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Our follow-up ASEAN Founders Ground Sub-TT Suggestion:
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On August 8, 1967, the foreign ministers of Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, Singapore and Thailand met in Bangkok, Thailand to sign the ASEAN Declaration, establishing the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN). These five leaders – Adam Malik (Indonesia), Narciso R. Ramos (Philippines), Tun Abdul Razak (Malaysia), S. Rajaratnam (Singapore) and Thanat Khoman (Thailand) – are now considered the founding fathers of ASEAN, which has become arguably the most successful intergovernmental organization of the developing world.
The ASEAN Declaration was a simple but formative document consisting of five articles. It stated that ASEAN was created to promote regional cooperation in economic, social, cultural, educational and technical areas and to support peace and stability through respect for law and justice. Member states declared that ASEAN expresses the collective will of Southeast Asia to create a community and cooperate to ensure peace, freedom and prosperity for its peoples. They committed to upholding the principles of the United Nations Charter, with the goal of creating a safe and peaceful space for all Southeast Asian countries.
The formation of ASEAN came at a time of regional tension and after protracted negotiations that ultimately led to success through a mix of diplomatic skill and informal, cooperative approaches - referred to as “sports shirt diplomacy”. The ASEAN Declaration was created in response to the conflicts and challenges of the time. Thailand played a key role in mediating between Indonesia, the Philippines and Malaysia, and suggested harnessing the potential of a common platform to address security concerns and economic dependence. This belief led the five nations to join forces to promote regional stability and a common approach to economic dependence on developed countries.
Each foreign minister brought a unique perspective to the talks. Philippine Foreign Minister Ramos stressed the need for unity to counter the “risk of fragmentation” of Southeast Asian economies. Indonesian Minister Adam Malik spoke of a vision of a stable Southeast Asia that can insulate itself from outside influences and sustain itself through cooperation. Malaysia’s Tun Abdul Razak called on countries to take responsibility for their future and see each other as partners. Singapore’s Foreign Minister Rajaratnam called for a new mindset that balances national interests with regional needs and warned against “Balkanization” of the region by outside powers. Thanat Khoman, Thai Foreign Minister, described ASEAN as a platform through which Southeast Asian nations could achieve their social and economic goals and build long-term stability.
The ASEAN Declaration not only set out the vision of a stable and cooperative region, but also established a way of working based on small steps and voluntary agreements. This approach allowed members to overcome differentiated positions and conflicts of interest without jeopardizing cooperation. ASEAN developed in the following decades and established important treaties such as the Treaty of Amity and Cooperation (1976) and the Treaty on a Nuclear-Weapon-Free Zone in Southeast Asia (1995).
Today, ASEAN is not only an important regional organization in Southeast Asia, but a crucial player in the entire Asia-Pacific region. The founding vision of creating a community of states linked by dialogue, cooperation and mutual support is a foundation that remains relevant today. The ten rice shafts in the ASEAN logo symbolize the unity of all Southeast Asian countries and reflect the goal of promoting economic and social development, resolving conflicts through dialogue and creating a closely connected community.
The suggested ASEAN Sub-Tree’s includes the founding ASEAN member states of Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, Singapore and Thailand. This Sub-Tree’s supports the existing selection of vehicles in the Japanese tech tree and fills vital roles to the gameplay of War Thunder that in many cases cannot be filled with domestic Japanese vehicles; what is missing is variation, especially in the top tier area, in all three sectors of ground, helicopter and aircraft, especially MBTs, air defence, support vehicles (incl. ATGMs) and CAS…
Japan keeps cooperative relations with ASEAN, having first established dialogue relations with ASEAN in 1973, and formalized them in 1977. A Comprehensive Economic Partnership agreement between ASEAN and Japan was signed at the ASEAN-Japan Summit in October 2003. In November 2014 the first ASEAN-Japan defense Minister meeting was held, concluding that defense cooperation to deal with non-traditional threats such as humanitarian assistance and disaster relief, maritime security, counterterrorism, peacekeeping operations, humanitarian mine action as well as cyber security would be continued into the future.
