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Our previous ASEAN Founders Aviation Sub-TT Suggestion:
On August 8, 1967, the foreign ministers of Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, Singapore and Thailand met in Bangkok, Thailand to sign the ASEAN Declaration, establishing the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN). These five leaders – Adam Malik (Indonesia), Narciso R. Ramos (Philippines), Tun Abdul Razak (Malaysia), S. Rajaratnam (Singapore) and Thanat Khoman (Thailand) – are now considered the founding fathers of ASEAN, which has become arguably the most successful intergovernmental organization of the developing world.
The ASEAN Declaration was a simple but formative document consisting of five articles. It stated that ASEAN was created to promote regional cooperation in economic, social, cultural, educational and technical areas and to support peace and stability through respect for law and justice. Member states declared that ASEAN expresses the collective will of Southeast Asia to create a community and cooperate to ensure peace, freedom and prosperity for its peoples. They committed to upholding the principles of the United Nations Charter, with the goal of creating a safe and peaceful space for all Southeast Asian countries.
The formation of ASEAN came at a time of regional tension and after protracted negotiations that ultimately led to success through a mix of diplomatic skill and informal, cooperative approaches - referred to as “sports shirt diplomacy”. The ASEAN Declaration was created in response to the conflicts and challenges of the time. Thailand played a key role in mediating between Indonesia, the Philippines and Malaysia, and suggested harnessing the potential of a common platform to address security concerns and economic dependence. This belief led the five nations to join forces to promote regional stability and a common approach to economic dependence on developed countries.
Each foreign minister brought a unique perspective to the talks. Philippine Foreign Minister Ramos stressed the need for unity to counter the “risk of fragmentation” of Southeast Asian economies. Indonesian Minister Adam Malik spoke of a vision of a stable Southeast Asia that can insulate itself from outside influences and sustain itself through cooperation. Malaysia’s Tun Abdul Razak called on countries to take responsibility for their future and see each other as partners. Singapore’s Foreign Minister Rajaratnam called for a new mindset that balances national interests with regional needs and warned against “Balkanization” of the region by outside powers. Thanat Khoman, Thai Foreign Minister, described ASEAN as a platform through which Southeast Asian nations could achieve their social and economic goals and build long-term stability.
The ASEAN Declaration not only set out the vision of a stable and cooperative region, but also established a way of working based on small steps and voluntary agreements. This approach allowed members to overcome differentiated positions and conflicts of interest without jeopardizing cooperation. ASEAN developed in the following decades and established important treaties such as the Treaty of Amity and Cooperation (1976) and the Treaty on a Nuclear-Weapon-Free Zone in Southeast Asia (1995).
Today, ASEAN is not only an important regional organization in Southeast Asia, but a crucial player in the entire Asia-Pacific region. The founding vision of creating a community of states linked by dialogue, cooperation and mutual support is a foundation that remains relevant today. The ten rice shafts in the ASEAN logo symbolize the unity of all Southeast Asian countries and reflect the goal of promoting economic and social development, resolving conflicts through dialogue and creating a closely connected community.
The suggested ASEAN Sub-Tree’s include the founding ASEAN member states of Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, Singapore and Thailand. This Sub-Tree’s support the existing selection of vehicles in the Japanese tech tree and fills vital roles to the gameplay of War Thunder that in many cases cannot be filled with domestic Japanese vehicles; what is missing is variation, especially in the top tier area, in all three sectors of ground, helicopter and aircraft, especially MBTs, air defence, support vehicles (incl. ATGM / FnF carriers) and CAS.
Japan keeps cooperative relations with ASEAN, having first established dialogue relations with ASEAN in 1973, and formalized them in 1977. A Comprehensive Economic Partnership agreement between ASEAN and Japan was signed at the ASEAN-Japan Summit in October 2003. In November 2014 the first ASEAN-Japan defense Minister meeting was held, concluding that defense cooperation to deal with non-traditional threats such as humanitarian assistance and disaster relief, maritime security, counterterrorism, peacekeeping operations, humanitarian mine action as well as cyber security would be continued into the future.
In a gameplay related sense, the suggested Sub-Tree’s would primarily help the generally lacking capabilities of the tech tree and the rather sparse selection of vehicles from Rank IV (4) onwards, especially in therms of Anti-Air, ATGM carriers and MBTs at high tier. These vehicles would also help steer the game away from fictional “paper” vehicles, such as the Ho-Ri “Production” that Gaijin already announced they would be planning to remove once suitable replacements are found. Such fictional vehicles could be properly replaced with the advent of the ASEAN Sub-Tree’s.
The choice of limiting the Sub-Tree’s to the founding members of ASEAN rather than all 10 member states was decided to limit the otherwise excessive amount of vehicles necessary to represent the Sub-Tree’s, as well as keep the majority of the tech tree with western/NATO aligned equipment, with just a very few unique exceptions in Eastern style for more diversity and indifferent representation of Nations, but also to by mainly taking Western-oriented nations, while Myanmar for example can be considered for China. The low amount of Japanese vehicle options (even considering content that has yet to be added; which is everything but substantial) when compared to other nations also works in favor of the Sub-Tree’s, allowing for suitable representation for each of the founding ASEAN members and keeping the Japanese tech tree alive for a longer period with a lot of new content. The Sub-Tree’s offer enough vehicle options to focus on interesting modified or unique vehicles rather than relying on excessive amounts of existing vehicles aka “Copy n’ Paste”.
