Chilean Ground Forces Sub-tree

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Chilean Ground Forces Sub-tree

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Chilean Leopard 2A4CHL using a mobile camouflage system from the Isareli company Fibrotex

This suggestion is a complement to the previous 3 suggestions I have made that are the Chilean air, naval and Helicopter subtree for Israel, for the history and details please check out the other 3 suggestions within the forum.

History between Chile and Israel

During the 1970s Chile was going through very tense moments with its 3 neighbors (Argentina, Bolivia and Peru) that had territorial claims and like Israel at the time Chile was politically alone and surrounded by belligerent countries and because Chile was under the government of Dictator Augusto Pinochet accused of crimes against humanity, the country was under an embargo on military purchases. Chile was interested in buying European tanks but no country was willing to sell weapons to Chile for fear of losing its good relations with the United States.

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M-51 Super Sherman in Chile being shown to the Chilean people once they arrived in the country

This is how Chile turned to Israel, which accepted the request for help. Thus, in 1977, Chile and Israel signed a contract for the purchase of various Israeli tanks, M-51 and M-50 Super Shermans arriving in Chile (both models would later be modified in Chile), and many 60mm IMI HVMS cannons were purchased, Chile being its only user and arming the M24 Chaffee and M-50 with this powerful anti-tank cannon, in this way experienced Israeli instructors traveled to Chile to train the Chilean crews, and created a new doctrine for the Chilean armored forces.

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M24 HVMS Super Chaffee modified with the Israeli IMI HVMS gun

In the air field, Israel was also willing to sell the Shafrir II Air-to-Air Missiles to Chile, which would be the main air means to be able to confront the fighters of Chile’s neighbors and installing these missiles on the Hawker Hunter and F-5 Tiger II that in those years were the best fighters in Chile. Fortunately, the almost wars that were going to occur, mainly with Argentina, were resolved diplomatically at the last second.

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Commander of the Israeli Ground Forces, Major General Yaacov Barak with the Commander-in-Chief of the Chilean Army, General Ricardo Martínez, year 2018

After these historic events, Chile would not forget the help that Israel gave it in difficult times, which is why they continued to cooperate in the field of military purchases and modifications, mainly in Chilean fighters. Currently, a large amount of Chilean military equipment is made up of Israeli weapons (assault rifles, missiles, howitzers, mortars, rocket artillery, military vehicles) and an agreement was signed between both countries to expand defense cooperation.

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Lieutenant General Aviv Kochavi of Israel with the Minister of Defense of Chile Baldo Prokurica, year 2021

As a curiosity within the game there is a Chilean camouflage for one of Israel’s tanks, specifically the premium M-51, so there is already a link between the two countries in the game.

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Disclaimers:

  • Not necessarily all the vehicles from the following list must be added, they can be chosen according to the convenience of the tree in which it would be implemented and moved as necessary. It was ordered in the best way I found possible.
  • The BR of this tree represent the realistic game mode.
  • Some data may not be 100% accurate, also some sources may contradict in some aspects such as technical specifications, basically I did what I could with what I found, if anyone has more information I would appreciate it if you share it in the comments section.

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The Chilean Sub-Tree Implemented in the Israeli Tree Expanded to Rank 1

(Israel’s new I-III tanks are part of the forum suggestion made by @CaID and the image shows what the new Israel tree could look like with those new tanks and with the Chilean sub-tree.)

Vehicle list:

Rank 1

White M3A1

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  • Description:
    • Half-track of American origin widely used in the Second World War to transport troops, in 1943 12 of these vehicles arrived in Chile, they had up to 3 machine guns, 2 .30 machine guns in the rear and the main one being the Browning M2HB .50 machine gun in the front where it was operated by a gunner. which could rotate it 360° thanks to a special support.
  • Year:
    • 1943
  • Crew:
    • 3 (Commander, Gunner, Driver)
  • Armament:
    • Primary: 1x .50 Browning M2HB machine gun, 2x .30 Browning M1919A4 machine guns
  • Dimensions:
    • Length: 6.16 m
    • Width: 2.22 m
    • Height: 2.38 m
    • Weight: 7.7 t
  • Maneuverability:
    • Engine: White 160AX 147 hp
    • Suspension: spring package (front) bogie (rear)
    • Max. Speed: 72 - 80 km/h
  • Armor:
    • 12.7 mm front, 6 mm engine cover, 6.35 mm side
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M8 Greyhound

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  • Description:
    • In 1953, Chile received five M8 units that served in the Mechanized School, becoming one of the first military vehicles to serve in Chile along with the M3 Stuart. Same as the one found in the game.
  • Year:
    • 1953
  • Crew:
    • 4 (driver, commander/radio, gunner, loader)
  • Armament:
    • Primary: 37 mm (1.46 in) M6 QF AT gun
    • Secondary: cal.50 (12.7 mm) and cal.30 (7.62 mm) Browning M1919
  • Dimensions:
    • Length: 5m
    • Width: 2.53m
    • Height: 2.23m
    • Weight: 8.6 short tons (7.8 tons)
  • Maneuverability:
    • Engine: Hercules JXD 6-cyl gasoline, 110 hp (82 kW)
    • Suspension: 6x6 individual leaf spring
    • Max. Speed: 56 mph (90 km/h)
    • Range: 560 km at medium speed (350 mi)
  • Sources:

Carden-Loyd Mk.VI

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  • Description:
    • It arrived in Chile in 1936, delivering five units to the School of Infantry Application. This vehicle, despite not being considered a real tank, was the first motorized vehicle of this type to arrive in Chile. According to the uniforms of the Chilean military in the photo, it would correspond to 1949, since that was the time when that uniform was used. The .303 Vickers machine gun was replaced by what I deduce is a 37mm M3 or M6 cannon that was removed from some M3A1 Stuart or M8 Greyhound that were in the Chilean inventory in those years. There are some pages that mention that it is an M-18 57mm recoilless rifle, but this is impossible since the aesthetics do not match and that armament was not in the Chilean inventory.
  • Year:
    • 1949
  • Crew:
    • 2 (Commander, Driver)
  • Armament:
    • Primary: 37mm M3 or M6 cannon
  • Dimensions:
    • Length: 2.46 m
    • Width: 1.75m
    • Height: 1.22m
    • Weight: 1.5t
  • Maneuverability:
    • Engine: Ford T 40hp
    • Speed: 40km/h
    • Weight/power: 26.6 hp/t
    • Suspension: bogie
    • Autonomy: 140 km
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M3A1 Stuart

