Yes, but even low/mid-tier italy is primarily composed of copy-paste vehicles from other nations. Italy’s own domestic contributions to its own tree are few and far between, and are not sufficient to stand alone. Note- if they wanted to add a mediterranean tree that had enough domestic vehicles to work, that would be fine.
Sure, things like the STRV 121s and 122s should have gone to Germany because they are just leopards with slight changes. They didnt need to add a bunch of copy-paste swedish vehicles. I dont see whats controversial about that.
There’s a reason that this community is thank fully not in charge of the game, tech tree’s will be added in 2026 no point arguing about what is copy & paste compared to what we have in game, time to start comparing which potential tech tree’s will be the least copy & paste.
(Forgot to scratch the zsu-23-4v, M109G, P-47 and zsu-57-2 point still stands)
Also note that Hungary has most of the copy and paste, a subtree widely regarded as the lowest effort one due to the available options from Hungary.
And the other original Swedish/Finish vehicles? Or is this just exclusivity for a vehicle with actual gameplay differences to another? Germany has plenty of its own leopard 2s and 1s to get.
Sweden was a net plus because it added a batch of new vehicles and modifications without costing anyone else any tree slots. Same with a PL-CZ (and maybe UKR) tree, same with LATAM, same with Yugoslavia.
Pre war vehicles are all unique. The air tree is unique until about mid rank 3.
During the communist times there were plenty of unique vehicles made in Poland and in collaboration with czechoslavokia (SKOT, TOPAS).
Matter of fact, SKOT served as a sort of basis for many modern APCs like the Stryker and others
I doubt you did any research, and additionally this tech tree is rather small than what it could be and would be more realistic for the devs. I have a much larger ground and air tree that has plenty of unique vehicles, more than most minor nations.
Also by your logic the UK should’ve gone to America due to all the lend lease vehicles and US cold war vehicles.
Also yeah, Germany does have some air issues, but Italy has some ground issues. Instead of making two different trees they should have just been combined to let the trees play off of each lthers strengths.
I’ve seen a number of claims that are wrong. Of course that’s the ones about Poland already being dealt with, but the ones about Canadian’s need to be too.
Anyone who like Canada and Canadian stuff hates the current treatment. Your better off having nothing in game then to be treated like Canada. Heck some don’t even play entire BR ranges anymore.
Then there is the claim Canadian’s don’t support an independent tech-tree. No, most users I know who’ve said their Canadian, majority of which have shown the support for Canadian tree one way or another (even if it’s not always the same thing). Not to mention the other support though suggestions have.
As for the Leo, well the ADATS was already there to start a line-up with. And it’s addition was leaked, well a Canadian TT was not. Mix in what Gaijin said about Commonwealth additions it’s fair to be hopeful it’d join the tech already it game.
Vehicles, it’s been long proven that said claims to just wrong. For majority of nations that are talked about.
Sub-trees, I struggle to see how anyone still supports the failure of a system. All Nations losing stuff to event or other forms of unattainium, that should have been Tech tree because there’s no room or otherwise. Additions that feel like they’re meant buff the house tree without modeling any of the unique stuff for both nations or sometimes to nerf the host tree, with a vehicle less then useful.
That’s not to mention how the system fundamentally can’t work without trees are set up. As a TT is the nation it’s self, not the MIC or companies headquartered in those nations. Trying to stuff that into one line does not work. In order for sub trees to be a viable system they need to be reworked from the ground up aka from Zero.
Anyways Poland has my full support in either just self or with Czechoslovakia. I want the TKS tanks. Along with more nations with WW2 BRs.