This addition will greatly help the appeal of the tech tree and help bridge the gap in capability and variety when compared to other in-game tech trees, benefiting the general balance of the game.
The ASEAN Founders Ground Sub-TT, consisting of the Southeast Asian nations of Thailand, Singapore, Indonesia, Malaysia and the Philippines, is as tailored as possible to uniqueness and gap-filling. The Ho-Ri “Production” will be replaced by a new SPH as well as by a new support vehicle and new light tanks, the lack of light support vehicles with medium calibre gun options from Rank III (3) will be remedied up to the top tier and supported by a small handful of new unique / modified MBTs and further future or alternative options. Here and there, some gaps seem a bit larger, but these are mostly either intentional so as not to overload the tree, or don’t matter as Japan fills these with domestic equipment (e.g. M44, M52, MMPM, Komatsu LAV, CCV and future Type 10 variant, or already existing content).
As a small statistic; we have around 80% unique (nation specific variants, domestic and non in-game) new additions, around 16% imported but modified content and the remaining being C&P or not definable.
In the following list you can see possible future options, as well as potential additional options (honorable mentions), which we did not want or could not include in the TT for various reasons. Both lists may be expanded in the future. Also remember that not everything needs to be added, we have added what met our criteria but also enough / the most necessary to represent each of the participating nations equally, even if one or the other addition does not seem to fit, It is also about bringing the best possibilities into the spotlight and not just the most necessary or most fitting.
Future Options:
- EVA M2 SPGH (Malaysia)
- Trisula-O (Indonesia)
Honorable Mentions:
- M728 CEV (Singapore)
- Tempest MBT (Singapore)
- Bionix 25 (Singapore)
- Cockerill 3105 MPF (Singapore)
- Terrex 3 (Singapore)
- Terrex s5 (Singapore)
- DTI AAPC (Thailand)
- M60A3 TTS “WERA” (Thailand)
- BTR-3E (CSE 90LP) (Thailand)
- BTR-3RK (Thailand)
- M113 FSV (Philippines)
- MMPV (Philippines)
- M113A2 UT25 (Philippines)
- LVT(A)-4 (Indonesia)
- Marder 1A3 (Indonesia)
- BTR-4M (Indonesia)
- Pandur II IFV (Cobra) (Indonesia)
- Leopard 2RI (Indonesia)
- KSSB Scorpion (Malaysia)
- ACV-300 Adnan (Malaysia)
- AFV25 (Malaysia)
- AFV30 (Malaysia)
- Metis-M (Malaysia)
- Object 478DU8 (Malaysia)
The Battle Ratings (BR), Roles and Tech Tree placements are rough estimates for illustrative purposes only and can be ignored.
Rank I (1)
Humfox
After the end of World War II, the Dutch colonial army faced a shortage of Humber armoured cars for it’s military operations in Indonesia. Thus, the Dutch acquired 39 Canadian-built Fox armoured cars from a vehicle dump and fitted them with Humber turrets, dubbed “Humfox”. The modification were done at Wilton-Fijenoord, Rotterdam in October 1946. After successful firing trials in November 1946, 34 Humfox were created and sent to Indonesia. After the end of the Indonesian Independence War in 1949, the remaining Humfox were transfered to the Indonesian Army.
Specifications
- Crew: 4
- Maximum Speed: 71 km/h
- Engine: name GMC 6-cylinder gasoline 90 hp
- Armament:
- 37 mm M6
- M74B1, AP, APCBC, APHEI
- 1 x 7.92 mm Besa machine gun
Type 76
The Type 76 is a self-propelled anti-aircraft vehicle based on the Vickers Armstrong Dragon carrier chassis, itself based on their Mk. E light tank. It takes advantage of the Dragon carriers large, open superstructure by placing a 40mm 2-pounder “Pom-Pom” cannon inside. Despite the Dragon carrier finding export success in multiple nations, Thailand was the only operator of this unique SPAA. It was designated the Type 76 after the Buddhist year 2476 (1933), making it probably the first mass-produced tracked SPAA.
Suggestion Link: Type 76 - Kingdom of Siam's first SPAAG
Specifications
- Crew: 6
- Maximum Speed: 35km/h
- Engine: Armstrong-Siddeley Puma 4-cylinder 92hp
- Armament:
- 40mm QF 2-pounder Mk. II “Pom-Pom”
- APHE, HEF, HE-TF
Porbokhor 105 Attajhon
The Porborkhor 105 Attajhon (or its full name: “ปืนใหญ่เบากระสุนวิถีโค้งขนาด ๑๐๕ มิลลิเมตร อัตตาจร, ปบค 105 อัตตาจร”) were made in response to the US denial to sell new 105mm and 155mm self propelled howitzers to Thailand. They instead decided to mount their existing 105mm Bofors L/22 howitzers to US-built halftrack chassis. In addition to the main armament, a machine gun is mounted on each side, the right side mounting an HMG and the left side an LMG. The mounted howitzer can achieve a rate of fire around 3-6rd/min.