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  • Description:
    • A first batch of 12 M3A1 tanks arrived in Chile during 1943. The M3A1 tank was the first tank of the Chilean Army. Later, between 1944-1945, new batches of tanks were sent to Armored Detachment No. 1 in Iquique. These tanks were the first real entry into the world of tanks for Chile. Same as the one found in the game.
  • Year:
    • 1943
  • Crew:
    • 4 (Commandant, Driver, Gunner, Loader)
  • Armament:
    • Primary: 37 mm M6 gun with 174 rounds
    • Secondary: 2 x .30 Browning M1919A4
  • Dimensions:
    • Length: 4.5m
    • Width: 2.46m
    • Height: 2.3m
    • Weight: 14.7t
  • Maneuverability:
    • Engine: Continental W-670-9A, 7-cylinder radial, 250hp
    • Max. Speed: 58 km/h roads, 30 km/h offroad
    • Weight/power: 17.82 hp/t
    • Suspension: VVSS (Vertical Volute Spring Suspension)
    • Autonomy: 120 km
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Rank 2

Sherman M4A1E9

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  • Description:
    • In 1952, a total of 17 Sherman tanks of the M4A1E9 version with a radial engine, which ran on 100/110 octane white gasoline, arrived in Chile. They were updated, rebuilt and modernized by Chrysler. Part of the process was the installation of the so-called “spaced suspension”, which gave them the E9 designation. Grouser extenders were installed to increase track width. The E9 modification included wider track protective fenders and “fender clamps”, they also had additional armor on the sides that can be easily seen from the outside (where the ammunition magazines are located), on the right side of the mantlet (protecting to the gunner and commander). They were in service for some decades in Chile. They were finally decommissioned in the 1970s. Special variant not found in the game.
  • Year:
    • 1952
  • Crew:
    • 5 (Commander, Driver, Gunner, Loader, Radioman)
  • Armament:
    • Primary: 75 mm gun M3 L/40, with 90 rounds
    • Secondary: .50 Browning HB machine gun, 2 × .30 Browning M1919A4 machine guns
  • Dimensions:
    • Length: 5.84m
    • Width: 2.62m
    • Height: 2.74m
    • Weight: 30.3 t
  • Maneuverability:
    • Engine: Continental R975 Cl 350 hp radial
    • Max. Speed: 38.5km/h
    • Weight/power: 15.8 hp/t
    • Suspension: VVSS (Vertical Volute Spring Suspension)
    • Autonomy: 193 km
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Rank 3

Cardoen Piraña 6x6 TCM-20

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  • Description:
    • Mowag Piranha built under license in Chile by Cardoen industries, this version has 2 HS.404 automatic cannons better known as TCM-20 of Israeli origin for anti-aircraft defense. It could be the direct continuation of Israel’s TCM-20 since it represents an improvement in speed and protection of the crew as it is a completely closed vehicle that withstands low-caliber shots.
  • Year:
    • 1980
  • Crew:
    • 4 (driver, gunner, loader, commander)
  • Armament:
    • Primary: Two 20 mm HS.404 automatic cannons
  • Dimensions:
    • Length: 5.97 m
    • Width: 2.5 m
    • Height: 1.85 m (without weapons)
    • Weight: Total combat weight: 10.500 kg, plus the weight of the guns 1.350 kg (with two loaded magazines)
  • Maneuverability:
    • Engine: Detroit diesel 6V-53T, 300 hp at 2800 rpm
    • Max. speed on roads: 100 km/h
    • Speed in water: 10.5 km/h
    • Additional system: Amphibious capability.
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M24 Repotenciado

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  • Description:
    • Chile received its 21 M24 Chaffees in 1952, later these M24s were modified, a mount for an extra 7.62 mm Browning M1919 machine gun was added to the roof of the tank operable by the loader. At the end of 1978, the joint MACO-Detroit Diesel project was chosen and the 21 M24 Chaffee engines were repowered by the Detroit Diesel 6V53T, a 6-cylinder turbodiesel that developed 275 HP at 2,800 rpm and weighed 770 kg. The engine platform was modified and received more air vents. Added a new radio station of unknown model with a new antenna. The hydraulic automatic transmission was replaced by an Allison HT 700 5-speed automatic transmission (5 forward gears and 1 reverse gear). The maximum speed increased slightly to around 60 km/h, while the weight increased from 18.4 to 19 tons. Chilean version of the M24 with extra machine gun, better engine and more maximum speed than the one in the game.
  • Year:
    • 1978
  • Crew:
    • 5 (Commander, gunner, loader, driver, bow-gunner)
  • Armament:
    • Primary: 75 mm M6 gyro-stabilized gun, with 48 shells
    • Secondary: x.50 Browning HB in cupola, Browning M1919 7.62mm machine gun in cupola, .30 Browning M1919A4 coaxial
  • Dimensions:
    • Length: 5,56 m
    • Width: 3 m
    • Height: 2,77 m
    • Weight: battle ready 19 tons.
  • Maneuverability:
    • Engine: Detroit Diesel 6V53T, a 6-cylinder turbo-diesel, 275 hp at 2,800 rpm
    • Max. speed: 60 km/h
    • Suspension: torsion bars
    • Autonomy: 350 km
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Cardoen BMS-1 Alacrán

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  • Description:
    • Half-track infantry vehicle developed and built in Chile in 1983 by Cardoen industries, it was the last half-track built in the world and was capable of surpassing its half-track predecessors in mobility. It was not a sales success so it was not mass produced. The only version built has a 70 mm LAU-97 rocket launcher. Although it can fire rockets with better penetration for balance reasons we will limit it to FZ100 rockets with only 105 mm penetration.
  • Year:
    • 1983
  • Crew:
    • 3 (Commander, Gunner, Driver)
  • Armament:
    • Primary: LAU-97 70mm rocket launcher, 40 rockets (FZ-100 6.2 kg cargo warhead capable of penetrating up to 105 mm of conventional steel armour plate, FZ-71 4.3 kg anti-personnel which forms more than 8,000 fragments on detonation and is lethal to between 18 and 21 m radius)
    • Secondary: Browning 12.7mm or 7.62 mm machine gun
  • Dimensions:
    • Length: 6.37 m
    • Width: 2.38 m
    • Height: 2 m (without armament)
    • Weight: 10.5 ton combat weight
  • Maneuverability:
    • Engine: Cummins V-555 turbo-charged diesel developing 225 hp at 3000 rpm
    • Transmission: Allison MT-653 automatic. 5 forward and 1 reverse gears
    • Max. speed: 70 km/h
    • Power to weight ratio: 22 hp/ton
    • Fuel capacity: 350 litres
    • Max range: 900 km
    • Fording: 1.6 m
    • Slope: 70%
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Rank 4