In a gameplay related sense, the suggested Sub-Tree’s would primarily help the generally lacking capabilities of the tech tree and the rather sparse selection of vehicles from Rank V (5) onwards. These vehicles would also help steer the game away from fictional “paper” vehicles, such as the R2Y2 series that Gaijin already announced they would be planning to remove once suitable replacements are found, or the F-16AJ, a proposed aircraft added to fill a gap between Japan’s F-4EJ Kai and their earliest F-15J variant. Such fictional aircraft could be properly replaced with the advent of the ASEAN Sub-Tree’s.
The choice of limiting the Sub-Tree’s to the founding members of ASEAN rather than all 10 member states was decided to limit the otherwise excessive amount of vehicles necessary to represent the Sub-Tree’s, as well as keep the majority of the tech tree with western/NATO aligned equipment, with just a very few unique exceptions in Eastern style for more diversity and indifferent representation of Nations, but also to by mainly taking Western-oriented nations, while Myanmar for example can be considered for China. The low amount of Japanese vehicle options when compared to other nations also works in favor of the Sub-Tree’s, allowing for suitable representation for each of the founding ASEAN members. The Sub-Tree’s offers enough vehicle options to focus on interesting modified or unique aircraft rather than relying on excessive amounts of existing vehicles aka “Copy n’ Paste”.
This addition will greatly help the appeal of the tech tree and help bridge the gap in capability and variety when compared to other in-game tech trees, benefiting the general balance of the game.
The ASEAN Air Sub-TT, consisting of the Southeast Asian nations of Thailand, Singapore, Indonesia, Malaysia and the Philippines, is as tailored as possible to uniqueness and gap-filling. The R2Y2 will be replaced by strike aircraft and new bombers, the lack of CAS options from Rank III (3) will be remedied up to the top tier and supported by further future or alternative options. Here and there, some gaps seem a bit larger, but these are mostly either intentional so as not to overload the tree, or don’t matter as Japan fills these with domestic equipment (e.g. F-2, F-15J, F-15J(M)).
As a small statistic; we have around 60% unique (nation specific variants, domestic and non in-game) new additions, around 25% imported but modified content and the remaining being C&P or not definable.
In the following list you can see possible future options, as well as potential additional options (honorable mentions), which we did not want or could not include in the TT for various reasons. Both lists may be expanded in the future. Also remember that not everything needs to be added, we have added what met our criteria but also enough / the most necessary to represent each of the participating nations equally, even if one or the other addition does not seem to fit, It is also about bringing the best possibilities into the spotlight and not just the most necessary or most fitting.
Future Options:
- KF-21 (Indonesia)
- Rafale C F.4 (Indonesia)
- F-15IDN (F-15EX Indonesia)
- FA-50M Block 20M (Malaysia)
- Gripen E (Thailand)
Honorable Mentions:
- NU-200 (Indonesia)
- NU-225 (Indonesia)
- Lim-6 (Indonesia)
- F-16C Block 52ID (Indonesia)
- F-16AM Block 15 Falcon Star eMLU (Indonesia)
- RTAF-5 (SWDC) (Thailand)
- AT-33 (Thailand)
- L-39 Albatros (Thailand)
- A-7E (Thailand)
- F-5E (SCU) (Thailand)
- Gripen C (Thailand)
- AS.221 (Philippines)
- OV-10M SLEP (Philippines)
- CL-41G (Malaysia)
- A-4PTM (Malaysia)
- Su-30MKM (Malaysia)
The Battle Ratings (BR), Roles and Tech Tree placements are rough estimates for illustrative purposes only and can be ignored.