Suggestion Link: Porborkhor 105 Attajhon - Royal Thai Army's improvised Artillery Truck
Specifications
- Crew: 6
- Maximum Speed: km/h
- Engine: Cummins 8-cylinder water-cooled V8504C 147hp
- Armament:
- 105mm Bofors L/22
- HE, Smoke
- 1x 7.62mm M60, 1x 12.7mm M2HB
Rank II (2)
LVTH-6
The LVTH-6 is the fire support variant of the LVTP-5 amphibious armored fighting vehicle, a further evolution of the WWII LVT series of tracked landing vehicles. It mounts a 105mm howitzer in a fully rotating turret, as well as a set of machine guns. The Philippine Marine Corps operated around 20 of these vehicles until eventually retiring them in 2019. While generally only lightly armored, these vehicles can be equipped with frontally mounted spare tracks as well as gun shields for their turret mounted .50 caliber Browning machine guns for additional protection.
Suggestion Link: (Not suggested)
Specifications
- Crew: 7
- Maximum Speed: 48km/h
- Engine: Continental LV-1790-1 V-12 704hp
- Armament:
- 105mm M49
- HE, HEAT, Smoke
- 1x 7.62mm M1919A4, 1x 12.7mm M2HB
Chi-Ha (6-Pounder)
The Type 97 Chi-Ha tank was part of the equipment left behind by the Japanese that managed to be seized during the Indonesian National Revolution following the second world war. This specific tank was up gunned, replacing the original 57mm Type 97 with a captured 57mm 6-pounder cannon and saw use during the battle of Surabaya. The tank is currently on display at the Brawijaya Museum, Malang, though it seems to have had its armament, including the main cannon, removed and replaced with a mock barrel.
Suggestion Link: (Not suggested)
Specifications
- Crew: 4
- Maximum Speed: 40km/h
- Engine: Mitsubishi SA12200VD air-cooled V-12 diesel 170hp
- Armament:
- 57mm QF 6-pounder Mk. I
- AP, HE
- 2-3x 7.7mm Type 97
DTI-2 MLRS
The DTI-2 MLRS is the second generation of DTI’s domestic 122mm rocket system with a stated range of 40km. It is mounted to a Type 85 self propelled rocket artillery variant, replacing the original launcher for 30 130mm rockets with a 20 tube launcher for the Thai missiles. The same rockets are also used with Thai SR4 MLRS truck, featuring two 20 tube launchers.
Suggestion Link: (Not Suggested)
Specifications
- Crew: 4
- Maximum Speed: 65km/h
- Engine: Deutz BF8L 413F 320hp
- Armament:
- 20x 122mm DTI-2
Rank III (3)
AMX Mk 61
In the 1950s, France wanted to replace its aging WW2-era SPG, such as the M7 Priest, with a domestically made SPG. AMX Mk 61 is basically an AMX-13 chassis fitted with a superstructure in the back, housing a 105 mm Mle 1950 howitzer. The Indonesian Army acquired 57 AMX Mk 61 SPG from France in late 1970s to 1982 under Guntur Geni II project.
Suggestion Link: (Suggestion for French tech tree)
Specifications
- Crew: 5
- Maximum Speed: 60 km/h
- Engine: SOFAM 8Gxb 8-cylinder gasoline 250 hp
- Armament:
- 105 mm Obusier de 105 modèle 1950
- HE, HEAT
- 1 x M60 machine gun
Alvis Saladin Retrofit
Alvis Saladin was designed in 1954 for the British Army and entered service in 1958. The Indonesian Army acquired them in early 1960s along with the Saracen and Ferret armored vehicles. In the mid 1990s, the surviving Saladins were retrofitted by installing a new diesel engine, modifying the gear ratio, and the addition of turret periscope similar to those on Scorpion 90 tanks.
Suggestion Link: Alvis Saladin (Type-160T) - Indonesia’s refurbished Old-Baked Armoured Vehicle - Suggestions / Ground - War Thunder — official forum
Specifications
- Crew: 3
- Maximum Speed: 70 km/h
- Engine: Perkins Phaser 160T 6-cylinder diesel 160 hp
- Armament:
- 76 mm L5A1
- HE, HESH, Smoke
- 2 x 7.62 mm M1919 Browning or 7.62 mm FN MAG
M425 SPH
The M425 Howitzer is a Thai developed Howitzer derived from the GIAT LG1. In total three prototypes as well as eight serially produced examples of a self propelled version of this howitzer were made, mounting it on a Kia KM500 truck. The mounted howitzer achieves a sustained fire rate of 3rd/min, with a maximum fire rate of 10rd/min.
