36(r) L/48,4
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The 7,62 cm Fk 36(r) L/48,4 was the russian captured F-22 gun, used as is as well as with own production ammo. It was used as a Field Gun (Feldkanone) as well as on the Sd.Kfz.6/3.
Originally the F-22 was developed to use a bigger casing than the ZiS-3 gun, however for better supply chains it was choosen against that and used the same ammo, however cince it was build with still a stronger breech, germany modified those into the 7,62 cm Pak 36 (r) L/48,4 by giving them a new german muzzle brake as well as drilling out the chamber to accept 714mm casings (like the Pak 40), to achiv greater velocity. In that form they were also mount on the Marder II and III.

Caliber: 76,2mm

Ammo: 76,2x385mmR

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Fire Rate: 15 rpm

Single Shot, Vertical Breechblock

Muzzle velocity: 455 - 850m/s

Weight: 1620 kg (Combat ready)

Mounting: Main Tank gun, Field Gun

Ammo Types: Apcbc, Apcr, He, Heat


Ap:


Pzgr. 39 Rot (Apcbc) 7,6 kg 20g H.10 630m/s 117mm/10m

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Pzgr. 39 (Apcbc) 7,1 kg 80g Fp.02 and Np.10 (102,4 g TnTa) 660m/s 115mm/10m

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Pzgr. 40 (Apcr) 4,15 kg 28x111mm 0,90kg Core 850 m/s 155mm/10m

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Gr. 38 Hl/C (Heat) 5,05 kg 515 g H.10 (875,5g TnTa) 455m/s 115mm/10m

Just a adapted 75mm Gr. 38
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Sprgr. 39 (He) 6,25 kg 585g Fp.02 and Np.10 (748,8g TnTa) 550 m/s

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7,62 cm Pak 36(r) L/48,4
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The 7,62 cm Fk 36(r) L/48,4 was the russian captured F-22 gun, used as is as well as with own production ammo. It was used as a Field Gun (Feldkanone) as well as on the Sd.Kfz.6/3.
Originally the F-22 was developed to use a bigger casing than the ZiS-3 gun, however for better supply chains it was choosen against that and used the same ammo, however cince it was build with still a stronger breech, germany modified those into the 7,62 cm Pak 36 (r) L/48,4 by giving them a new german muzzle brake as well as drilling out the chamber to accept 714mm casings (like the Pak 40), to achiv greater velocity. In that form they were also mount on the Marder II and III.

Caliber: 76,2mm

Ammo: 76,2x714mmR

Fire Rate: 15 rpm

Single Shot, Vertical Breechblock

Muzzle velocity: 455 - 990m/s

Weight: 1710 kg (Combat ready)

Mounting: Main Tank gun, Field Gun

Ammo Types: Apcbc, Apcr, He, Heat


Ap:


Pzgr. 39 Rot (Apcbc) 7,6 kg 20g H.10 710-720m/s 138-141mm/10m

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Pzgr. 39 (Apcbc) 7,1 kg 80g Fp.02 and Np.10 (102,4 g TnTa) 740m/s 134mm/10m

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Pzgr. 40 (Apcr) 4,15 kg 28x111mm 0,90kg Core 990 m/s 193mm/10m

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Gr. 38 Hl/C (Heat) 5,05 kg 515 g H.10 (875,5g TnTa) 455m/s 115mm/10m

Just a adapted 75mm Gr. 38
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Sprgr. 39 (He) 6,25 kg 585g Fp.02 and Np.10 (748,8g TnTa) 550 m/s

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8,8 cm KwK/Flak 36 L/56
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The 8,8 cm KwK 36 L/56 was based on the Flak 18 L/56, which was based on the 7,5 cm Flak L/60, after it was found to be lacking in diameter and payload. The Flak 18 allready had prooven itself in the Spanish Civil war where it was effectively used against all tanks (tho still all quite light) and again in the french campain when it was even placed on 2 different Halftrack basis of Sd.Kfz.8 and 9.
Its combination of projectile with great effect and penetration duo to good velocity made it usable to effectively fight strong positions, bunkers and tanks as well as to be used as field artillery.