M-51 Repotenciado

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  • Description:
    • Israeli M-51 that were sold to Chile and later modernized, the engine was changed to a new Detroit diesel 8V-71T of 475 hp engine that increased the maximum speed to 41 km/h, which improved its ability to climb steep slopes. The engine platform was modified and a new exhaust outlet was installed for the engine, an improved periscope was added for the driver, the MSZ-2 fire control system was added that had a laser rangefinder for the gunner, a special support for minesweepers that also acted as additional armor on the front of the tank.
  • Year:
    • 1990
  • Crew:
    • 5 (Commander, gunner, loader, driver, bow-gunner)
  • Armament:
    • Primary: 105 mm gun L.51 D.1508 with 47 rounds
    • Secondary: Coaxial Browning M1919 7.62 mm machine gun with 4750 rounds, Browning M1919 7.62 mm machine gun or Browning M2HB 12.7 mm machine with 600 rounds gun on top. Four 76mm smoke grenade launcher.
  • Dimensions:
    • Length: 6.15 m
    • Width: 2.42 m
    • Height: 2.24 m
    • Weight: 40 tons battle ready
  • Maneuverability:
    • Engine: Detroit diesel 8V-71T, 475 hp
    • Max. speed: 41 km/h
    • Suspensions: Horizontal Volute Springs Suspensions (HVSS)
  • Armour:
    • 63 mm frontal hull, 38 mm sides and rear, 19 mm top and bottom. 89 mm mantlet, 73 mm front, sides and rear of the turret.
  • Accessories:
    • laser rangefinder
    • RKM mineroller
    • Additional front armor plate
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Cardoen VTP-2 Escarabajo

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  • Description:
    • Infantry transport vehicle designed and built in Chile by Cardoen Industries in 1982, it had a 20 mm Oerlikon KAA automatic cannon intended for anti-aircraft defense, other variants were proposed but never built.
  • Year:
    • 1982
  • Crew:
    • 3 (commander, gunner, driver)
  • Armament:
    • Primary: GAD-AOA turret with an Oerlikon KAA 20-mm Autocannon
  • Dimensions:
    • Length: 5.27m
    • Width: 2.3m
    • Height: 2.18m
    • Weight: 7.6 tons (combat weight)
  • Maneuverability:
    • Engine: Mercedes-Benz OM-352 6-cylinder water-cooled diesel developing 120 hp at 2800 rpm
    • Transmission: Manual, 8 forward and 4 reverse gears
    • Max. speed: 100 km/h
    • Fuel capacity: 150 litres
    • Max range: 600 km
    • Gradient: 70%
    • Side slope: 35%
    • Vertical obstacle: 0.5 m
    • Turning radius: 6.45 m
    • Clutch: single dry plate
    • Transfer case: 2-speed
    • Steering: hydraulic
    • Tyres: 12.5 x20 bulletproof
    • Number of tyres: 4
    • Brakes: main, disc on all 4 wheels; parking, mechanical on rear 2 wheels
  • Armour:
    • Steel 8 mm
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Cardoen Piraña 6x6 KAA

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  • Description:
    • Mowag Piranha built under license in Chile by Cardoen industries, this version uses a 20 mm Oerlikon KAA automatic cannon for anti-aircraft defense. Great mobility and excellent capacity for shots per minute.
  • Year:
    • 1980
  • Crew:
    • 3 (commander, gunner and driver)
  • Armament:
    • Primary: GAD-AOA turret with an Oerlikon KAA 20-mm Autocannon
  • Dimensions:
    • Length: 5.97m
    • Width: 2.5m
    • Height: 1.85m (without weapons)
    • Weight: 10.5 t (vehicle) + 1055 kg (turret and gun)
  • Maneuverability :
    • Engine: Detroit diesel 6V-53T, 300 hp at 2800 rpm
    • Max. speed on roads: 100 km/h
    • Speed in water: 10.5 km/h
    • Additional system: amphibious capability.
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M113A2 ABL KUKA

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  • Description:
    • M113A2 modified in Chile to carry a GBD-AOA (KUKA) turret with an Oerlikon KBA-B 25mm autocannon, this cannon allows it to confront aircraft flying at low altitude or other vehicles with little armor, smoke launchers were also installed for self-defense.
  • Year:
    • 2003
  • Crew:
    • 3 (Commander, Gunner, Driver)
  • Armament:
    • Primary: GBD-AOA (KUKA) turret with an Oerlikon KBA-B 25mm autocannon (570 rounds per minute)
    • Secondary: 2 × Wegmann 76mm quadruple smoke launchers
  • Dimensions:
    • Length: 4.8m
    • Width: 2.6m
    • Height: 2.5m
    • Weight: Combat weight 11.200 kg, plus 930 kg including turret, gun and ammunition
  • Maneuverability:
    • Engine: Detroit Diesel 6V-53T with 6 cylinders that develops a power of 275 CV at 2,800 rpm.
    • Maximum speed: 60.7 km/h.
    • Power/weight: 18.51 hp/t.
    • Suspension: torsion bars.
    • Transmission: Allison TX-100-1A automatic with three forward gears and one reverse.
    • Fuel capacity: 360 liters.
    • Autonomy: 480 kilometers.
    • Slope: 60%
    • Side slope: 30%
    • Vertical obstacle: 0.6 meters.
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Cardoen Piraña 6x6 KUKA

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  • Description:
    • Mowag Piranha built under license in Chile by Cardoen Industries, this version has a GBD-AOA (KUKA) turret with a 25 mm Oerlikon KBA-B automatic cannon, in Chile this variant is used as an anti-aircraft vehicle thanks to its high rate of fire being able to shoot down airplanes or helicopters that fly at low altitude and also as an anti-armor vehicle since it has ammunition with up to 80 mm penetration. As self-protection measures, it has two launchers with four smoke grenades of 76 mm each.
  • Year:
    • 1980
  • Crew:
    • 4 (Commander, Gunner, Loader, Driver)
  • Armament:
    • Primary: GBD-AOA (KUKA) turret with an Oerlikon KBA-B 25mm autocannon (570 rounds per minute)
    • Secondary: Two launchers with four 76mm smoke grenades each
  • Dimensions:
    • Length: 5.97m
    • Width: 2.5m
    • Height: 1.85m (without weapons)
    • Weight: Total combat weight: 10.500 kg, plus 930 kg including turret, gun and ammunition
  • Maneuverability :
    • Engine: Detroit diesel 6V-53T, 300 hp at 2800 rpm
    • Max. speed on roads: 100 km/h
    • Speed in water: 10.5 km/h
    • Additional system: amphibious capability.
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EE-9 M2 (ET-90 I) Cascavel