Suggestion Link: M425 SPH - Royal Thai Army's Obscure Howitzer
Specifications
- Crew: 4
- Maximum Speed: 60km/h
- Engine: Six-cylinder diesel 270hp
- Armament:
- 105mm M425 Howitzer
- HE, HE-ER, Smoke
Type 21 LT
The FV101 Scorpion, in Thai service designated as “Type 21 Light Tank” is a light reconnaissance tank equipped with a low velocity 76mm L23A1 cannon. Uniquely, the Thai examples of the tank have been upgraded, replacing the initial Jaguar J60 Mk 100b 4.2 liter petrol engine with a new Cummins 5.9l diesel engine and fitting them with a thermal sight.
Suggestion Link: Alvis FV101 Scorpion - Royal Thai Army's Tracked Reco
Specifications
- Crew: 3
- Maximum Speed: 80km/h
- Engine: Cummins BTA 5.9-litre 190hp
- Armament:
- 76mm L23A1
- HESH, HE, Smoke
- 7.62mm L7 GPMG
Rank IV (4)
V-150 (MECAR 90)
The V-150 Commando armored cars have been in use with the Malaysian Army in APC and FSV variations, as well as the Malaysian police force armed with 20mm cannons where some still serve to this day. Their FSV variant was equipped with lightweight 90mm MECAR cannons featuring potent anti-armor capability due to their HEAT-FS ammunition. A surviving example can be found at Muzium Tentera Darat, Port Dickson.
Suggestion Link: The Cadillac Gage V-150/LAV-150 Armored Car Chassis Series "A Cadillac of Armored Cars" (V-150 Family suggestion)
Specifications
- Crew: 3
- Maximum Speed: 100km/h
- Engine: Cummins V-504 V8 Diesel 202hp
- Armament:
- 90mm MECAR cannon
- HEAT-FS, HE
- 7.62mm M37
REO M35 (M55)
The Indonesian Armed Forces acquired REO M35 trucks from the United States in the 1970s. Kopasgat, the Air Force special forces unit, saw the need for a mobile anti-aircraft platform for airfield defense. At the time, the Yugoslav-built Zastava M55 triple-barreled 20mm cannons, locally dubbed as “Triple Gun”, was the standard AAA used by the Kopasgat, and so the unit decided to mount a Zastava M55 on the bed of a REO M35 truck.
Suggestion Link: REO M35 (M55) - The Mobile Triple Zastava
Specifications
- Crew: 3
- Maximum Speed: 93 km/h
- Engine: REO OA-331 127 hp
- Armament:
- 3 x 20 mm Zastava M55
- HE, HEI-T, HE-T, TP-T, TP, API-T, AP-T, API, TP
AFSV-90
In 1979, as part of a large military modernization program to combat the growing risk of insurgencies and regional conflict, the Malaysian Army sought to buy an IFV. By late 1981, the decision fell on the SIBMAS AFSV-90, alongside the Condor APC. 162 AFSV-90 were supplied between 1983-1984, alongside 24 ARV variants of the same vehicle.
Suggestion link: SIBMAS AFSV-90 - Malaysia's wheeled Light Tank
Specifications
- Crew: 3
- Maximum Speed: 100km/h
- Engine: MAN Diesel 2566 MK 6-cylinder 320hp
- Armament:
- 90mm Cockerill Mk. III
- HEAT
- HESH
- HE
- 2x 7.62mm FN MAG
V-300 FSV
The V-300 was first received by the Philippine Marine Corps in 1995, receiving 12 of the APC variant, as well as 12 of the FSV variant. The V-300 FSV is equipped with a versatile, lightweight Cockerill 90mm cannon, mounted to the mobile, air-transportable wheeled chassis. The vehicle is also designed with low observability in terms of thermal, seismic, audio and radar signatures, and has amphibious capabilities.
Suggestion Link: V-300 / LAV - 300 AFV - Passed for Consideration - War Thunder - Official Forum (Old Forum Suggestion)
Specifications
- Crew: 3
- Maximum Speed: 105km/h
- Engine: Cummins 6 CTA 8.3 diesel 270hp
- Armament:
- 90mm Cockerill Mk. III
- HEAT, HESH, HE
- 7.62mm FN MAG
Rank V (5)
Scorpion 90
The Scorpion 90 is a 90mm armed fire support variant of the Scorpion tank intended mainly for export. Malaysia acquired 26 of these vehicles in 1981, making them Malaysia’s first “conventional” tanks. It features high mobility and a capable 90mm cannon, though tose come at the cost of armor, with the tank only being protected from HMG fire frontally, and even less in the sides and rear.
Suggestion link: Alvis Scorpion 90 - Malaysia's stabbing Light Tank
Specifications
- Crew: 3
- Maximum Speed: 73km/h
- Engine: Perkins 6-cylinder diesel 200hp
- Armament:
- 90mm Cockerill Mk. III
- HEAT
- HESH
- HE
- 2x 7.62mm FN MAG
Primus SSPH-1
The Primus SSPH-1 is a domestically developed Singaporean SPG. It is generally among the lightest in its class with a weight under 30t, making it not only rather mobile, but also air portable by Airbus A400M transport aircraft. Thanks to a semi-autoloading system it can sustain a fire rate of 6rd/min, as well as a burst rate or 3rd within 20s.
