Edit : I updated the List a bit :D
Nothing to do right now so i figured i write down the, in my Opinion, best and most needed Ground Vehicles for Chinas Tree which could/should/must be added - maybe theres a Developer who reads it or some more of the Community becoming aware of some of this Vehicles so we can make more Noise for them to be added together.
The List isn’t in any particular Order. Please make sure to vote and Comment for the ones you like to see!
IFVS :
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Howdy yall! this is my second suggestion, and I was inspired by the suggestion for the very similar VN-17(VN-17 (Pre-production prototype) - The Modular Brawler ) but was also supprised no one had made this vehicle a suggestion yet, as it is essentially a bigger better version of the previous IFV. I am specifically suggesting the version with the 30mm unmanned turret, vs the ZBD-04 style turret that has crew within it.
Introduction: the VN-20 is very comparable to the VN-17, and li…
(1.2) ZBD04 with SW1 Turret (IFV)
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Hello! This is a suggestion for a very obscure modification of the ZBD04, equipping the vehicle with a new remotely controlled SW1 turret with a 30 mm ZPT-99 cannon, as well as four HJ-8 ATGMs. I think this would be a very good addition to the Chinese tree in War Thunder given its reliable autocannon and hard hitting Red Arrow / HJ-8 ATGMs. Another reason for this vehicle’s implementation is that the Chinese tree as of this post has no tech tree IFVs outside of t…
(1.3) CM34 30mm (IFV from RoC / Taiwan)
(1.4) VN22 (IFV)
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Intro: Howdy yall! Today im making a suggestion for what would probably be a top tier wheeled IFV for China, and could help even further bolster the lineup. While there are several variants that have been built and some even sold to other nations for export, i am specifically focusing on the variant using a modified version of the VN-20 Heavy IFV’s remote weapon station, with the GL-6 APS built in.
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History: In the early 2000’s, The PLA began looking for a new family of w…
(1.5) VN12 (IFV)
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TL;DR: A Chinese IFV developed for export that resembles the ZBD-04 series.
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In the 1990s, China was looking to replace their fleet of aging ZBD-86s. This would eventually lead to the PLA importing the BMP-3 turret in 1996 under license from Russia. After thorough testing, it was decided that the turret and its systems would serve as inspiration for their new IFV. The 100mm and 30mm cannons would be reverse engineered and fitted into an indigenously developed welde…
ANTI AIR :
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Howdy yall! Today im making a suggestion for the Chinese ground tree, and in particular, a new SPAA that has the potential to be a great gap filler for the Chinese SPAA tree, and would hover around 10.0-10.3 br if added.
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The LD-35 is a very recent vehicle, and has yet to formally enter service with any nation, although it is currently being marketed for export to several countries. Despite being very new, its design is simply an evolution of the PGL-12, which i…
(2.1) FK1000 & FK2000 (SPAA, de facto Chinese Pantsir)
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Good day lads, Im about to suggest one of Chinas options of having a new, better, Pantsir-equivalent Anti Air for top tier, the FK-1000.
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Spoiler The FK-1000 is a Chinese anti aircraft system. It’s equipped with 2 PG85 23mm anti aircraft guns and 12 KS-1000 surface-to-air missiles, with six missiles on each side of the turret. The system uses a phased array guidance radar, similar to the Russian 9K330 Tor system, allowing it to track and engage multiple targets simult…
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Hi guys. :)
Today i want to suggest the Ultimate Top Tier SPAA for China that is currently known to the public. The FK-2000 Anti Air system.
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Description
The vehicle was showcased during the Zhuhai Airshow 2021 by “China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation” at the Air Defence exhibition. The vehicle is a 8x8 truck simular to the Volat MZKT-692250. It uses an unmanned turret which is operated from the crew compartment.