Rank III (3)
OV-10F
The OV-10F is an export variant of the OV-10A for Indonesia, equipped with either 7.62mm M60C machine guns, or heavier 12.7mm Browning M2HB machine guns. It can carry a variety of ground attack ordnance including different rockets, general purpose bombs and incendiary bombs. It cannot carry AIM-9 air to air missiles
Suggestion Link: OV-10F Bronco: The American Wild Horse with Soviet bombs
Characteristics:
- Crew: 2
- Powerplant: 2x Garrett T76-G-410/412 (715shp)
- Maximum speed: 452km/h
- Rate of climb: 15.3m/s
Armaments:
- 4x 7.62mm machine guns
OR- 4x 12.7mm machine guns
- 2.75in FFAR rockets
- S-5/S-5M rockets
- Mk. 81/82 250/500lb bombs
- OFAB 100/250 bombs
- FAB 100/250/500 bombs
- ZAB 100/250/500 incendiary bombs
- 300gl drop tank
T-28D-10
The T-28D-10 is Thailand’s attack capable advanced trainer aircraft, capable of carrying a variety of armament ranging from 7.62mm and 12.7mm machine guns to various types of rockets, general purpose and incendiary bombs.
Suggestion Link: North American T-28D-10 Trojan - Royal Thai Air Force's Strike Trainer
Characteristics:
- Crew: 2
- Powerplant: Wright R-1820-86 (1425hp)
- Maximum speed: 552km/h
- Rate of climb: 19.2m/s
Armaments:
- 2x 12.7mm machine gun
- 6x 7.62mm machine gun
- 2.75in FFAR rockets
- M30A1/57A1/64A1 100/250/500lb bombs
- Mk.81/82 250/500lb bombs
- M117 750lb bombs
- 250/500/750lb incendiary bombs (various types)
Rank IV (4)
B-26B Invader
The B-26B has eight M3 Browning offensive armaments, with additional 6 12.7mm M3 Browning inside underwing gunpods and the usual 2 turrets with two 12.7mm Brownings in each turret. It could carry a variety of 1960s Soviet bombs, Swiss-made napalm, and SURA rockets.
Suggestion Link: Douglas B-26B "Kalong" - "Invader's Last Hurrah in Indonesia"
Characteristics:
- Crew: 3
- Powerplant: 2x Pratt & Whitney R-2800-27 Double Wasp
- Maximum speed: 569km/h
- Maximum g-load: 8G
Armaments:
- 8x 12.7mm AN/M3 Browning machine guns (in the nose)
- 4x 12.7mm AN/M3 Browning machine guns underwing gun pods (two MG under each wing)
- 2x 12.7mm AN/M3 Browning machine guns underwing gun pods (one MG under each wing)
- 2x 37mm M9 cannons (in the nose, optional)
- 1x 75mm T13E1 cannon (in the nose, optional)
- 4x 12.7mm AN/M2 Browning machine guns defensive turrets
- 4x 500lb Mk 82 bombs
- 4x 250kg OFAB-250sv bombs
- 4x 250kg ZAB-250 incendiary bombs
- 4x 250kg RBK-250 cluster bombs
- 4x Opalm napalm bombs
- 20x PTAB bombs
- 8x HVAR rockets (four under each wing)
- 8x Hispano Suiza SURA rockets (two racks with four rockets under each wing)
OA-37B
The OA-37B is an observation and light attack aircraft armed with an M134 7.62mm rotary cannon as well as 8 hardpoints for various types of bombs, FFAR rockets and 7.62mm gun pods. Unlike the regular A-37B, the OA-37B is equipped with an air-refueling probe.
Suggestion Link: Cessna OA-37B Dragonfly - Royal Thai Air Force’s little Dragon
Characteristics:
- Crew: 2
- Powerplant: 2x General-Electric J85-GE-17A
- Thrust: 1,295kgf
- Maximum speed: 816km/h
- Rate of climb: 35.5m/s
Armaments:
- 1x 7.62mm machine gun
- 7.62mm machine gun pods
- 2.75in FFAR rockets (7/19 tube launchers)
- Mk. 36 500lb Destructor bombs
- Mk. 81/82 250/500lb bombs
- 500/750lb incendiary bombs
T-610 Super Pinto
The T-610 Super Pinto was originally designed by American Jet Industries. As the aircraft didn’t find any interest within the USAF it was sold to the Philippines, where a second prototype was completed before the project was halted due to economic struggles.