Suggestion Link: Primus SSPH-1 - Singapore's Light Weight Heavy Hitter
Specifications
- Crew: 4
- Maximum Speed: 50km/h
- Engine: Detroit 6V-92TA 550hp
- Armament:
- 155mm L/39
- HE, HE(PF), Smoke
- 7.62mm FN MAG
AMX-10P PAC-90
The AMX-10P PAC-90 is a unique variant of the successful French-designed AMX-10P infantry fighting vehicle, which can be seen in War Thunder. Developed by GIAT Industries, the AMX-10P replaced the AMX-VCI in French inventory and would go on to see service in several countries overseas, undergoing many variations and upgrades. One such variant, the AMX-10P PAC-90, was successfully marketed in Indonesia and Singapore. It was Singapore, in ordering the AMX-10P PAC-90, that was responsible for the very last order of the AMX-10P family in 1994. The AMX-10P PAC-90 features the same turret and gun as the Panhard ERC 6x6, the Nexter Systems TS 90 turret mounting the 90 mm CN90 F4 gun. Coincidentally, the TS90 is already in War Thunder on the MARS 15. The chassis is unchanged, retaining the same aluminum alloy that protects it from 14.5 mm in the frontal arc, but only small arms fire and shell splinters on the rest of the vehicle. Despite the low protection, it crucially retains the AMX-10P’s amphibious capability and high mobility, which will allow the player to traverse the map quickly, flanking and destroying enemies with potent APFSDS rounds.
Suggestion Link: N/A
Specifications
- Crew: 3
- Maximum Speed: 65 km/h (on roads), 8 km/h (when amphibious)
- Engine: Hispano Suiza HS 115 multi-fuel diesel engine
- Armament:
- 1x 90mm GIAT CN90F4
- APFSDS, HE, HEAT-FS
- 1x 7.62 mm A-A-F1N machine gun
M163A1 (TVADS)
The M163 first entered service with the Thai Army in 1981. In 2015, these anti aircraft systems were upgraded to the IMI Super Vulcan standard, a competitor to the IAI Machbet. Like the Machbet, this upgrade included a new FLIR fire control system replacing the old AN/VPS-2 tracking radar, though unlike the Machbet it did not integrate Stinger missiles.
Suggestion Link: M163 TVADS Super Vulcan - Machbet's Brother, Revived in Thailand
Specifications
- Crew: 4
- Maximum Speed: 64km/h
- Engine: General Motors 6V53 212hp
- Armament:
- 20mm General Dynamics M168 Rotary Cannon
- AP-I, API-T, HEF-I, HEI-T
ASCOD II Command Vehicle
The Philippine Army ASCOD II Command vehicle is, similar to the tracked variant of their Sabrah light tank, based on the VCZAP Castor ARV chassis. It mounts an Elbit UT25 unmanned turret similar to those fitted previously to some of their M113 APCs, though the turret on the ASCOD is a newer variant with a smaller profile. It was ordered alongside the aforementioned tracked Sabrah tank on the same chassis, as well as a wheeled Sabrah based on the Pandur 8x8 chassis. Both of the ASCOD II based variants were delivered in late 2023 and entered service with the Philippine Army soon after.
Suggestion Link: ASCOD II Command Vehicle - IFV turned Command & Control Vehicle
Specifications
- Crew: 3
- Maximum Speed: 72km/h
- Engine: MTU 8V199 TE-20 720hp
- Armament:
- 25mm M242 Bushmaster
- APDS, APFSDS, HEI-T, PABM
- 7.62mm Machine Gun
Badak FSV
Work on the project first started in the early 2000s, where first efforts were made to mount the domestic Anoa APC with the same Alvis AC 90 turret used on their Scorpion 90 tanks. In 2014 the first Badak FSV was revealed, still featuring a chassis based on the Anoa APC, but now featuring the Cockerill CSE 90LP turret. The Badak officially entered service with the Indonesian Army in 2021, with the production variant featuring add on armor allowing a protection rating of STANAG 4569 Level 3 to 4.
Suggestion link: Pindad Badak: The Charging Rhino
Specifications
- Crew: 3
- Maximum Speed: 80km/h
- Engine: Turbo-Charged Intercooler Diesel 340 hp
- Armament:
- 90mm Cockerill Mk. III M-A1
- APFSDS
- HEAT
- HESH
- HE
- Smoke
- 2x 7.62mm FN MAG
AMX-13/SM-1
The AMX-13 was the first tank in the Singaporean Army, having been bought in 1969 from Israel. In 1988 the first tanks were upgraded to SM-1 standard, including a new, more powerful engine, automatic transmission and hydropneumatic suspension, a laser rangefinder and night vision devices. While the original 75mm main cannon and drum autoloader remained untouched, an experimental APFSDS round was developed for the tank under Project Spider to improve the aging armament.
Suggestion Link: (Not suggested)
Specifications
- Crew: 3
- Maximum Speed: 64km/h
- Engine: Detroit Diesel 6V-53T 290hp
- Armament:
- 75mm SA50 L/57
- APFSDS, APBC, APCBC, HE
- 2x 7.62mm FN MAG
ACV-300 Baktar Shikan
The Malaysian ACV-300 Adnan is a result of a collaborative effort between FNSS and DefTech, resulting in an updated version of the ACV-15 equipped with a 300hp engine. Malaysia operates several variants of the Type, including Mortars, APCs, an IFV with Sharpshooter turret and an ATGM carrier mounting the Pakistani Baktar Shikan ATGM. The Baktar Shikan is a wire-guided Tandem charge ATGM capable of defeating 60mm of armor behind ERA.
