Speaking of the devil:
Look I’m not a huge fan of Turkey but I would say they have a lot more going on in terms of modern military history that’s on par with modern Russian military history.
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Chile, Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, Ecuador, Turkey, and I’ve seen some people pop the idea of Greece.
Ofc it wouldn’t need one, especially never need one for ground, if gaijin would add more vehicles that it could and should have. There’s so many unique options the tree could receive, which is also why it never could be a Subtree, but in the state it’s in it looks almost like it has to be.
Went to Italy iirc
Germany
Yeah they got the Kfirs but I dont know if they got anything worthy for ground force…
Why not (as long as Turkiye to Israel wont cause political troubles since I dont know about that)
What can Chile and Ecuador provide to the TT?
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From what I remember, Brazil isn’t an official subtree yet and I’m not sure about Argentina.
Chile can give tons, some Columbian bits and bobs in air, heli and ground are available and an Ecuadorian missile corvette.
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i mean they didnt even finished the basic things for the israeli TT…
and lets dont start with the bug reports.
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I think Colombia can contribute some interesting vehicles as a subtree. Apart from the Kfir C.10 (unfortunately incomplete) and the AH-60L “Arpía IV”, it can contribute with a light vehicle LAV III (which has an Israeli weapons system), modified EE-09 Cascabel Mk4, Barak MX anti-aircraft systems (SPAA), Anti-tank systems with Nimrod missiles (interesting), HMMWV with Spike or as an anti-aircraft system Mistral missiles, and some others that have already been suggested. That would be great!
Turkey would not be good. Not just that Turkey can make their own tech tree with their domestic equipment and their upgraded exports, but there are other countries a lot closer to Israel (eg Chile) that wouldn’t have a place in the game otherwise.
Brazil did not, they have Hungary and Romania. According to gaijin a nation is not allowed more than two subtrees at the moment. The only Brazilian vehicles in the Italian tree are of Italian origins, same goes for Turkish vehicles there.
Argentina vehicles have been placed in Germany the was Swiss vehicles were originally under what’s they’ve defined as a nation placement. It’s when they relegate vehicles of a nation to a specific tree without it outright have dedicated lines or being defined as a Subtree. Technically this means is still on the table. It’s strange but I think it will end up going to Germany later down the line anyway, but it’s not set in stone.
For Colombia and Ecuador it’s mainly about what they can provide to the air tree. Israel’s ground tree is not in need of a Subtree really ever. Here’s a envisionment project a friend of mine made that’s puts things into perspective:
As for Aircraft, Colombia has:
The Kfir COA (C.10), the Kfir C.12, the Kfir TC.10, Kfir C.7, Kfir C.2, Kfir TC.2, the EMB 314 Super Tucano, the EMB 312 Tucano, the Mirage 5COAM and the Mirage 5COAD, the Mirage 5COA and the Mirage 5COD, the CL-13B Mk.6, the F-86F-?, F-80C, the T-33A, the A-37B, the OV-10A/D, the FMA IA-58, the P-47D-30, the AC-47T, the A-26C-?, the B-25?, the AT-11, the AT-6D, and some biplanes.
For Aircraft, Ecuador has:
Like Colombia is has the Kfir CE (C.10 that hasn’t used Derbys but could use them), Kfir C.2, Mirage 50V and Mirage 50DV, the EMB 314 Super Tucano, the EMB 312 Tucano, the F-80C, the T-33A, the A-37B, the P-47D-30, and the AT-6.
But uniquely they also have: The Cheetah C/D, Mirage F1JA and Mirage F1JE (both modified to use Python 3s and Python 4s), the Jaguar ES, the Strikemaster Mk.89/Mk.89A, the Meteor FR Mk.9, the Canberra B Mk.6, and the P-36, and a biplane fighter or two. Ecuador could also give Israel the OSA as a radar SPAA in a much needed area.
And as has been shown above, Chile can provide quite a lot for the tree.
It might have some political troubles, but given the military involvement it’s not an illogical addition should it occur.
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looking like the community voting for a Singapore sub tree in Israels tech tree. potentially could happen as they do have military ties and relations.
That’s Britain’s property.
You underestimate how many vehicles Israel actually has. They’re a regional superpower and could easily grow to the size of other tech trees. The fact that it hasn’t is due to Gaijin themselves.
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Yes I do underestimate because I have no interest in Israel as a tech tree at the moment, I have doubts that this will ever change for good. In reality I never understood why it’s a tech tree. Majority is copy and paste, and it’s not Gaijin’s intentions, just because it’s, apart from Merkavas and late Magach modifications, everything else is content you find in french, american and fewer in sovietic tech tree, as a superpower has little of content to offer to the game which majority couldn’t be that much useful.
Should we delete China then?
Israel’s unique in that it offers highly modified vehicles. While it may not have many independent designs manufactured from the ground up, they are modified in a way that changes and develops gameplay. If you look at these vehicles without understanding what is different about them and how they alter the platform’s original gameplay, it will naturally appear to be the same gameplay when it isn’t.
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Please keep Hispanic nations clean for their own joint TT. Israel shouldn’t even have been added in the first place. They pushed it through, turned out to be rubbish, well, too bad, should’ve thought about it.
“Saving” a tree by just turning it into a mashup of nations shouldn’t be a valid procedure.
Türkiye because of M60T Sabra’s and F4E 2020
I’m pretty sure they Turks would have like 3 interesting vehicles lol, most of which are based on the M60 platform I’d say. Israel would need something different, but it’s all damned Pattons and Merkavas. Who even thought this would be a good idea?
Türkiye or Singapore
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Turkish Ground Forces Tech Tree Turkish Helicopter Tech Tree Have you looked at the vehicles in this subject? along with the Turkish sub tree the Israeli tree can be more various also with Turkish sub tree Israel could get low tier vehicles