Panzer II Ausf. D

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I would like to suggest the Panzer II Ausf. D, the first generation of Panzer II with tortion bar suspention and goal of speed and manuverability.

History:
In 1938 the contract to redevelop the Panzer II with the goal of high speed and manuverability was given to MAN. The result beeing the Pz II Ausf. D (And E, difference beeing lubrecated tracks instead of the dry tracks), which were given to light devitions.

Main changes to the vehicle included the reposition of Engine and transmition from the right side to the center, new tortion bar suspention with 4 big wheels on each side and new monolithic 30mm Frontal armor instead of the previous 14,5mm (with add on armor). While the weight increased to 10 ton, duo the improvements it still was now able to reach 55 km/h.
These were build from 1938 to April 1939 with 43 Ausf. D and 7 Ausf. E, which saw service until April 1940 when they were called back to be rebuilt to be Flammpanzer and then again in 1942 again to be the Marder II (7,62 cm).

In game it would be inbetween the Ausf. C and F, while having similar armor to the Ausf. F, it has higher speed however still uses the slower fireing KwK 30 instead of KwK 38. It will offer a new relativly adequat protected but fast gameplay and be the normal counterpart to the Marder II (7,62 cm) if it comes to the game someday.

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Here with L/65 barrel:
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Stats:
Gun:
2 cm KwK 30 L/50 early war replaced by L/65 barrels.
180 Rounds, 300 Rpm, 10 round mags.
-10° to +20° 360° travers 25°/sec and higher.

Ammo: Different AP and HE rounds. 148g/820(800 for L/50)m/s to 120g/920(900 for L/50)m/s and HVAP 100g/1050m/s
For more info (and ease of editing when new/more info is available, ill only add it here:

Armor:

Armour Front Sides Rear Roof
Hull 30 mm (11°) Front plate
20 mm (73°) Front glacis
35 mm (36°) Bottom glacis 20 mm 15 mm 15 mm
Turret 30 mm 15 mm 15 mm 10 mm

Source:
Thomas L.Jentz, Hillary Louis Doyle: Panzer Tracts No. 2–3 – Panzer II Ausf. D–F
Deutsche Panzer im Zweiten Weltkrieg
Bob Carruthers: Panzers I & II: Germany’s Light Tanks

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I’d like to see the II J and possibly the II L, or Pz. I C. I’d also like to have a reason for them to add the Pz II, Pz III, and Pz VI Flamm Tanks.

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I agree the II L would be interesting to add, with Scouting to make it useful to bring to up into higher BR games.

As for the II D, the danger is overrunning low BRs with fairly capable Pz II variants. Cautiously +1.

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Its slower and slower fireing than the 222 and 234/1.

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Which one? The D or L? The D is almost exactly the same as the F other than looks for the most part, the L had a few different hull types, and two different guns fitted, on of them being the 2cm KwK and the other being the 30mm Mk 103, so it just depends. I think WOT has a Pz II L with the 50mm, fully turreted, unlike the open top we have which is historically accurate. Seeing how we already have the II L hull it wouldn’t be hard to add.

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Dam, you should read more into history and less WOT. No 3 cm gun was fittet and the D looks nothing and is nothing like the F. D and E are the same with different track types (D beeing dry and E lubricated) F is more of an Improved C with the transmission and engine again moved from the middle to the side and the new KwK 38. The D has the KwK 30. The L again is a whole new development with moving engine and transmission in the middle, new wider newer tracks with interleafed roadwheels and a whole new turret. The 3 cm gun is fully fantasy and the 5 cm gun was never build.

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Can you make a suggestion for the early Pz IIs? Basically a C without the extra armor.
The version (C) we have in-game is already from 1940 but a pre-war version could be put at 1.0.

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I actually was allready thinking about that, they could have a place in game in an possible WW1-Inter war mode without Pzgr.40

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