Suggestion Link: AJI T610 'Cali' Super Pinto - The Philippines' attempt at a Domestic Jet Trainer
Characteristics:
- Crew: 1
- Powerplant: General Electric CJ610-4
- Dry thrust: 1295kgf
- Maximum speed: 843km/h
- Rate of climb: 47m/s
Armaments:
- 2x 7.62mm machine guns
- 2.75in FFAR rockets
- up to 400kg of bombs
Rank V (5)
AT-6TH Wolverine
The AT-6TH is a Thai turboprop light attack aircraft armed with a wide range of guided and unguided weaponry. While IRIS-T missiles are planned to be used with the type, they are omitted for balance reasons.
Suggestion Link: Beechcraft AT-6TH Wolverine - Royal Thai Air Force's Werewolf
Characteristics:
- Crew: 2
- Powerplant: 1x Pratt & Whitney PT6A-68D (1,600shp)
- Maximum speed: Mach 0.67
- Rate of climb: 35.5m/s
- Maximum g-load: +7G/-3.5G
Armaments:
- 4x HMP400 gun pod
- 6x AGM-114B / K / N
- 4x APKWS II
- 4x 2.75in Hydra 70 rockets (7 tube launchers)
- 6x Mk.81 250lb bombs
- 4x Mk.82 500lb bombs
- 2x GBU-12
- 2x GBU-58
- Wescam MX-15Di EO/IR
A-29B Super Tucano
The A-29B is a Filipino turboprop light attack aircraft armed with a wide range of guided and unguided weaponry. While MAA-1A missiles are used on it, they are omitted for balance reasons.
Characteristics:
- Crew: 2
- Powerplant: 1x Pratt & Whitney PT6A-68C (1,604shp)
- Maximum speed: 590 km/h
- Rate of climb: 16.4 m/s
- Maximum g-load: +7G/-3.5G
Armaments:
- 2x HP M3P 12.7mm guns
- LAU-68A/G
- LM-70/19
- Various bombs
Hawk MK.53
The Hawk MK.53 is an export variant of the Hawk T.1 trainer for Indonesia. Similar to the British T.1, the Hawk Mk.53 is capable of carrying ordinance for light-ground strike in addition to its role as advanced trainer; with the notable addition of a drag chute for reduced turn-around time. Unlike the T.1 or other Hawk variants however, the Mk.53 never received AAM or any guided-munition capabilities through its service.
Suggestion Link: (Not suggested)
Characteristics:
- Crew: 2
- Powerplant: 1x Rolls-Royce Turbomeca Limited Adour Mk.851
- Dry thrust: 2,359kgf
- Maximum speed: Mach 0.81 at Sea Level
- Rate of climb: 47m/s
- Maximum g-load: +7.5G/-4G
Armaments:
*Note; The armament is incomplete, will expand
Suspended Ordinance
Station 1 Station 2 Station 3 Station 4 Station 5 2.75 in FFAR rockets 7 7 7 7 30mm ADEN gunpod (120 rpg) 1 120 gallon drop tank 1 1
Aermacchi MB-339A
Two seat Combat-Trainer with good medium CAS armament and 30mm guns pods for self-defence.
Characteristics:
- Crew: 2
- Powerplant: 1x Rolls-Royce Viper Mk. 632
- Thrust: 17,8 kN
- Maximum speed: 898 km/h
- Rate of climb: 34 m/s
- Maximum g-load: +8g / -4g
Armaments:
- 2x 30mm gun Pods
- 2x FFAR Pods
- ?x Mk.82
IL-28T
The IL-28T is the torpedo bomber version of the IL-28 in service with the Indonesian Navy, featuring a lengthened bomb bay and compatibility with 45-56NT and RAT-52 torpedoes.