Suggestion Link: (Not suggested)
Specifications
- Crew: 4
- Maximum Speed: 65km/h
- Engine: Detroit Diesel 6V-53T 300hp
- Armament:
- Baktar Shikan ATGM
- 7.62mm GPMG
Rank VI (6)
AMX-13/105 Retrofit
In 2011, PT Pindad was contracted to modernize the AMX-13/105 fleet. The project began in 2013 and the first retrofitted tank was finished by early 2014. After successful trials, more tanks were modernized and in total 13 AMX-13/105 Retrofit was delivered to 2nd Cavalry Battalion (Yonkav 2) by October 2014. The modifications includes upgraded engine, ability to fire APFSDS rounds, thermal sights, laser rangefinder, and more armor. An AMX-13/105 Retrofit with appliqué armor was unveiled at Indo Defence 2014 in November of that year.
Suggestion Link: PT PINDAD AMX-13/105 Retrofit (Yonkav 2) - Indonesia's modernization program for the aging AMX-13 fleet
Specifications
- Crew: 3
- Maximum Speed: 70 km/h
- Engine: Navistar turbo diesel 400 hp
- Armament:
- 105mm CN-105-G1
- APFSDS, HE
- 2 x FN MAG machine guns
Bionix II
The Bionix II is an upgrade to the Singaporean developed Bionix II IFV. While it retains the original hull from the Bionix 25, the turret has been redesigned to fit a 30mm Bushmaster II autocannon. It is equipped with MEXAS-M protection offering STANAG 4569 Level IV+ protection, 2nd generation thermal sights as well as multiple light machine guns including one on top of the infantry compartment.
Suggestion Link: Bionix II: Crouching Tiger
Specifications
- Crew: 3
- Maximum Speed: 70km/h
- Engine: Detroit 6V-92TA 475hp
- Armament:
- 30mm Bushmaster II
- APFSDS-T, AP-I, SAPHEI-T, HEI-T
- 3x 7.62mm FN MAG
M113A2 Ultra Mechanized Igla
The M113A2 Ultra Mechanized Igla is a surface to air missile system based on ST Kinetics upgraded M113A2 Ultra, featuring an upgraded powerpack of a new turbocharged Caterpillar 31226B diesel engine and HMX1100 Automatic variable transmission. The system is armed with license produced 9K38 surface to air missiles, as well as a light machine gun. Two separate variants of M113A2 UMI, the IFU (Integrated Fire Unit) equipped with a radar, and the WFU (Weapon Fire Unit) without. For tracking all of these vehicles are equipped with an optical tracking system.
Suggestion Link: M113A2 Ultra Mechanised Igla: Unique Combination
Specifications
- Crew: 3
- Maximum Speed: 75km/h
- Engine: Caterpillar 3126B 4-stroke 6-cyl Turbocharged Diesel 330hp
- Armament:
- 6x 9K38 Igla
- 1x 7.62mm FN MAG
Stingray
The Stingray was a private venture developed by Cadillac Gage Textron primarily for the export market. The tank was offered as a complete vehicle, while the turret was also offered for use on existing chassis. In 1988 the tank was first bought for service with the Thai Army, who to this day remain the only operators of the Stingray tank.
Suggestion Link: Commando Stingray - Royal Thai Army's Airborne Hitter
Specifications
- Crew: 3
- Maximum Speed: 70km/h
- Engine: supercharged 2-stroke V8 diesel 550hp
- Armament:
- 105mm L7A3 Low Recoil Gun
- APFSDS, HEAT-FS, HESH, Smoke
- 1x 7.62mm M240, 1x 12.7mm M2HB
M60A3 TIFCS
The M60A3 TIFCS is an upgrade done to the Thai Army’s existing M60A3 TTS tanks by Elbit Systems with the intent to extend their capabilities, and with that their service life. The upgrade includes, as the name already suggests, the TIFCS (Thermal Imaging Fire Control System) thermal sight, alongside various other upgrades such as a new electricity turret drive, a thermal sleeve for the cannon, as well as an Index Loader system for easier and faster reloading.
Suggestion Link: M60A3 TIFCS - Royal Thai Army's Renovated Hitter
Specifications
- Crew: 4
- Maximum Speed: 48km/h
- Engine: Continental AVDS-1790-2 V12 750hp
- Armament:
- 105mm M68
- APFSDS, HEAT-FS, HESH
- 1x 7.62mm M240, 1x 12.7mm M85
BTR-3E1
The BTR-3E1 a derivative of the BTR-3U, a further development of the Ukrainian BTR-94 APC. The BTR-3E1 is equipped with the BM-3 Shturm turret, fitted with both a 30mm autocannon and a dual launcher for Barrier ATGMs. Starting in 2009 Thailand began to receive their first delivery of BTR-3s, serving in both the Thai Army, as well as the Thai Marine Corp where it replaced the aging V-150.