The vehicle uses improved localized Chinese system …
(2.3) Yitian II (SPAA)
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Here I am making a suggestion of the Yitian 2 air defense system for the China tech tree. Currently China lacks a domestic top tier SPAA vehicle. The Tor-1 is decent but has its own issues. Moreover China has the ability to fill its top tier with entirely domestic vehicles. The Yitian 2 is one of such vehicles. It features missiles with very impressive range (20km!). Also the chassis is very mobile since it is based on the VN-1 wheeled …
(2.4) Type 625E (SPAA)
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Hello everyone :), what I would like to introduce today is the Type 625E SPAAG.
Introduction
The Type 625E air defense system is currently the latest air defense system developed by China. The car was exhibited at the 2022 Zhuhai Air Show and was equipped with 6 barrel 30mm Gatling guns and 8*FB10A missiles. This vehicle is equipped with an air defense system and has the ability to shoot while moving, with a long range. It can effectively intercept inco…
MAIN BATTLE TANKS
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Hello! This is a suggestion for the ZTZ99-I, the first variant of the ZTZ99 we all know and love. It notably does not feature FY-4 ERA like the variants in-game, and as such could be a lower battle rating than the ZTZ99-II, perhaps with the DTW-125 APFSDS round introduced the same year as the tank. With this, I feel it would make it unique enough from the succeeding models to warrant its addition to the game.
Before I get started, I also wanted to note …
(3.1) ZTZ-96B (MBT)
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Welcome to another suggestion, in this one we’ll be looking at the latest iteration of China’s ZTZ 96 main battle tank, the ZTZ 96B.
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The ZTZ 96B is a further development of the ZTZ 96 tank, a vehicle that first entered service in 1997 and has continued to serve the Chinese army until the current day, with an estimated number of around 2500 still in service. The first models are considered a second generation MBT, but the procedural upgrades that …
(3.2) ZTQ-15 / VT5 (LIGHT TANK)
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Welcome to the suggestion for the ZTQ-15 light tank! This is one of the PRC’s most modern light tanks, and would be an excellent addition to the Chinese tree, being a unique design, but would also be heavily effective, complimenting China’s top tier. It would give Chinese tank commanders of War Thunder something smaller and more mobile to flank around and support the heavier ZTZ96s and ZTZ99s, while still maintaining the heavy firepower of a tank. Although it is a relative…
(3.3) VN12 with 105mm Gun (LIGHT TANK)
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TL;DR: A VN12 with equipped with a ZLT-05 turret and cage armor.
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History:
In the 1990s, China was looking to replace their fleet of aging ZBD-86s. This would eventually lead to the PLA importing the BMP-3 turret in 1996 under license from Russia. After thorough testing, it was decided that the turret and its systems would serve as inspiration for their new IFV. The 100mm and 30mm cannons would be reverse engineered and fitted into an indigenously developed w…
(3.4) Fixing the ZTZ99s - the ZTZ99A, VT4A1, WZ1001 and even the early ZTZ99s all lack their Spall Liner (they do have IRL) and the ZTZ99A also lacks its Active Protection System. They also have an Reload of 6 to 6.5seconds and not 7.1, their APFSDS is also much more powerful IRL and so is their Armour which to this Day isn’t even modelled correctly
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Hello everyone, this is a theme about all the errors in ZTZ99A in the game.
This is a very long article. If you want to watch it, please be prepared
ZTZ99A join game has been two years, It should have been a very popular tank，but its performance has always been poor.
There has been no progress in the laser suppression system
The loading time is limited to 7.1 seconds.
Due to the neglect of materials science and special structures, the performance of DTC10 i…
(3.5) ST2 (LIGHT TANK)
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Welcome to the suggestion for the ST2, a Chinese vehicle that can be best described as a tracked WMA301. It uses an extended version of the ZSD89 APC chassis in combination with Norinco’s 105mm fire support turret. In War Thunder, the ST2 could serve as one of China’s many light tank options, offering a lighter tracked chassis as opposed to main battle tanks or wheeled alternatives.
History <a class="lightbox" href="https://forum-en-cdn.warthunder.com/orig…
(3.6) Type 85-IIM (MBT)
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TL;DR: A Type 85-IIM equipped with the GL5 hard-kill APS for demonstration purposes.