Caliber: 88mm

Ammo: 88x570mmR

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Fire Rate: 10 rpm

Single Shot, Vertical Breech block

Muzzle velocity: 600 - 930 m/s

Weight: 1000kg (?) (Flak Combat ready 7,407 kg)

Mounting: Field Mount, Main Tank gun, Self propelled mount

Ammo Types: Apcbc, Apcr, He, Heat


Ap:


Pzgr. (Apcbc) 9,5 kg 160g Fp.02 and Np.10 (215,04g)

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Pzgr. 39 (Apcbc) 10,2 kg 64g Fp.02 and Np.10 (108,8g) 773m/s 165mm/10m

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Pzgr. 40 (Apcr) 7,3 kg 35x140mm 1,93 kg core 930m/s 211mm/10m

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Gr. 39 Hl (Heat) 7,64 kg 650g H.10 (1,1kg) 110mm/all

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Sprgr. L/4,5 (He) 9 kg 900g Fp.02 and Np.10 820m/s 18mm/10m 13mm/all

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8,8 cm KwK/Pak 43 L/71
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The 8,8 cm KwK 43 L/71 (and Pak) where if not the most powerfull dedicated AT gun, used after the war as a standart for protection against in new tank designes. It was a development upon the 8,8 cm Flak 41 L/70, which was a new requirement to create a Flak with 1000m/s and increased fire rate. The Tiger I was to be equipped with a L/71 gun (1 produced) and it was taken as the main armarment of the Tiger II as well as a couple Tank destroyers and self propelled guns. The Pak 43 was created by mounting the KwK 43 on the mount of the LeFH 18 and giving it the wheels of the s.F.H. 18.

Caliber: 88mm

Ammo: 88x822mmR

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Fire Rate: 10 rpm

Single Shot, Vertical Breech block

Muzzle velocity: 600 - 1130 m/s

Weight: 3650kg (?) (Pak 43)

Mounting: Field Mount, Main Tank gun, Self propelled mount

Ammo Types: Apcbc, Apcr, He, Heat

Ammo Sheet:(Click to show)

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Pzgr. 39/43 (Apcbc) 10,16kg 64g H.10 1000m/s 237mm/10m

(The drawings weight is wrong, even the Schußtafel sayes 10,16kg)
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Pzgr. 40/43 (Apcr) 7,3 35x140mm 1,93 kg core 1130m/s 279mm/10m

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Gr. 39 Hl (Heat) 7,64 kg 650g H.10 (1,1kg) 110mm/all

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Sprgr. 43 (He) 9,4kg 1kg Fp.02 and Np.10 750m/s 14mm/all

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10,5 cm LeFH 16 L/22
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The 10,5 cm LeFH 16 L/22 was a mid WW1 developed artillery piece, to replace the outdated and allready modernized 10,5 cm LeFH 98/09 L/12, which had a too short range especially in comparisson to other nations arty pieces. As such a longer barrled, but still with mobility in mind L/16 gun was developed and successfully used even in WW2 where it served along its younger and stronger brother the LeFH 18 L/28. Most pieces that germany was allowed to keep after WW1 were later in WW2 placed on captured vehicles to create cheap self propelled Howitzers, as these guns were not as mobile and shorter ranged as the LeFH 18.

Along with simple SPH conversions, it was also built into the turret of the Begleitwagen B.W. Krupp, creating the Rauchwagen R.W. Krupp, which however was not taken into production beyond the 1 prototype.

Caliber: 105mm

Ammo: 105x155mmR

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Fire Rate: 6 rpm

Single Shot, Horizontal sliding Breechblock

Muzzle velocity: 390 - 420m/s

Weight: 1525 kg (Combat ready)

Mounting: Main Tank gun, Field Mount, Wooden wheels.

Ammo Types: Apcbc, Aphe, He, Smoke, Heat, Canister Shot


Ap:


Pzgr. (Aphe) 14 kg 404 m/s 238g (304,64g aquivalent) filler 72mm/10m

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Pzgr. Rot (Apcbc) 15,56 kg 390 m/s 250g (357,5g) 84mm/10m

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Gr. 39 Rot Hl/B (Heat) 12,35 kg 420 m/s 2,53 kg filler aquivalent 105mm/all

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Gr. 39 Rot Hl/C (Heat) 12,35 kg 420 m/s 2,53 kg filler aquivalent 115mm/all

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F.H. Gr. (He) 14,81 kg 395 m/s 1,75 kg filler Fp.02 und Np.10 (2,24 kg TnTa)

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F.H. Gr. Nb. (Smoke) 14 kg 404 m/s 50g smokestuff dont expect much

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Kt. (Canitster Shot) 15 kg 400 m/s

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10,5 cm LeFH 18 L/28 (and other versions, StuH 42 and more)
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The LeFH 18 L/28 was the most numerous 10,5 cm Howitzer of the german army and in general a very well known gun with perhaps an eaqual reputation like the 8,8 cm Flak. It was an improved designe from the LeFH 16 L/22 from WW1 and was designed in the interwar period, it recived a bigger propellant charch (6 instead of 5), longer barrle, 2nd recoil cylinder over the barrle and a multitude of new rounds from the beginning and even in the late war period in form of a Pzgr Ts.