Suggestion Link: KMDB BTR-3E1 - Royal Thai Army's Assault IFV
Specifications
- Crew: 3
- Maximum Speed: 95km/h
- Engine: MTU 6R106TD21 Diesel 326hp
- Armament:
- 30mm ZTM-1
- AP-T, APDS-T, F-T, HEF-I
- 2x RK-2OF / RK-2S
- 7.62mm PKT
Sabrah LT
The Sabrah is the most recent addition to the Philippine Army arsenal, based on the hull of the VCZAP Castor ARV. Initially projected with a 3-crew Hitfact turret, the final tank is equipped with a newly developed 2-man Elbit turret, featuring an autoloader capable of reloading the cannon at a rate of 6rd/min, a COAPS-L panoramic sight and M428 Sword APFSDS.
Suggestion Link: Sabrah Light Tank
Specifications
- Crew: 3
- Maximum Speed: 60km/h
- Engine: MTU 8V199 TE-20 720hp
- Armament:
- 105mm 105LW L/52
- APFSDS, HEAT-MP
- 7.62mm M240
Rank VII (7)
Harimau Hitam
The Harimau is the result of a collaborative development effort between FNSS Defence Systems from Turkey and PT Pindad from Indonesia. The tank’s features include good mobility, an autoloaded Cockerill 3105 turret and a versatile ammo choice ranging from high performance M1060 APFSDS to the Falarick gun-launched ATGM.
Suggestion Link: Pindad Harimau: Turkish-Indonesian Skirmisher
Specifications
- Crew: 3
- Maximum Speed: 78km/h
- Engine: Caterpillar C13 711hp
- Armament:
- 105mm Cockerill HP Gun
- APFSDS, HEAT-FS, HESH, GL-ATGM
- 7.62mm FN MAG
AV8 Gempita
The AV8 Gempita is a Malaysian APC intended to replace the aging SIBMAS and Condor APCs. It’s based around an extensively modified FNSS PARS chassis, mounting a Denel LCT-30 turret. Malaysia is the sole user of the ZT3 equipped ATGW variant of the LCT-30 turret.
Suggestion Link: DefTech AV8 Gempita ATGW - "It's a Big Deal"
Specifications
- Crew: 3
- Maximum Speed: 100km/h
- Engine: Deutz TCD 2015 V6 550hp
- Armament:
- 30mm Denel GI-30
- APC-IT, PRAC-T, SAPHEI, APFSDS
- 4x ZT3 Ingwe
- 7.62mm FN Mag
RapidRanger MMS
The Malaysian RapidRanger MMS combines the Spanish-made URO Vamtac 4x4 with Thales’ RapidRanger MMS weapon launcher. RapidRanger has thermal imaging, an Automatic Target Tracker (ATT), a laser guidance unit for aiming, and an optional laser rangefinder. The weapon system includes four ready-to-launch missile containers, capable of firing either STARStreak or the Lightweight Multirole Missile (LMM). RapidRanger MMS has a range detection of 15 km and a kill radius of up to 7 km with STARStreak and around 6km with LMM. RapidRanger is currently in service with the Malaysian Armed Forces, utilizing the STARStreak missile
Suggestion Link: URO Vamtac (RAPIDRanger MMS): The Indonesia ForceShield - Suggestions / Ground - War Thunder — official forum (Indonesian variant)
Specifications
- Crew: 4
- Maximum Speed: 135 km/h (84 mph), on roads.
- Engine: Steyr turbocharged diesel, 188 metric horsepower (138 kW)
- Armament:
- RapidRanger MMS
- STARStreak, LMM
Pandur II FSV
The Pandur II FSV is a fairly recent addition to the Indonesian Army arsenal, having only been delivered in early 2017 and not yet assigned to any combat unit. It shares the Cockerill 3105 turret with the Pindad Harimau Hitam, as well as the Pandur II APC hull with the new Pindad Cobra IFV. This combines the great mobility of the wheeled chassis with the capability of the autoloaded 105mm weapons system and its versatile ammo selection ranging from high performance M1060 APFSDS to the Falarick gun-launched ATGM.
Suggestion Link: (Not suggested)
Specifications
- Crew: 3
- Maximum Speed: 105km/h
- Engine: 6-cylinder in-line liquid-cooled turbo-charged intercooled diesel 449hp
- Armament:
- 105mm Cockerill HP Gun
- APFSDS, HEAT-FS, HESH, GL-ATGM
- 7.62mm FN MAG
Leopard 2A4SG
The first phase of the SG refurbishment of the Leopard 2A4 purchased from Singapore (here still with B-Tech) in 2010. Most of the changes in the interior, e.g. electric turret drive, as well as a new external AC system on the turret at the rear. Otherwise identical to the in-game Leopard 2A4s.