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History:
In the early 1980s, relations between China and the western world had begun to warm, which made getting their hands on western tech much easier. This allowed the aging Type 69 to be equipped with a NATO standard 105mm cannon and other western tech, turning it into the Type 79. While the upgrade was nice, it was, by all accounts, a stop-gap. What China really needed was a true secon…
(3.7) Type 69-IIA with a 125 Cannon (MBT)
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TL;DR: A Type 69 with a lightweight 125mm cannon.
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After the signing of the Sino-Soviet Treaty of Friendship in 1950, the Soviet Union pledged to assist China in building a tank manufacturing facility for the purpose of producing the Soviet T-54A in China. To get them started, the Soviet Union would supply them with the necessary parts, however, as time went on, these parts would be replaced by Chinese produced equivalents. These Chinese produced T-54As would e…
(3.8) ZTZ 85-III (MBT)
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Welcome to another suggestion, in this one we’ll be having a look at the final iteration of the Chinese ZTZ 85 series MBT, the ZTZ 85-III.
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The ZTZ 85-III is a further development of the ZTZ 85 series of tanks, which in turn is a further development of the ZTZ 80/88 series of tanks. The ZTZ 85 featured a new turret which for the first time in Chinese tank development was outfitted with a composite armor array. The original ZTZ 85 was equipped with…
(3.9) ZTZ-98 9910 Prototype (MBT)
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G’day lads, I’m here to suggest a rather…obscure vehicle from China around the 90’s, which would be the ZTZ-98 9910 Prototype!
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Spoiler The ZTZ-98, also known as the Type 98, is a Chinese third-generation main battle tank developed by Norinco. Initially produced in limited quantities, it served as a forerunner to the more advanced ZTZ-99 series. The ZTZ-98 is equipped with a 125mm smoothbore gun that uses an autoloader, capable of firing various types of ammunition suc…
(3.10) WZ123A(Y) (MBT)
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Opening Foreword:
Spoiler You may think that the turret of this tank is a lot like the WZ1001(E) LCT in the game, because the WZ1001(E) LCT tank in the game is a hybrid of the WZ123A(Y) turret and the real-life WZ1001 chassis.
（Many thanks to Weibo UP 咩鳖头子 compose the informational articles about WZ123A(Y) and WZ1001, which helped me distinguish and identify various experimental prototypes of ZTZ99A, and then I had this suggestion.）
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SPGs, HOWITZERs, ATGM Slingers
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Welcome to the suggestion for the BK1970! This is an experimental Chinese wheeled vehicle from the 1990s. The BK1970 offers its commander access to a variety of 105mm shells paired with fast mobility on a small platform. Fun fact, the chief designer of this vehicle, Fang Weixian, also helped design the ZTZ69, ZTZ80, ZTZ88, and ZTZ96!
History Development of this vehicle began in the late 1990s, when the PLA began to switch from heavier vehicles like the P…
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TL;DR: The first of two prototypes of an 8x8 122mm armed SPG.
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Note: This is the only picture I could find of this vehicle. If you have any other significant information, please let me know.
History:
With the collapse of the USSR in the early 1990s, China’s focus could finally switch from heavily guarding its northern border to other matters. One of these matters was the development of lighter, faster, and easier to maintain military vehicles. Vehicles which had the gun…
(4.1) PLZ45A4 (Howitzer like the incoming PLZ05 but more modern)
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TL;DR: The most recent development of the PLZ-45 equipped with a fully automatic loader and a lot of cosmetic drip.
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History:
Sometime during the 1970s, Gerald Bull, a Canadian-American weapons engineer, designed and produced the GC-45 155mm towed howitzer under his own company known as the Space Research Corporation. This weapon would attract the attention of Noricum, the arms division of the Austrian steel company Voest-Alpine. With Gerald’s he…
(4.2) PLL09 (Wheeled SPG)
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TL;DR: A quick 8x8 Chinese armored car fitted with a 122mm howitzer.