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  • Description:
    • In 1975, the EE-9 Cascavel armored combat vehicles of Brazilian manufacture arrived in Chile. In those years, they far exceeded the anti-tank capacity of the old Chilean tanks, so they were used as tank destroyers. Two versions of this vehicle arrived in Chile, one of them being the version equipped with an ET-90 I turret armed with an EC-90 cannon, which was a 90 mm Cockerill Mk.3 gun manufactured under license in Brazil.
  • Year:
    • 1975
  • Crew:
    • 3 (Commander, Gunnder, Driver)
  • Armament:
    • Primary: ET-90 I turret with the 90 mm EC-90 gun
    • Secondary: 7.62mm coaxial machine gun, 6 smoke launchers
  • Dimensions:
    • Length: 6.22 m
    • Width: 2.59 m
    • Height: 2.3 m
    • Weight: 11 t
  • Maneuverability:
    • Engine: OM352 or OM352A engines
    • Max. speed: 100 km/h
  • Armour:
    • 16 - 8 mm
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FV101 Scorpion

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  • Description:
    • Light tank of British origin, in Chile it began to operate in 1993 with the Marine Corps, later in 2008 Spain sold a batch of these vehicles to Chile at a symbolic price but which differs from the original in that the new FV101 Scorpion were repowered with the new 200 HP Perkins T6/3544 six-cylinder diesel engine, they also have a laser rangefinder, night vision scopes and electronic calculator.
  • Year:
    • 2008
  • Crew:
    • 3 (driver, gunner and commander)
  • Armament:
    • Primary: BAE Land Systems L23A1 76mm low-pressure gun
    • Secondary: FN MAG L37A2 on top, 7.62 x 51mm L43A1 coaxial machine gun and two quadruple smoke launchers.
  • Dimensions:
    • Length: 4.7m
    • Width: 2.2m
    • Height: 2.1 m
    • Weight: Combat weight 8 tons
  • Maneuverability:
    • Engine: Perkins T6/3544, six-cylinder diesel, 200 hp
    • Max. speed: 80km/hr
    • Power to weight ratio: 23.54 bhp/ton
    • Transmission: semi-automatic with seven forward and seven reverse gears
    • Autonomy: 900 kilometers
    • Suspension: torsion bars
    • Wading capacity: 1 meter
    • Vertical obstacle: 0.5 meters
    • Horizontal obstacle: 2 meters
    • Slope: 45%
    • Side slope: 31%
    • Rolling: Tractor tracks with five rolling wheels on each side, rear idler wheel and front drive wheel
  • Accessories:
    • Laser rangefinder
    • Night vision
    • Electronic calculator
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M41A1 Walker Bulldog

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  • Description:
    • The first M41 Walker Bulldogs arrived in Chile in 1964 in the A1 variant and with a total of 10, through the PAM (Military Aid Pact), later in 1970 40 more units of this tank were received between versions A1 and A3. Same as present in the game.
  • Year:
    • 1970
  • Crew:
    • 4 (Commander, Driver, Loader, Gunner)
  • Armament:
    • Primary: 76 mm M32 gun
    • Secondary: .50 Browning HB on top, coaxial .30 Browning M1919A4
  • Dimensions:
    • Length: 8.21 m (5.81m without gun)
    • Width: 3.2 m
    • Height: 3.07 m
    • Weight: battle ready 23.5 tons
  • Maneuverability:
    • Engine: Continental AOS 895-3, 6 opposed cylinders of 500 hp, air cooled
    • Max. speed: 72 km/h
    • Suspensions: Torsion bars
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M41 Repotenciado

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M24 HVMS Super Chaffee

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  • Description:
    • Chilean M24 armed with the Israeli IMI HVMS 60 mm cannon capable of firing APFSDS-T ammunition, mount for an extra 7.62 mm Browning M1919 machine gun, new Detroit Diesel 6V-53T engine, new Allison HT 700 5-speed automatic transmission, new fire control system and new gyro stabilizer. The weight increased to 22 tons.
  • Year:
    • 1983
  • Crew:
    • 5 (Commander, gunner, loader, driver, bow-gunner)
  • Armament:
    • Primary: 60 mm IMI HVMS (Hyper Velocity Medium Support) Gun
    • Secondary: .50 Browning HB in cupola, Browning M1919 7.62mm machine gun in cupola, .30 Browning M1919A4 coaxial
  • Dimensions:
    • Length: 7.06m
    • Width: 3m
    • Height: 2.77m
    • Weight: battle ready 22 tons
  • Maneuverability:
    • Engine: Detroit diesel 6V-53T, 250 hp
    • Max. speed: 60 km/h
    • Suspension: torsion bars
    • Autonomy: 350 km
  • Armour:
    • 25 mm frontal and sides hull and 19 mm rear. 38 mm mantlet, 25 mm front, sides and rear of the turret.
  • Sources:

G6

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Rank 5

YPR-765

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  • Description:
    • Dutch infantry fighting vehicle which is an improved M113, it is also known as the Armored Infantry Fighting Vehicle (AIFV) but in Netherlands it was called YPR-765. It has a 25 mm Oerlikon KBA-B02 automatic cannon, this cannon allows it to confront aircraft flying at low altitude or other vehicles with little armor, has two turret-mounted triple smoke grenade launchers, It also has additional armor.
  • Year:
    • 2006
  • Crew:
    • 3 (driver, gunner and commander, plus seven soldiers.)
  • Armament:
    • Primary: Turret and Oerlikon KBA-B02 25mm autocannon (570 rounds per minute)
    • Secondary: two turret-mounted triple smoke grenade launchers.
  • Dimensions:
    • Length: 5.2m
    • Width: 2.8m
    • Height: 2.7m
    • Weight: Combat weight 13.6 tons
  • Maneuverability:
    • Engine: Detroit Diesel 6V-53T that develops a power of 264 hp at 2,800 rpm
    • Top speed: 61.2km/hr
    • Transmission: Allison TX-100-1A automatic with three forward gears and one reverse
    • Power to Weight Ratio: 13.69
    • Suspension: torsion bars
    • Fuel capacity: 416 liters
    • Autonomy: 490 kilometers
    • Slope: 60%
    • Side slope: 30%
    • Vertical obstacle: 0.6 meters
    • Ditch clearance: 1.6 meters
    • Rolling: Tractor tracks with five rolling wheels on each side, rear idler wheel and front drive wheel
  • Sources:

