Yup, he has no logic whatsoever
When I’m arguing with 5 different people the points get mixed up.
Anyways, you were pretty generous with your assessment of what constituted a domestic contribution. Fixed that for you:
Also yeah, Germany does have some air issues, but Italy has some ground issues. Instead of making two different trees they should have just been combined to let the trees play off of each lthers strengths.
You crossed out the OF-40, a purely for Italian design. You also crossed out unique Hungarian tanks.
M47/105 I would say is pretty unique
Also unlike other nations Italy’s tech tree can be heavily expanded with unique vehicles at all tiers, the devs just chose not to.
Please do more research
Here is my Italian top tier lineup, it’s completely unique. Not many other minor nations can say that
Both nations still have several domestic options, hence Italy doesn’t need to go under Germany.
Also pray tell which other tree the ww2 Hungarian tanks are found. You did say copy paste from other nations.
Further more some have domestic changes. I understand that our views on copy paste vary but still.
What business does Germany have with the S.81, L3/33, Re 2000, Cm52, Centauro, Breda trucks, P.108s, SM.79 series and G.55 (among many more)?
Same with the USSR with China and Israel with the USA.
I didn’t said that, I said it was given to poland.
To prove your point, a few air suggestions:
Spoiler
Ducrot S.L.D., too early?
Aerfer Leone: The last member of the Aerfer family
Aerfer- Aermacchi AEM3
Aermacchi M-311
SIAI Marchetti SF260 SW
Alenia MC27J Praetorian
AMX A11 T
Alenia Sky-X
Breda Ba.82.
Aermacchi MB-339X
Macchi M.C.99, the italian PBY Catalina at 90%.
CANT Z.501 "Gabbiano" I Serie 12 Idro
Fiat B.R.1, the italian Swordfish.
AUSA AUT 18, not good but not bad
Fiat G80-3B
Jona J.6S.
Breda Ba.65 A.80.
SAI Ambrosini 207 (MM 8433).
IMAM Romeo Ro.57bis.
Caproni Ca331C.N
Fiat C.R.42DB
Macchi C207: The last of the legacy
Fratelli Nardi FN.316M, the teacher gets mad.
Caproni Ca331 O.A. Raffica
Re.2001 Delta
I’ve seen a number of claims that are wrong. Of course that’s the ones about Poland already being dealt with, but the ones about Canadian’s need to be too.
Anyone who like Canada and Canadian stuff hates the current treatment. Your better off having nothing in game then to be treated like Canada. Heck some don’t even play entire BR ranges anymore.
Then there is the claim Canadian’s don’t support an independent tech-tree. No, most users I know who’ve said their Canadian, majority of which have shown the support for Canadian tree one way or another (even if it’s not always the same thing). Not to mention the other support though suggestions have.
As for the Leo, well the ADATS was already there to start a line-up with. And it’s addition was leaked, well a Canadian TT was not. Mix in what Gaijin said about Commonwealth additions it’s fair to be hopeful it’d join the tech already it game.
Vehicles, it’s been long proven that said claims to just wrong. For majority of nations that are talked about.
Sub-trees, I struggle to see how anyone still supports the failure of a system. All Nations losing stuff to event or other forms of unattainium, that should have been Tech tree because there’s no room or otherwise. Additions that feel like they’re meant buff the house tree without modeling any of the unique stuff for both nations or sometimes to nerf the host tree, with a vehicle less then useful.
That’s not to mention how the system fundamentally can’t work without trees are set up. As a TT is the nation it’s self, not the MIC or companies headquartered in those nations. Trying to stuff that into one line does not work. In order for sub trees to be a viable system they need to be reworked from the ground up aka from Zero.
Anyways Poland has my full support in either just self or with Czechoslovakia. I want the TKS tanks. Along with more nations with WW2 BRs.
hahahaha please be serious hahah
To call the OF-40 “a pure Italian design” is pure nonsense. It borrowed most of its design from the Leopard I.
M47/105 is almost entirely American minus the gun. Just like the M-51, which should have been in the US tree.
Alright, you either are inbred or ragebaiting at this point
jhahsahsahsaha
Well in that case give the UK it’s locust and all the p-51s, we’re the ones who requested it.
Both were 100% American designed and manufactured. But even if you had a point as to the locust in the American tree, the locust makes up like .3% of the entire US tech tree. When it comes to Italy, it’s closer to 50% of all vehicles which have no association with Italy (i.e. hungarian vehicles) or which are slightly modified from their domestic counterparts. When it comes to Poland, more than 90% of the tree is composed of slightly modified vehicles or just copy-paste.
To sum why you mad is mainly beacsue we dared to Critisize TEC, as far as i could tell, mainly beacsue you share same “tech tree mindset” as him.
Log off for the day bruh
If you are just going to make stuff up and criticize you should find another thread or game to be apart of
You know that ragebaiting is not gonna help the polish techtree in any way right?
If anything it’s helping give the tree and the linked Italian suggestions more traction
And 67% of statistics are made up just like this one
Also we gave the Americans specifications and other things to apply to the design of the p51
Yes but if anyone comes in here reading the actually comments he will see some guy defending the Polish tree with stupid arguments and a lot of people against him. Talking about impressions…
And a lot of misinformation, where did he get 90% copy & paste from