Suggestion Link: Leopard 2A4SG - The 'Early' Singaporean Big Cat
Specifications
- Crew: 4
- Maximum Speed: 70 km/h
- Engine: MTU MB 873 Ka-501 with 1,500 hp
- Armament:
- 120mm L/44
- APFSDS, HEAT-FS, HE-TF
- 2x 7.62mm FN MAG
Hunter AFV
The Hunter AFV developed as a replacement for Singapore’s aging fleet of M113s. It features a Rafael Samson Mk. II RCWS armed with a 30mm autocannon and retractable dual Spike ATGM launcher, a modern hydro-mechanical transmission and a modular armor setup providing armor estimated at STANAG 4569 Level V or VI along with digitized structure allowing it to integrate with other Singaporean ground vehicles.
Suggestion Link: Hunter AFV: The Fangs of the East
Specifications
- Crew: 3
- Maximum Speed: 70km/h
- Engine: MTU 8V-199 TE20 720hp
- Armament:
- 30mm Bushmaster II
- APFSDS-T, AP-I, SAPHEI-T, HEI-T
- 2x Spike-LR
- 7.62mm FN MAG
PT-91M Pendekar
In 2003, Malaysia signed a contract with Poland’s BUMAR for the delivery of PT-91M tanks, support vehicles, and engineering equipment, marking a milestone in defense collaboration between both countries. The PT-91M Pendekar, adapted for Malaysia with enhanced armor, advanced weaponry, and upgraded systems, debuted in 2005 and underwent extensive testing to meet Malaysia’s operational and environmental requirements. This variant features significant modifications, including a new power pack, modern navigation and defensive systems such as LWS.
Suggestion Link: PT-91M Pendekar - Malaysia's Agile Twardy
Specifications
- Crew: 3
- Maximum Speed: 60km/h
- Engine: S1000R with S1000R
- Armament:
- 1x 125mm 2A46MS
- APFSDS, HE, HEAT-FS
- 1x 12.7mm M2HB-QCB, 1x 7.62mm FN Herstal
T-84 BM Oplot-T
In 2011, the Royal Thai Army ordered 49 Oplot-T tanks, but delivery delays sparked speculation about a switch to China’s VT-4. Despite setbacks, Ukroboronprom fulfilled the contract by March 2018. The BM Oplot-T tank boasts robust three-tier protection (APS, ERA, and base armor), a 1200hp 6TD-2 engine offering excellent mobility, advanced fire control systems, and the ability to fire unique guided munitions, though some planned APFSDS rounds remain undeveloped.
Suggestion Link: KMDB T-84 BM Oplot-T - Royal Thai Army's Stronghold
Specifications
- Crew: 3
- Maximum Speed: 70 km/h
- Engine: 6TD-2 Diesel engine with 1,200 hp
- Armament:
- 125mm KBA-3
- APFSDS, HEAT-FS, GLATGM, HE-FS
- 1x 7.62mm KT-7.62, 1x 12.7mm KT-12.7
Rank VIII (8)
Leopard 2SG
Singapore acquired Leopard 2 tanks in 2007, initially ordering 96 units from Germany’s Bundeswehr to replace older AMX-13s, with further deliveries increasing the fleet to 182 by 2014. The tanks were upgraded to Leopard 2SG standards with the Leopard Evolution package, adding advanced AMAP armor (same skirts as Strv 122B+) and improved protection (may as been upgraded to C-Tech), making them resilient against high-penetration threats. Modernization efforts also included enhanced optics, fire control systems, and performance features, debuting at major exercises and exhibitions such as Wallaby 2008 and the 2017 Army Open House. Since 2010, the SAF has been upgrading the Leopard 2SG tanks, incorporating features like the COAPS sight system, a Battlefield Management System (BMS), cooling for the crew cabin, an auxiliary power unit (APU), rearview cameras, and fire control system enhancements. The COAPS, developed by Elbit, is a modular and two-axis stabilized sight system designed for main battle tanks (MBTs) and armored fighting vehicles (AFVs). It supports mission versatility with an open architecture, allowing integration of advanced sensors such as thermal imaging cameras, day/night CCD cameras, and eye-safe laser rangefinders.
Suggestion(s) Link(s):
Leopard 2 SG: Punching Above It's Weight
Leopard 2SG (Late) - The Big Cat from SingaporeSpecifications
- Crew: 4
- Maximum Speed: 70 km/h
- Engine: MTU MB 873 Ka-501 with 1,500 hp
- Armament:
- 120mm L/44
- APFSDS, HEAT-FS, HE-TF
- 2x 7.62mm FN MAG
SPYDER-SR
The SPYDER-SR, short for “Surface Lauched PhYthon and DERby - Short Range”, as the name implies, is an Israeli surface to air missile system utilizing Python 5 and Derby air to air missiles. The system is intended to be used as part of a multi-vehicle setup, however thanks to a TopLite EO/IR sensor mounted behind the cab of the vehicle it can also operate independently. The Singaporean variant is mounted on a MAN RMMV TGS-MIL 6x6 truck chassis. Singapore operates two batteries with more on order.
Suggestion Link: SPYDER-SR - Singapore's mobile Air-Defence
Specifications
- Crew: 3
- Maximum Speed: 110km/h
- Engine: MAN D20 440hp / MAN D26 480hp
- Armament:
- 4x Python-5 / Derby
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Redirecting…
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