Ail Storm 106mm

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EE-9 M2 (HS-90) Cascavel

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  • Description:
    • In 1975, the EE-9 Cascavel armored combat vehicles of Brazilian manufacture arrived in Chile. In those years, they far exceeded the anti-tank capacity of the old Chilean tanks, so they were used as tank destroyers. Two versions of this vehicle arrived in Chile, one of them being the version equipped with an HS-90 turret armed with an 90 mm DEFA D-921 gun.
  • Year:
    • 1975
  • Crew:
    • 3 (Commander, Gunner, Driver)
  • Armament:
    • Primary: HS-90 turret with the 90 mm DEFA D-921 gun
    • Secondary: 7.62 mm N model F-1 coaxial machine gun, 4 smoke launchers
  • Dimensions:
    • Length: 6.22 m
    • Width: 2.59 m
    • Height: 2.3 m
    • Weight: 11 t
  • Maneuverability:
    • Engine: OM352 or OM352A engines
    • Max. speed: 100 km/h
  • Armour:
    • 16 - 8 mm
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M-50 HVMS Super Sherman

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  • Description:
    • M-50 purchased from Israel by Chile and armed with the Israeli IMI HVMS 60 mm cannon capable of firing APFSDS-T ammunition, in Chile they were modified to have a semi-automatic reloading system that allowed it to fire 12 shots per minute, new Detroit diesel 8V-71T of 475 hp engine , new engine platform and new exhaust outlet, new periscope with light intensifier for the commander for night missions, new rotating periscope for the driver, new fire control system MSZ-2 for the gunner that has a laser rangefinder. All these improvements made it the most powerful Sherman ever operated.
  • Year:
    • 1983
  • Crew:
    • 5 (Commander, gunner, loader, driver, bow-gunner)
  • Armament:
    • Primary: 60 mm IMI HVMS (Hyper Velocity Medium Support) Gun, 12 shots per minute
    • Secondary: Coaxial .30 Cal (7.62mm) machine gun, .30 Cal (7.62mm) machine gun on top
  • Dimensions:
    • Length: 6.15 m
    • Width: 2.42 m
    • Height: 2.24 m
    • Weight: 35 Tons (32 tonnes) Total weight, battle ready
  • Maneuverability:
    • Engine: Detroit diesel 8V-71T, 475 hp
    • Max. speed: 41 km/h
    • Suspensions: Horizontal Volute Springs Suspensions (HVSS)
  • Armour:
    • Hull nose and turret 70, sides 40, bottom 15, rooftop 15 mm
  • Accessories:
    • simple vertical breech block system that allowed for a rate of fire of 12 shots per minute
    • periscope with light intensifier
    • Laser Rangefinder
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Marder 1A3 SLM

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Cardoen Piraña 6x6 LAU-97

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  • Description:
    • Mowag Piranha built under license in Chile by Cardoen industries, this version was fitted with a LAU-97 rocket launcher capable of firing up to 40 FZ49 rockets that penetrate up to 350 mm of armor, which gives this version great anti-tank capability.
  • Year:
    • 1980
  • Crew:
    • 3 (driver, gunner, commander)
  • Armament:
    • Primary: LAU-97 70mm rocket launcher, 40 rockets (FZ-100 6.2 kg cargo warhead capable of penetrating up to 105 mm of conventional steel armour plate, FZ-49 3 kg anti-armour capable of piercing more than 350 mm of conventional steel armour plate, FZ-71 4.3 kg anti-personnel which forms more than 8,000 fragments on detonation and is lethal to between 18 and 21 m radius)
  • Dimensions:
    • Length: 5.97 m
    • Width: 2.5 m
    • Height: 1.85 m (without weapons)
    • Weight: Total combat weight: 10.500 kg, plus the weight of the rocket launcher
  • Maneuverability:
    • Engine: Detroit diesel 6V-53T, 300 hp at 2800 rpm
    • Max. speed on roads: 100 km/h
    • Speed in water: 10.5 km/h
    • Additional system: Amphibious capability.
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FAMAE Piraña 8x8 CSE 90LP

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  • Description:
    • Mowag Piranha built under license in Chile by Famae, this 8x8 version uses a CSE 90LP turret with a Cockerill MK III cannon capable of firing APFSDS-T ammunition, has a laser rangefinder and ballistics computer.
  • Year:
    • 1983
  • Crew:
    • 3 (driver, gunner, commander)
  • Armament:
    • Primary: Cockerill 90 mm Mk III gun (APFSDS-T, HEAT-T, HESH-T, HE-T)
    • Secondary: 7.62 mm MG coaxial, 7.62 mm MG anti-aircraft. 2 octuple smoke grenade launchers
  • Dimensions:
    • Length: 6.37 m
    • Width: 2.5 m
    • Height: 1.85 m (without weapons)
    • Weight: Total combat weight: 13.000 kg, plus the weight of the turret 2100 kg with ammunition
  • Maneuverability:
    • Engine: Detroit diesel 6V-53T, 275 hp at 2800 rpm
    • Max. speed on roads: 100 km/h
  • Accesories:
    • Wide range of sight and fire control system options, Day/night (I2 or TI)
    • Laser range finder
    • Ballistic computer
  • Sources:

FAMAE Piraña 6x6 HVMS

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AMX-30B

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  • Description:
    • AMX-30B purchased under threat of war with Chile’s neighboring countries, 50 were purchased but only 20 would arrive due to the military government that existed in Chile at that time, so the rest were requisitioned, in later years the rest of the pending AMX-30Bs were delivered by France, this new batch of AMX-30Bs had an easily visible infrared reflector in the front of the turret on the side of the 20 mm cannon.
  • Year:
    • 1980
  • Crew:
    • 4 (commander, gunner, loader and driver)
  • Armament:
    • Primary: 105 mm CN-105-F1 cannon, 47 rounds
      • Reload: 6.7 s
      • Vertical guidance: -8° / 20°
    • Secondary: 20 mm 20F2 automatic cannon (coaxial) 1000 rounds, 7.62 mm A-A-F1N machine gun 2100 rounds, 4 x 76mm smoke grenade launchers
  • Dimensions:
    • Length: 9.5 m with gun, 6.6 m hull
    • Width: 3.1 m
    • Height: 2.8 m
    • Weight: 36.0 t
  • Maneuverability :
    • Engine: Hispano-Suiza HS-110 diesel 720 hp
    • Max. speed: 66 km/h
  • Accessories:
    • Night vision device
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Cardoen Piraña 6x6 (HS-90)