It was a very important piece, while tried to replace it with an L/35 gun later, that was however not the case duo to war situation and as such it stayed in service from the very beginning to the very end. It was a very versitale gun that was also mounted on lots of different vehicles Captured and own ones. It existed in a multitude of versions and deriveratives, but overall stayed true to its nature, with the most known version beeing the electically fired StuH 42, which had replaced on top recoil cylinders as well as Fixed Casings Heat Shells. During its service it recived a multitude of Muzzle Brakes, which were only needed for the F.H. Gr. F (Fern/High Range) and increased barrle life, however could fire other other shells without it.

Caliber: 105mm

Ammo: 105x155mmR

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LeFH 40 has only 1 piece longer casings of 264mm:
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Fire Rate: 6 rpm

Single Shot, Horizontal sliding Breechblock

Muzzle velocity: 472 - 495m/s

Weight: 1985 kg (Combat ready)

Mounting: Main Tank gun, train turret, Field Mount, Wooden and solid rubber wheels.

Ammo Types: Apcbc, Aphe, He, Smoke, Heat, Canister Shot, Apcbc-DS, He-DS


Ap:


Pzgr. Aphe 14 kg 480 m/s 238g (304,64g aquivalent) filler 72mm/10m

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Pzgr. Rot Apcbc 15,56 kg 470 m/s 250g (357,5g) 84mm/10m

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Gr. 39 Rot Hl/B Heat 12,35 kg 495 m/s 2,53 kg filler aquivalent 105mm/all

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Gr. 39 Rot Hl/C Heat 12,35 kg 495 m/s 2,53 kg filler aquivalent 115mm/all

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10,5 / 7,5 cm Pzgr. 39 TS (Apcbc-DS) 6,4 kg 765 m/s 17g H.10 138mm/10m

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He:


F.H. Gr. He 14,81 kg 472 m/s 1,75 kg filler Fp.02 und Np.10 (2,24 kg TnTa)

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F.H.Gr. F He 14,81 kg 540 m/s 2,21 kg filler Fp.02 und Np.10 (2,83 kg TnTa)

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10,5 / 8,8 cm Sprgr. 42 Ts (He-DS) 9,3 kg 620 m/s 850g Fp.02 and Np.10 (1,088 kg)

(Didnt find the drawings, as such here is the real thing)
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Utility:


F.H. Gr. Nb. Smoke 14 kg 480 m/s 50g smokestuff dont expect much

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Kt. (Canitster Shot) 15 kg 475 m/s

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10,5 cm K.18 L/52
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The 10,5 cm K.18 L/52 was the heavy 10(,5) cm schwere Kanone and bigger brother to the 10,5 cm LeFH 18 L/28, mainly used as Artillery, heavy AT guns and to attack heavy fortifications.
Generally speaking its a good gun for its class, trails for a longer barrle with increased velocity to 905m/s was trailed, however it was seen as not worth to implement as the range increase to weight increase was not great enove. Overall this gun was build onto the Pz.Sfl. IVb aka Dicker Max and was designed to attack the heavy fortified position of the Maginot line. Cince it came too late for that, it was reclassified as a Heavy tank destroyer and used on the Eastern front, where it could destroy even the heavy armored KW-1E tanks from great range.

Caliber: 105mm

Ammo: 105x650mmR (3rd/große ladung)

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Fire Rate: 12 rpm

Single Shot, Horizontal sliding Breechblock

Muzzle velocity: 822-835m/s

Weight: 5720 kg

Mounting: Main Tank gun, Field gun

Ammo Types: Apcbc, He, Saphe


Ap:


Pzgr. Rot Apcbc 15,56 kg 250g (357,5g) 822m/s 186mm/10m

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Pzgr. Rot (Ei) (Sapbc) 15,56kg 135g Fp.02, Fp.10 and Pyrin (173g Tnta?)