Suggestion Link: (Not suggested)
Characteristics:
- Crew: 3
- Powerplant: Klimov VK-1A
- Dry thrust: 2722kgf
- Maximum speed: 905km/h
- Rate of climb: 20m/s
Armaments:
- 2x 23mm cannons (fixed)
- 2x 23mm cannons (rear turret)
- 12x FAB 100 bombs
- 8x FAB 250 bombs
- 2x FAB 500 bombs
- FAB 1500/3000 bombs
- 45-56NT torpedoes
- RAT-52 torpedoes
Tu-16KS-1
Indonesia is the only country beside Egypt to be the export costumer of Tu-16KS-1. It could carry up to 9,000kg of bombload. Aside from carrying the usual bombs, it able to carry two KS-1 Komet anti-ship missiles, with one missile under each wing. It was defended by six 23mm NR-23 cannons spread between 3 turrets. It also have a single forward facing 23mm NR-23 cannon. In the cargo compartment, instead of bombs, a hermetically sealed operator’s cabin was installed with some of the K-3 system units, the K-1M radar, high-altitude equipment, and an ejection seat (the K-1M emphasised textantenna, together with the transmitting and receiving units, was covered with a radio-transparent fairing and had two positions: stowed - retracted into the lower part of the fuselage, and combat - released into the air flow)*. Gameplay wise, bombs can be still be added, but the use of conventional bombs (up to 9000kg) along with KS-1 should not be possible, similar so how Fritz X has been implemented on He.117A-5.
Suggestion Link: not available
Characteristics:
- Crew: 6-7
- Powerplant: 2x Mikulin AM-3 M-500 turbojets
- Dry thrust: 93.2 kN (21,000 lbf) each
- Maximum speed: 1,050km/h
Armaments:
- 1x offensive 23mm NR-23 cannon
- 6x defensive 23mm NR-23 cannons
- 2x KS-1 Komet
F-86L
The F-86L is the final evolution of the Sabre Dog series, featuring the retractable rocket tray of the F-86D and the extended, slatted wings of the F-86F-40. Thailand operated 20 examples of this type.
Suggestion Link: North American F-86L-60-NA: All Rockets, No Guns (Suggested for the USA)
Characteristics:
- Crew: 1
- Powerplant: General Electric J47-GE-33
- Dry thrust: 2517kgf
- Afterburner thrust: 3470kgf
- Maximum speed: 1115km/h
- Rate of climb: 62m/s
Armaments:
- 24x 2.75in FFAR rockets
- 2x AIM-9B/P
- 2x 120gal drop tanks
Rank VI (6)
Alpha Jet TH
The Alpha Jet TH is a Thai modernized version of the Alpha Jet A featuring air to air missiles, a new ‘glass cockpit’ and Link-T datalink.
Suggestion Link: Dornier Alpha Jet TH (Phase 2) - Royal Thai Air Force's Renovated Alpha
Characteristics:
- Crew: 2
- Powerplant: 2x SNECMA Turbomeca Larzac 04-C20
- Thrust: 1,451kgf
- Maximum speed: 1,000km/h
- Rate of climb: 57m/s
- Maximum g-load: +8G/-3G
Armaments:
- 4x AIM-9P / P-4
- 4x 2.75in Hydra 70 rockets (7/19 tube launchers)
- 4x CRV7 (7/19 tube launchers)
- 6x Mk.82 500lb bombs
CAC CA-27 Mk.32 Sabre
The CA-27 Mk.32 has two 30mm cannons, 162 rounds each, as its main armament, as well as the ability to carry two AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles; although these have not been seen in RMAF service, the possibility of using them is there. For air-to-ground combat, the Sabre has a small selection of unguided rockets and bombs.
Suggestion Link: CA-27 Mk.32 Sabre - RMAF Butterworth’s old Gate Keeper
Characteristics:
- Crew: 1
- Powerplant: 1x Rolls-Royce Avon Mk.26
- Thrust: 3.289 kgf
- Maximum speed: 1.119 km/h
Armaments:
- 2x 30mm guns
- 2x AIM-9B
- 2x 100ib AN-M30
- 2x 250 lb AN-M57
- 2x 500 lb AN-M64
- 2x 1,000 lb AN-M65
- 2x BLU-1
- 30x RP-3 3-inch
- 20x HVAR 5-inch
- 20x Matra T10 5-inch
- 10x LAU-32
A-4SU
The A-4SU is Singapore’s final upgraded Skyhawk, featuring a new General Electric F404 engine, 30mm ADEN cannons and access to advanced guided air to ground ordnance including laser guided bombs and the Litening targeting pod.
