Vk 36.01(H) (Waffe 0725)

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Id like to suggest the Vk 36.01(H) armed with the7,5 / 5,5 cm Waffe 0725 L/57. It would offer a fun and well armed tank befor the Tiger I. With a unique gun, only mounted on a Pz III Ausf. L as well.

History:
The German army allready befor the war wanted a heavy tank assoon as 1938 with the Vk 30.01 as a siege tank. In the following years till 1941 and early 1942 devlopment was till running, as the war progresses, ever growing enemy tanks appeared and as such the requirements also grew, while the weight class set complications on how the design may look, starting at the Vk 30.01, growing into the
Vk 36.01 and eventually into the Vk 45.01 and then into the Tiger I.

The Vk 36.01 was a slight redesign and upsized version of the Vk 30.01 after it was required to increase the armor to 80-100 mm as well as to carry bigger armarments than the Vk.30.01 after its turret wasnt able to carry greater armarment than the 7,5 cm KwK or 10,5 cm LeFH without great redesign.
Overall a couple of hulls and turrets were build and tested, however the ever ground thread and requirements put also a stop to it and development continued on the Tiger I.

The Vk 36.01 just like the Vk 30.01 befor it was envisioned as a breakthrough tank to replace the Pz III and IV as both an AT tank as well as infantry support tank, armed with a 10,5 cm LeFH 18/3 as well as with a 7,5/5,5 cm Waffe 0725 (Pak 41) or 7,5 cm KwK 40.
While they were never completed, the 10,5 cm LeFH 18/3 was (with standart mount instead of a turret mount as seen on the StuH 42 or PzSfl. IVb different recoil cylinders) instead mounted on the B1 Geschützwagen (f) and the Waffe 0725 were even planned to be completly mounted again late war and use left over Pak 41 ammo, however bombing destroyed them and stopped it.

Overall i am mainly suggesting the 10,5 cm LeFH 18/3 L/28 variant, but the others could be a different vehicle in form of Event or Premium or Modificaiton as well, tho at a higher BR.

Pictures of the Gun:(Click to show)

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Pictures of the Tank:(Click to show)

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The Gun:
7,5 / 5,5 cm Waffe 0725 L/57
4 sec reload (aced) -8° to +20° and 360° traverse at 15-20°/sec


Ap:


Pzgr. 41 H.K. (Apcr) 2,6kg 28x111mm 0,90kg Core 1260m/s 216mm/10m

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Pzgr. 41/1 (Apcr) 3,1kg 28x140mm 1,35kg Core 1170-1190m/s 247mm/10m

A different design using a longer (140mm) core resulting in a heavyer shell for longer range and better penetration. (1190m/s by russian tests.)


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Pzgr. 41 W (Apbc) 2,5kg Solid 1260m/s 182mm/10m

Made from Softsteel, pushes through instead of piercing, more effective against harder armor.
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Sprgr. 41 (He) 2,62-2,65kg 900m/s 186 - 200 g Fp.02 and H.5 (TnTa x1,31) (243,66g - 262g)

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For more Info on the gun and other guns as well as ammo feel free to take a look at my Informatic Post about German WW2 Tank, Anti Tank and other Guns of 7,92mm to 60 cm

The Vehicle:
Dimensions: 6,05 m / 3,14 m / 2,7 m
Weight: 40 t
Engine: HL 174 450 Ps / 3000 Rpm, later replaced by the HL 210 700 Ps / 3000 Rpm
Speed: 50 km/h
Armor: (See under Pictures)
Frontal: 80-100mm
Sides and Back: 60mm
Top and bottom: 25mm

Source:
Thomas L.Jentz Panzer Tracks
Thomas Anderson Tiger
Geschossringbuch I
2C7 Perforation of Armor by German Projectiles (USA)

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If gaijin makes it premium

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My dream is to have it together with the VK3002m
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+1 we need a medium heavy tank for mid brs

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Give me all the squeeze bores please!! +1

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1 More upcoming.
In general, all abscure Field mods are generally well seen for me.

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I look forward to it!

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me too

PLS Gaijin

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VK 36.01 in the Techtree or as event reward, yes please Gaijin give us this tank.

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That would be a good option for an event vehicle in my opinion. Liked it.

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My fanaticism for this tank is so great that I even installed WOT just to have it and the VK3001H

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No , not enough information and there are better options to add instead of something that wouldn’t fit really into the tree (and we have existing vehicles in TT just not available to research anymore).
Of all the prototypes they could add germany really needs some to fill things like light tank role at rank III like potentially with VK 16.02 proposals

Wdym not enove info? The whole thing was build, all of it, just not all put together as 1 tank.
And the removed ones from the TT were removed because they didnt exist in a prototype stage.

But instead your asking for the Vk 16.02 Porposal Which actually was never build wow.
Your double standart can build a house.

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Interesting gun. Didn’t know the Germans made one like it. Also very surprising that they developed an HE round for it, which is unusual for squeeze bore guns. But a huge plus if it’s going into the game for dealing with open-top vehicles.

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Tey even had 3 Sizes in full production, 28/20, 42/28 and 75/55. Just not as Tank armarment, but mainly to give Small Size Powerfull lightweight guns to the Paratroopers. All with He rounds.
Which is a obvious reason, there are softer targets where you simply dont need nor want to waste tungsten on.

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@Ghostmaxi VK 36.01 (H) - Heavy Vehicles - War Thunder - Official Forum
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Comparing the VK3601, which had its chassis and turret built, with the VK1601 is unfair, to say the least.

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Some other pics from Panzer Tracks:(Click to show)

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Do you happen to have a suggestion for this one as well? Sounds really cool too!
Also one for this but with the KwK40 would be quite nice, a bit like the premium KW 1C.

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It’s one of the prototypes that would lead to the Tiger 1. It’s both interesting and important.

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This one allready passed to developers.

And

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