Sd.Kfz.234/3 mit 2 cm Flak 38 L/65 in Schwebelafette

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I would like to suggest this unique Sd.Kfz.234/3 armed with a 2 cm Flak 38 L/65 in Schwebelafette taken off of a Sd.Kfz.251/17 Ausf.D with it even being described in a American document after it was captured. It would offer yet another fun alternative to the /1 with less armor, though also a overall smaller mount with much greater depression (and possibly traverse speed) to those who missed the event and event vehicle 234/1 when it was available years ago.

Historically speaking, the Sd.Kfz.234 was the late war redesign and improvement for a new Schwere Panzerspähwagen with a multitude of rolls, based on the Sd.Kfz.231, however with improved profile, armor profile and armament as well as with a new more powerful Air cooled Diesel 220 Ps Tetra engine. Which Overtook production of 231s in 1943 with the /1 Having the 2 cm KwK 38 L/65 in Hängelafette to be able to fight Infantry, light targets, and Aircraft, the /2 was armed with a 5 cm KwK 39/1 L/60 in a fully protected turret against more armored targets, the /3 with 7,5 cm K.51 L/24 for infantry support similar to the previous Sd.Kfz.233 and the /4 as a dedicated fast Tank destroyer with 7,5 cm Pak 40 L/46.

This unique one is however a 234/3 equipped with a 2 cm Schwebelafette, as production difficulty duo to bombing often lead to new and unique factory fresh Modifications, in this case as apparently there was no 7,5 cm K.51 L/24 and/or Einheitslafette (universalmount) for it available, the hole in the front was closed off and the whole mounting off of a 251/17 Ausf.D was taken and placed in it.


Pictures:(Click to show)

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(Here the back MG mounting point is visible, however the was dismounted, idk if it will be available in game)
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2 cm Flak 38 L/65 and possible Mg 42 AA/GP Mg
250 Rounds, 480 Rpm, 10 and 20 round mags.
-10° to +60° 360° travers 25°/sec or higher.

Ammo: (Click to show)

AP:


Pzgr. L`Spur. o.Zerl. (Ph.) (ApI-T) 0,148kg 830m/s 40mm/10m

Note: Used against ground targets. Soft and armored. 3g White Phosphor Core.
Were fully replaced by the empty ones and later .Zerl in the Desert and other hot places, as the Phosphor had a nasty tendency to self ignite in hot weather.
The Ph. marked ones were standard with the filler, however they also existed with an O. which indicated they didn’t have a filler and were only 143g (and 835-840m/s).
(Velocity for L/55 is 800, 805-810 for the 143g.)
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Pzgr. L'Spur zerl. (Aphe-T Sd) 0,148 kg 830m/s 2,4g Pent 37mm/10m

NOTE: Against ground and air targets. Soft and armored.
It does NOT have a fuze, the filler is for self destruction, in game it would also explode upon impact when shattering, like the Japanese 30mm Aphe.
(Velocity for L/55 is 800.)
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Pzgr. 40 L`Spur. o.Zerl. (HVAP-T) 0,100kg 1050m/s 62g core 12x45mm 50mm/10m

Note: Only used against heavy armored targets, where the standard Ap ammo does not penetrate.
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He:


Sprgr. L`Spur. m.Zerl. (Hefi-T Sd.) 0,120kg 900m/s 6,2g Pent (10,54g) 5mm/10m

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Sprgr. Erd. o.L'Spur. o.Zerl. (He) 0,120kg 900m/s 11g Pent (18,7g)

Note: Only against ground targets.
(Couldn’t find the correct drawing, the Br.Sprgr. o.L’Spur is basically the same, just different filler with Zink.
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The Vehicle:
2 Drivers (forward an backwards)

Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 30 mm (40°) Front plate
15 mm (70°), 30 mm (55°) Front glacis
30 mm (35°) Lower glacis 8 mm (34-35°) Top
8 (19-35°) + 4 mm 10 mm (21-46°) 5 mm
Turret 14,5mm ( 360° Shield)
14,5mm - 30 mm (or more, see picture) Superstructure

Speed forward / back

AB 100 / 100 km/h

RB and SB 90 / 90 km/h

Number of gears 7 forward

7 back

Weight 11.5 t

Engine power

AB 401 hp

RB and SB 210 hp

Power-to-weight ratio

AB 34.9 hp/t

RB and SB 18.3 hp/t

Source:
Private Collection
The American Report
Munition der 2 cm Waffen
Sd.Kfz.234/3 Manual
Anleitung der 2 cm Schwebelafette

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I dont understand what kind of weapons it carries apart from the MG

A 2 cm KwK/Flak 38 L/65.

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oh ok, it just looked really odd in the image :) I guess its just the mount, that is left?

Love the sd.Kfz.234 variants, big fan!

Only the Barrle and sights are missing.

  • +1 in techtree as a poor man’s version of the 234/1
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I suppose thats a fitting title. XD

picture please?

Of what?

Was there a similar mount for a 37 mm weapon or is this text caption incorrect?:

I have never heared of it, sry. Also im pretty shure that wouldnt even remotely fit? Aside from the recoil length the 3,7 cm Flak is huge, especially for such a 1 person mount. The gun is balanced and elevated by the gunners weight, i dont think such would work with a 371 kg gun?