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  • Description:
    • Mowag Piranha built under license in Chile by Cardoen industries, in this version the turret and cannon of the AML-90 were installed.
  • Year:
    • 1980
  • Crew:
    • 3 (driver, gunner, commander)
  • Armament:
    • Primary: 90 mm DEFA F1 cannon
    • Secondary: 7.62 mm A-A-F1N machine gun (coaxial)
  • Dimensions:
    • Length: 5.97 m
    • Width: 2.5 m
    • Height: 1.85 m (without weapons)
    • Weight: Total combat weight: 10.500 kg, plus the weight of the turret and the cannon
  • Maneuverability:
    • Engine: Detroit diesel 6V-53T, 300 hp at 2800 rpm
    • Max. speed on roads: 100 km/h
    • Speed in water: 10.5 km/h
    • Additional system: Amphibious capability.
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Grenadier MRS-80

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  • Description:
    • Mowag Grenadier model acquired by Chile in 1978 under the threat of a war with Argentina, this variant for Chile was unique as it had 2 Oerlikon Typ 3Z 8Dla launchers capable of launching anti-tank grenades, its low profile and size made it perfect for ambushes.
  • Year:
    • 1978
  • Crew:
    • 2 (driver, commander)
  • Armament:
    • Primary: 2x Oerlikon Typ 3Z 8Dla launcher
  • Dimensions:
    • Length: 4.84 m
    • Width: 2.3 m
    • Height: 2.12 m
    • Weight: 6.1 ton weight combat
  • Maneuverability:
    • Engine: 8-cylinder diesel; 202 hp at 3900 rpm
    • Max. speed: 100 km/h
    • Speed in water: 9 km/h
    • Additional system: Amphibious capability.
  • Armour:
    • 8 mm
  • Accessories:
    • Optional night vision equipment
  • Sources:
Rank 6

Gepard 1A1

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Cardoen Piraña 6x6 Blowpipe

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  • Description:
    • Mowag Piranha built under license in Chile by Cardoen industries, this version has a mix of anti-aircraft and anti-tank weapons, having 4 blowpipe missiles for anti-aircraft defense and 2 Mamba anti-tank missiles. This special variant was seen during military parades in Chile and due to its variety of weapons, it is quite versatile depending on the situation.
  • Year:
    • 1980
  • Crew:
    • 4 (driver, gunner, loader, commander)
  • Armament:
    • Primary: 4 blowpipe missiles for anti-aircraft defense
      • Type: two-stage low altitude
      • Weight of missile: 11 kg
      • Propulsion: dual-base solid propellant booster and sustainer rocket motors
      • Guidance: IR auto-gathering, then command to line-of-sight (MCLOS)
      • Warhead: 2.2 kg HE dual fragmentation shaped charge with impact and proximity fuzing
      • Max. speed: Mach 1.5 (1837 km/h, 510 m/s)
      • Max. effective range: about 3500 m
      • Min. effective range: about 700 m
      • Max. effective altitude: 2500 m
      • Min. effective altitude: 10 m
      • Launcher: manportable single round with grip-stock
    • Secondary: 2 Mamba anti-tank missiles
      • Mass: 11.2 kg (Mamba)
      • Length: 995 mm (Mamba)
      • Diameter: 120 mm (Mamba)
      • Effective firing range: 300 m to 2,000 m (Mamba)
      • Detonationmechanism: 2.5 kg HEAT or HEAT-fragmentation (Mamba)
      • Penetration: 350 mm
      • Maximum speed: 140 m/s (504 km/h)
      • Guidance system: MCLOS system
  • Dimensions:
    • Length: 5.97m
    • Width: 2.5m
    • Height: 1.85m (without weapons)
    • Weight: Total combat weight 10.500 kg
  • Maneuverability:
    • Engine: Detroit diesel 6V-53T, 300 hp at 2800 rpm
    • Max. speed on roads: 100 km/h
    • Speed in water: 10.5 km/h
    • Additional system: Amphibious capability.
  • Sources:

Peugeot P4 Aspic

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Cardoen Piraña 6x6 HJ-8

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  • Description:
    • Mowag Piranha built under license in Chile by Cardoen industries, this version carries 4 Chinese Red Arrow 8 anti-tank missiles, it is believed that only 1 prototype was built since information or photos of this variant can only be found in specialized books such as the from Jane.
  • Year:
    • 1980
  • Crew:
    • 5 (driver, a commander, a gunner, an ammunition man and a radio operator)
  • Armament:
    • Primary: Four Red Arrow 8 anti-tank missiles
      • Type: wire-guided SACLOS
      • Warhead: 3 kg
      • Range: 100-3000 m
      • Armour penetration: 800 mm
      • Speed: 200-220 m/s
    • Secondary: Two launchers with two 76mm smoke grenades each
  • Dimensions:
    • Length: 5.97m
    • Width: 2.5m
    • Height: 1.85m (without weapons)
    • Weight: Total combat weight: 10.500 kg
  • Maneuverability :
    • Engine: Detroit diesel 6V-53T, 300 hp at 2800 rpm
    • Max. speed on roads: 100 km/h
    • Speed in water: 10.5 km/h
    • Additional system: Amphibious capability.
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AIFV-B Spike

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  • Description:
    • Armored Infantry Fighting Vehicle based on the M113 chassis, it was sold to Chile by Belgium, it has additional frontal armor and Chile equipped it with the Israeli Spike LR anti-tank missile.
  • Year:
    • 2006
  • Crew:
    • 3 (driver, gunner and commander), plus seven soldiers.
  • Armament:
    • Primary: Spike LR missile
      • Range of fire: 200-4000 m
      • Flight Speed: 130-180 m/s
      • Armor-piermeable: 700 mm
      • Diameter TPK: 170 mm
      • Weight of the rocket in the TPC: 13.5 kg
      • Alert time: 30 s
      • Recharging time: 15 s
      • Temperature range of combat application: between -32 and +49 C
      • Storage Temperature: between -45 and +71 C
      • Missile length: 1.2m
      • Missile diameter: 0.11m
      • Warhead type: Tandem HEAT
      • Guidance: Infrared imaging
    • Secondary: 12.7 x 99mm machine gun, 2 triple smoke grenade launchers
  • Dimensions:
    • Length: 5.2m
    • Width: 2.8m
    • Height: 2.7m
    • Weight: Combat weight 13.6 tons
  • Maneuverability
    • Engine: Detroit Diesel 6V-53T that develops a power of 264 hp at 2,800 rpm
    • Top speed: 61.2km/hr
    • Power to Weight Ratio: 13.69
    • Transmission: Allison TX-100-1A automatic with three forward gears and one reverse
    • Fuel capacity: 416 liters
    • Autonomy: 490 kilometers
    • Slope: 60%
    • Side slope: 30%
    • Vertical obstacle: 0.6 meters
    • Ditch clearance: 1.6 meters
    • Rolling: Tractor tracks with five rolling wheels on each side, rear idler wheel and front drive wheel
    • Suspension: torsion bars
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Humvee Spike