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History:
Accepted into service sometime between 2009 and 2014, the PLL-09 is a mobile artillery system used by both the Chinese Army and Marines in large numbers. Though primarily designed to engage indirectly, the 122mm PL-96 howitzer the vehicle is equipped with is fully stabilized if the need to engage directly arised. The chassis of the vehicle is that of the ZBL-09 and, as such, is fully amphibious…
(4.3) SH11 (Wheeled SPG with an 155mm Gun)
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TL;DR: An 8x8 wheeled 155mm SPG.
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History:
Getting towed howitzers from point A to point B in a timely manner has always been an issue when it comes to large militaries. One of the most well known ways of transporting these weapons was through their mounting on various self-propelled chassis, turning them into self-propelled howitzers, or SPHs. The most well known form of SPH are tracked SPHs. This type of SPH provides a robust and fairly mobile platform to transport the…
(4.4) Hunter Leopard (wheeled 105mm Tank from RoC/Taiwan)
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Following my suggestion of the CM-34 30mm 8x8 wheeled IFV , now suggesting the D2 prototype of the 105mm armed 8x8 wheeled tank that was officially displayed a few weeks ago, which is different from the old 2007 prototype .
Hunter Leopard 105mm Wheeled Tank (D2 Prototype)**
Taiwanese(Republic of China) wheeled tank armed with 105mm
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Introduction
Spoiler The 105mm wheeled tank “Liebao”(Cheetah/Hunter Leopard) is a wheeled tank based on the CM-32 APC family under the 獵豹專案(Proj…
(4.5) ST1 (Like the ZLT11 / WMA301)
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Welcome to the suggestion for the ST1, an 8x8 assault gun developed by NORINCO. Briefly, the ST1 can be considered an upgraded WMA301. It utilizes a hull similar to the ZLT11, but has the turret of the WMA301. This means the user can enjoy second generation thermal imaging, laser rangefinding, decent speed, and a very versatile 105mm gun, but with improved hull armor over the WMA301. In War Thunder, this would add to the lineup of Chinese wheeled assault guns, perhap…
(4.6) AFT10 (Multi-Purpouse Anti Tank Missile System)
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Hello again! Im about to suggest an anti tank vehicle for the chinese tech tree, the ZBD04A AFT-10 Multi Purpose Anti Tank Missile System!
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^ ZBD04A Variant!
Description:
Spoiler The AFT-10 is a multi-purpose anti-tank missile system developed by China. It’s designed to engage not only armored vehicles however also other important targets like fortifications and engineering structures. It can also however engage flying targets too, like helicopters or other slow air targets a…
(4.7) ZDF89 (Kinda like a tracked Version of the in-Game AFT09)
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Welcome to the suggestion post for the ZDF89!
What exactly is the ZDF89? For starters, the name itself stands for Zhihui Dao-dàn Fánghù, or Guided Missile Carrier, with the 89 seemingly carried over from the vehicle’s base chassis, a ZSD89 APC. From its name, you may already tell what this vehicle’s purpose is, a tank destroyer with anti-tank guided missiles. The missiles used on the ZDF89 are the HJ-8, HJ meaning Hóng Jiàn, or Red Arrow. These are carrie…
(4.8) WZ141 (Two recoilless 105mm Guns)
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Spoiler WZ141 is China’s Airborne Combat Vehicle in the Cold War under the threat of the Soviet Union’s armored torrent, the Airborne Forces proposed to design an airborne combat vehicle: it has strong anti-armor firepower, and it can descend behind the enemy group in wartime, which can not only slow down the advance of the enemy’s armored forces, but also use the firepower advantage to cut off its supply line and create conditions for the counter-shock.In the end, the project wa…
Spend way to much time with this but got nothing to do anyway, this is my favourite List / Wishlist of all the Suggestions / potential Vehicles for China.
If i missed anything cool please let me know!