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He:


Gr.19 (He) 15,4kg 1,85kg Fp.02 and Np.10 835m/s

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12,8 cm K.40 L/61
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The 12,8 cm K.40 L/61 was basically the 12,8 cm Flak 40 L/61 in a anti ground rolle. Cince its incredible size and weight it was quite difficult to make a self propelled version, as such the Vehicle was basically build around the gun, the Sturer Emil based on the Vk 30.01 (H) with extended hull and the gun placed at the very end. Intended as a heavy assault gun like the 10,5 cm Dicker Max, however came too late to the French attack and the intended target was gone around, as such it took on the rolle of the Heavy Tank destoryer. However even tho it did it rolle very well, it stayed at the 2x Protoypes as it was decided that a Tank destoryer with such gun should be either a light and mobile chassis with a 360° Turret such as the later Waffenträger or a heavily armored Casemate designe such as the Jagdtiger, while this was neither, it was slow, relatively low armored Casemate tank destoryer. The original Flak 40 were heavy 17 ton Flaks which were only used in fixed position and Flak Türme, such as in Berlin. While the K.40 was also submitted as the Requested Anti tank gun, it was rejected in favour of the more powerfull Pak 44.

Caliber: 128mm

Ammo: 128x958mmR

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Fire Rate: 12 rpm

Single Shot, Horizontal sliding Breechblock

Muzzle velocity: 880m/s

Weight: 12000 kg

Mounting: Main Tank gun, Fixed position

Ammo Types: Apc, Apcbc, He


Ap:


Pzgr. (Apc) 26,35kg 550g Ph-Salz and H.10 (786,5g) 233mm/10m

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Pzgr. 43 (Apcbc) 28,3kg 550g Ph-Salz and H.10 (786,5g) 880m/s 252mm/10m

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He:


Sprgr. L/4,4 (He) 26kg 880m/s 3,6kg Fp.02 and Np.10 (4,61kg)

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12,8 cm K.44 L/55 (And other Models)
Ammo: 128x869mmR


15 cm s.I.G. 33 L/12 (and StuH 43 L/12)

Ammo: 150x129mmR

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For Stielgranate 42:
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15 cm s.F.H. 13 L/17
Ammo: 150x112mmR


15 cm s.F.H. 18 L/30

150x260mmR

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15 cm Sk C/28 L/55 in Mörserlafette


17 cm K.72 L/50


21 cm M.18 L/31

Ammo: 210x410mmR

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54 cm Gerät 041 L/11,5


60 cm Gerät 040 L/8,44


Source:
H.Dv. 119 Serie (Schußtafeln)
H.Dv. 481 Serie (Merkblätter für die Munition)
Geschossringbuch I - III+
D 460/7+
W 127 Datenblätter für Heeres- Waffen, Fahrzeuge und Gerät
Merkblatt für das Waffentechnische Personal der Panzereinheiten. (1944)
Merkbaltt für das Zusammenwirken zwischen Infanterie und Panzer
GERMAN EXPLOSIVE ORDNANCE - PROJECTILES AND PROJECTILE FUZES
H.Dv. 420 Serie
Captured Ammunition Bulletin No.6
C.E.S.I.M. 20x138 Solothurn
2C7 Perforation of Armor by German Projectiles (USA)
Schwerer Panzerspähwagen Sd.Kfz.234 (Museum Ordanance Special Number 24 Thomas L. Jentz)

Michael Fröhlich The Porsche Tiger and Ferdinand Tank Destroyer: VK 4501 (P) / Porsche Type 101 and the Panzerjäger Ferdinand/Elefant

Original drawing and info about Pzgr 41. Along with 2C7 above.
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Amazon.com

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The StG.44 (7,92×33mm Kurz) is also used as the hull machine gun for the Panther F (not modelled). Maybe other vehicles too.

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But it only uses the S.m.E ammo (as far as i know), which cant really penetrate anything. But it was also used with Krummlauf in the Jagdpanzer IV and more.

Brtitish Report on German 7,92mm S.A.A. for the Mp 43


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But it only uses the S.m.E ammo (as far as i know), which cant really penetrate anything.

What?