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  • Description:
    • The Chilean army has used humvees for all kinds of tasks for at least 10 years, it has been seen carrying a 40 mm Mk-19 grenade launcher or a 12.7 x 99 mm Browning M2 HB heavy machine gun, but also the powerful long-range Israeli missile Spike ER mounted on the top of the vehicle, this configuration has been seen in military parades for several years and recently in 2022 a training was carried out in the northern area of Chile where the aimers of this missile achieved hit targets 8 km away. The vehicle is capable of carrying up to 4 missiles, inside the vehicle there are 2 receptacles that can house 2 missiles, and in the upper part of the vehicle there is another receptacle for an extra missile and the fourth missile is the one that is loaded in the launcher
  • Year:
    • 2022
  • Crew:
    • 4 (driver, gunner, plus 2 companions)
  • Armament:
    • Primary: Spike ER missile
      • Range of fire: 400-8000 m
      • Length: 1450 mm
      • Diameter: 150 mm
      • Wingspan: 400 mm
      • Weight of the rocket in the TPC: 33 kg
      • Guidance: IR
      • Flight speed: 180 m/s
      • Armor penetration: 1000 mm
  • Dimensions:
    • Length: 4.7m
    • Width: 2.12m
    • Height: 1.75m
    • Weight: Weight (curb) 2.34 t, Maximum load 1.25 t
  • Maneuverability:
    • Engine: Detroit Diesel 6.2-liter diesel
    • Engine power: 130 hp
    • Maximum road speed: 105 - 112 km/h
    • Range: over 500 km
    • Gradient: 60%
    • Side slope: 40%
    • Vertical step: 0.6 m
    • Trench: 0.5 m
    • Fording: 0.75 m
    • Fording (with preparation): 1.5 m
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Cardoen Piraña 6x6 LAHAT

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NZLAV

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Marder 1A3 Spike

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Leopard 1V

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  • Description:
    • In 1997, Chile acquired 202 Leopard 1V combat tanks belonging to the Netherlands. These had a series of improvements which were a hydraulic turret stabilization system from the manufacturer Honeywell, appliqué-type spaced armor on the tank tower from the German manufacturer Blohm + Voss, side skirts on the hull and the EMES-12A3 AFSL-2 fire control system produced by Honeywell and Zeiss (today Hensoldt), so after this improvement process they received the designation 1V of Verbeterd or Improved. Before being received by Chile, the Panzer-Ziel night image intensification system und Beobachtungsgerät PZB 200 from AEG-Telefunken was added, a search light was also added to the top of the tank. Currently these tanks use Israeli IMI M413 Hetz-7 (APFSDS-T), IMI M156 (HESH) ammunition and the LAHAT anti-tank missile was also tested. There is also evidence of the use of the multispectral blanket of the Israeli company Fibrotex.
  • Year:
    • 1997
  • Crew:
    • 4 (commander, gunner, ammunition man, driver).
  • Armament:
    • Primary: Royal Ordnance (now BAE Systems) 105mm L7A3 rifled gun.
      • Ammunition: 53 projectiles of 105 mm (APFSDS-T IMI M413 Hetz-7, HEP-T IMI M156) and 5,500 of 7.62 x 51 mm, launch of israeli LAHAT missile was tested
    • Secondary: 7.62 x 51mm FN Herstal MAG coaxial machine gun, 7.62 x 51mm FN Herstal MAG anti-aircraft machine gun and 2 x 76mm sextuple smoke launchers.
  • Dimensions:
    • Length: 9.54m
    • Width: 3.37m
    • Height: 2.62m
    • Weight: Total weight, battle ready 42 tons
  • Maneuverability:
    • Engine: MTU MB 838 CaM 500 10-cylinder polyfuel 830 hp at 2,200 rpm
    • Max. speed: 65 km/h
  • Accesories:
    • Fire control system: EMES-12A3 AFSL-2 by Hoynewell/Carl Zeiss (today Hensoldt)
    • NBC system: Yes
    • Night vision system: Panzer-Ziel und Beobachtungsgerät PZB 200 light intensifier from AEG-Telefunken
    • Barrel stabilization system: Electro-hydraulic
    • Laser rangefinder
  • Sources:
Rank 7

Crotale P4R

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  • Description:
    • Low-altitude surface-to-air missile system developed by France and South Africa. Chile acquired some of these launch systems during the 1970s in the face of a possible war with Argentina. It consists of a launch vehicle called P4R and has a single target tracking radar with a range of 17 km, the missiles fired are the Crotale R440 which are large and heavy but incredibly fast.
  • Year:
    • 1978
  • Crew:
    • 2 (gunner and driver)
  • Armament:
    • Primary: Four R440 Crotale missiles
      • Lenght: 2.89 m
      • Span: 0.54 m
      • Diameter: 0.15 m
      • Missile weight: 84 kg
      • Explosive mass: 15 kg HE
      • Lethal radius: 8 m
      • Activation: infra-red proximity fuze (the fuze is commanded to activate 350 m before interception) or backup contact fuze
      • Propulsion: SNPE Lens III rocket motor with 25.45 kg of solid propellant powder
      • Max. speed: 930 m/s in 2.8 seconds
  • Dimensions:
    • Length: 6.22 m
    • Width: 2.72 m
    • Height: 3.41 (max)
    • Weight: 14.95 ton combat weight
  • Maneuverability:
    • Engine: Specific creation of the Hotchkiss brand, Electric motor, Lift on hydraulic cylinders in position
    • Max. road speed: 70 km/h
    • Wheelbase: 3.6 m
    • Max. range: 600 km
    • Fording: 0.68 m
    • Gradient: 40% at 2 km/h, 10% at 25 km/h
    • Vertical obstacle: 0.3 m
  • Armour:
    • 3-5 mm
  • Sources:

Famae SLM

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Leopard 2A4 CHL

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  • Description:
    • In 2007 Chile bought 234 Leopard 2A4 tanks from Germany. The new tanks were given the CHL designation by their manufacturer KMW because they have a series of modifications, including a communications system from Elbit’s Tadiran company and the installation of a special kit on the turbochargers of the 12-cylinder MTU MB 873 Ka 501 4 engines , which allows them to operate without overheating problems at 4,300 meters above sea level. The Leopard 2A4CHL use in their 120 mm L/44 smoothbore guns HEAT DM 12 multipurpose ammunition, DM 33A2 and IM HE-T. They are currently in the process of modernization by Aselsan.
    • 2007
  • Crew:
    • 4 (Commander, Gunner, Loader, Driver)
  • Armament:
    • Primary: Rheinmetall 120mm L/44 smoothbore gun
      • HEAT DM 12, IM HE-T, KE DM 33 A2
    • Secondary: 7.62 x 51mm Rheinmetall MG-3 coaxial machine gun, 7.62 x 51mm Rheinmetall MG-3 anti-aircraft machine gun and 2 x 76mm Wegmann octuple smoke launchers.
  • Dimensions:
    • Length: 7.72m
    • Width: 3,7m
    • Height: 2.6m
    • Weight: combat weight 55 tons
  • Maneuverability:
    • Engine: MTU MB 873 Ka 501 4 12-cylinder polyfuel that develops a maximum power of 1,500 hp at 2,600 rpm
    • Max. speed: 68 km/h
    • Average ground speed: 51km/h
    • Power to weight ratio: 27.27 hp/ton
    • Transmission: Renk HSWL 354 with four forward and two reverse gears
    • Fuel capacity: 1,200 liters
    • Autonomy: 550 kilometers
    • Slope: 60%
    • Side slope: 30%
    • Vertical obstacle: 1 meter
    • Horizontal obstacle: 3 meters
    • Wading capacity: 2.25 meters
    • Suspension: torsion bars
  • Accessories:
    • NBC system: yes
    • Fire control system: EMES-15 from Atlas Electronics
    • Night vision system: WBG-X thermal camera from Carl Zeiss (today Hensoldt)
  • Sources:

Leopard 2A4 CHL (MCS)

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Rank 8

Leopard 2 CHL (Proaco)

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Chilean tank camouflages and decals:

White M3A1

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M8 Greyhound

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Carden-Loyd Mk.VI

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M3A1 Stuart

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M4A1E9

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M24 Repotenciado

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BMS-1 Alacrán

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Piraña 6x6 TCM-20

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M113A2 ABL KUKA

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Piraña 6x6 KUKA

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M-51 Repotenciado

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M41A1

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EE-9 M2 (ET-90 I)

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EE-9 M2 (HS-90)

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M24 HVMS

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YPR-765

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M-50 HVMS

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M41 Repotenciado

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AMX-30B

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Gepard 1A1

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AIFV-B Spike

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Leopard 1V

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Marder 1A3 Spike

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Leopard 2A4 CHL

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Thank you very much to see!!

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Easy +1 for Israel though I feel that a fourth line of Israeli vehicles should come before any subtrees. A Chilean subtree would also be good for allowing Israel to extend down to rank I.

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I have also always been in favor of integrating Israel’s I-III ranks, they still have quite a few vehicles to include and I think there are several from this sub tree that would do very well for Israel. thanks for the support.

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I want Israel to get a Rank 1-3 first, but I totally support this as well given the close partnership. It would also be fine in a future LatAm unified tree. +1 however it comes.

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Thank you so much bro

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You’re welcome!

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To be honesty this is exactly what Israel needs, loads of little Light Tanks for them does Chile have any IFVs or anything?

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Other then the Marder and the Bushmaster one

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Let’s say that right now Israel does not have many light tanks, it is a matter of looking at its tree, then it could be said that if they need them and Chile can give them to them and with the Israeli IMI HVMS cannon, with respect to the IFVs in the Chilean sub tree you have 4, the VTP-2 Escarabajo (which can serve as IFV or anti-aircraft), the Piraña 6x6 KUKA which has a 25 mm Oerlikon KBA cannon , the NZLAV and the Marder 1A3. I think 4 is fine, after all it is a subtree, not a complete tree. Now, if you think there is a nation that has more relationship in terms of vehicles with Israel than Chile, you can tell me.

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Turkey Maybe idk Probs more of a premium thing like how India is with Britain

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I believe that Turkey has enough unique vehicles of its own to have a complete separate tree, you can see it right here in the forum. In any case, I would be happy with Israel keeping Chile’s most important vehicles, that is, all those that have the IMI HVMS cannon, they would be very good additions for Israel.

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In the old forum, I proposed Argentina as a subtree in Israel some time ago. Both nations have had ties since the 1970s.
There is a long list of relationships between both nations, among them: they sold us weapons in the Malvinas war, for the Mirages and the A-4s. We work with Israeli companies in the modernization of the IAI Dagger and IAI Finger, in the TAM VCLC with LAR-160 and MAR-350. The modernization of the VCA Palmaria have Israeli systems, as well as the modernization of the TAM SXXI and the Kurassier to the A2 version, all of them updated with Israeli systems. The Hero 120 and 30 systems. The modernization of the TAM 2C and 2CA2 and the TAM 2IP, including the ability to fire Lahat, are some examples of cooperation between both States.

Argentina can provide many light vehicles in all ranges, several of them unique in the game. The same with airplanes.

Argentina’s main problem in having its own TT is the lack of top-level MBTs and 4+ gen fighter-bombers. What Israel lacks, on the contrary, is a huge number of light vehicles that do scouting and launch drones, to fill out all lineups, even in the first ranks.

Chilean vehicles could even have their own tree with Argentinian and Brazilian vehicles. The latter is my preferred option.

But if I have to choose an Argentine subtree in Germany or Israel, I’ll choose Israel, Germany has other options.

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@Chilean_Thunder Do you dare to do a Latin American TT between Chile, Brazil and Argentina?

I would love to play with Osorio and the L2CHL together with TAM, it is my dream.

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I know Argentine vehicles and aircraft well, in recent months I have learned a lot about them since some of your compatriots have taught me a lot, I could even call them friends. We are already working on a project like this, I am in charge of things of Chile, so in the future you will see what you want here in the forum, a latam tree in the game is also my dream.

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The game does not need even more copy pasta to grind thru just to get at actually unique vehicles. They should be added to an appropriate nation, generally the country of origin. like Israel for the HVSS, Germany for the Leos etc.

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You know that will not happen, you have the clearest recent example of the integration of the Hungarian sub-tree to Italy where the Leopard 2A4 is exactly the same as the one from Germany without any change, not even in its ammunition, or the one in Sweden, or the T- 72M1. Things are not as we want and there will always continue to be copy paste whether the community likes it or not. In addition, this sub tree does not have much copy paste and as I described in the disclaimers, not exactly all vehicles should be added, if gaijin decides it can add only the most unique ones so that the community is calm.

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But at least you did get some novel vehicles in the beginning before you got to the cut + paste. Sorry but most people don’t want to have to grind out a whole vehicle for basically a skin.
And you asked for opinions about what we’d like, not what Gaijin would do. No one has enough tea leaves and entrails for that. ;)

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+1, Chile will serve well as a sub tree to Israel.

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Thanks bro :D

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Hey man, I made a take on your exact suggestion some time ago, here is it if you still would like to see it:

Version 1
Version 2

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