In fact, there was no armor-piercing cartridge in this caliber but:

Pist. Patrone 43 m.E.
These were m.E. - mit Eisenkern (“with iron core”) — mild steel cored projectile with a ballistic coefficient of approximately 0.132 (G7 BC) rounds.[14]
Pist. Patr. 43 L’spur
These were L’spur - Leuchtspur (“tracer”) projectile rounds.
Pist. Patr. m.E.L’spur
These were m.E.L’spur - mit Eisenkern Leuchtspur (“with iron core tracer”) projectile rounds.
Pist. Platzpatr. 43
These were Platz (“blank”) rounds.
Pist. Treibpatrone 43
These were Treib (“booster charge for rifle granades”) rounds.
Pist. Expatrone 43
These were Exerzier (“drill”) inert rounds for aiming exercises.
Pist. Werkzeugpatrone
These were Werkzeugpatrone (“toolcartridge”) inert rounds for examining the functioning of a firearms action.

I am not shure what you mean, but showed exactly what i sayed.
It has soft steel core rounds, as those were cheaper, cince they were an ersatz for lead.
I know of british test for the S.m.E. round fired from 600mm barrle and 7,92x57mm cartridge, and it achived something along 6-8mm steel. However the velocity of the Kurz is lower and in game it would be merly Ball anyway, that means (because Mg ammo isnt calculated, nor history based, that it will get like 5mm penetration, which i see simply not fit for the game.
Even 9x19mm had m.E. ammo, these were usefull as they could even penetrate light covers.

And where is your point now?

Coaxial MGs or the StG 44 (MP 43, MP 44) mentioned by Godvana, are primarily used to combat infantry and unarmored vehicles. And armor-piercing projectiles are not absolutely necessary for this, neither in reality nor in the game, where there are more than enough open self-propelled guns and anti-aircraft guns on trucks.

By the way, soft iron (St 30 or 33 if I remember correctly and can be scored with a pocket knife) is mild steel in English (see also sheet -3- sectional drawing, Free Cutting M.S. Core).

I know of british test for the S.m.E. round fired from 600mm barrle and 7,92x57mm cartridge, and it achived something along 6-8mm steel.

Fine,

  • it was never intended as a replacement for an armor-piercing projectile as we know today
  • and the British tested it at the time and found that it was.

Is that a reason not to use it in the game? No, I’ve already described it.

I dont know why you feel offended now, i just wanted to say with that, that yes it exists, you are right, i allready knew that, however i dont feel the need to include it in this list, as it was a late war ersatz.
Instead i even took a look and posted some british tests information in form of a comment, along his allready existing comment, that the Stg 44 was used in Panther F, and i also sayed that it also found more use in Jagdpanzer IV for example, with Krummlauf shooting through the roof. This was also a ersatz for the MG Rundumfeuer Gerät.
And i didnt say it was a replacement for Ap ammo, it was a replacement for Lead filled rounds, as lead reserves swindeled as well and was needed for other uses as well.
And i certainly didnt say it shouldnt be used in game, however it isnt in game (not my doing) and cince it is an Ersatz for the Mg 34 & 42, these were still used and would be a better option.

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My guess it was developed to reduce the barrel wear?
It’s also shown as potential MG 17 bullet but never adopted, probably because the better armor penetration through an airframe wasn’t good enough and the MG 131 did the same but better.

Shouldn’t the penetration be higher? Or are you basing it on Gaijins calculation?

It was made because both Copper and lead were running out as relacement for air and ground and aparently also used with the 7,92x94mm Patrone 318. It actually was adopted into service (as far as i can tell.)
Bit thank you reminding me, i forgot to add it to the Aircrafts ammo.

Gaijins calculator. Fron the wiki.

Considering that the 7.92x94mm machine gun was only a prototype I don’t think this round was ever mass produced.
The ammunition manual for aircraft guns still merely talks about SmK and SmE ammo in 1944.

Btw, nice work :)

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For PzB. 38 and 39. It used the same ammo.

Yeah but what’s the point of the AP round? They had the SmK.H to do any work and later they were converted to grenade launchers.

Don’t think they ever used that type of round.

If they used it actively idk, however there is mention of it in a book, as well as picture of it beeing fitted to the 94mm cartridge.
Maybe as a cheaper alternative as sort of Anti material sniper and long range sniper, tho without scope?
I assume its also far easyer to produce.
Its merly stock steel shaved to form, heat treated, added diving band. Instead of A steel core with lead lining and copper jacket.

Patrone 318 Pz-Geschoß