Suggestion Link: https://old-forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/537258-st-aerospace-a-4su-super-skyhawk-skyhawk-ah-boys-to-men-edition/ (Old Forum Suggestion)
Characteristics:
- Crew: 1
- Powerplant: 1x General Electric F404-GE-100D
- Thrust: 4,935kgf
- Maximum speed: 1,128km/h
- Rate of climb: 55m/s
Armaments:
- 2x 30mm cannons
- 2x AIM-9P
- 2x AGM-65B / D
- 9x 68mm SNEB rockets (18 tube launchers)
- 9x 70mm CRV7 rockets (19 tube launchers)
- 9x 5in FFAR rockets (4 tube launchers)
- 20x Mk.81 250lb bombs
- 14x Mk.82 500lb bombs
- 5x Mk.83 1000lb bombs
- 3x Mk.84 2000lb bomb
- 3x GBU-10
- 3-9x GBU-12
- 3x 370gal drop tanks
- Litening targeting pod
BAE Hawk 108
Combat trainer as a supplement to the Hawk 208, practically a slimmed down version of these.
Characteristics:
- Crew: 2
- Powerplant: 1x Rolls-Royce Adour Mk.951
- Thrust: 28,89 kN
- Maximum speed: 1019 km/h
- Rate of climb: m/s
- Maximum g-load: +8g / -3g
Armaments:
- 1x 30mm gun Pod
- 2x AIM-9P
- 2x AIM-9P-4
- 2x AIM-9L
- ?x Mk.82
- ?x CRV7
Hunter F.74S
The Hunter F.74S is equipped with the standard 30mm ADEN cannons, but also features various further upgrades such as strengthened wings, additional pylons and countermeasure dispensers.
Suggestion Link: Hawker Hunter F.74S - RSAF's Special Modification
Characteristics:
- Crew: 1
- Powerplant: 1x Rolls-Royce Avon Mk.207
- Dry thrust: 4,602kgf
- Maximum speed: 1144km/h
- Rate of climb: 40.7m/s
Armaments:
- 4x 30mm cannons
- 4x AIM-9B/G/P
- 4x AGM-65B
- 72x 68mm SNEB rockets
- 32x 80mm SURA rockets
AV-8S
The AV-8S is an export variant of the AV-8A designed for the Spanish Navy equipped with air to air missiles, as well as unguided bombs and rockets. The aircraft were further upgraded with a new Sky Guardian 200 RWR before being bought by Thailand in 1998. In Spanish service, these carried air to air missiles on dual racks, making it possible to carry up to four air to air missiles.
Suggestion Link: Hawker Siddeley AV-8S - Royal Thai Navy's Harrier
Characteristics:
- Crew: 1
- Powerplant: 1x Rolls-Royce F402-RR-401
- Thrust: 9,625kgf
- Maximum speed: 1,156km/h
- Rate of climb: 87m/s
- Maximum g-load: +7.8G/-4.2G
Armaments:
- 2-4 AIM-9P / P-4 / L
- 4x 2.75in FFAR rockets (19 tube launchers)
- 4x 5in FFAR rockets (4 tube launchers)
- 5x Mk.77 750lb incendiary bombs
- 5x Mk.81/82 250/500lb bombs
- 2x Mk.83 1000lb bombs
Rank VII (7)
F-8H
F-8H in service with The Philippines. Refurbished for the 1977 purchase & service in the PAF, this aircraft is identical to it’s US counterpart, with notably inferior armament. While sporting the improvements in airframe & avionics of the variant as in late US service, the PAF did not acquire AAMs superior to the venerable AIM-9B until 2019 nor did they acquire any AGM-12 variant, leaving this plane under-armed for the duration of it’s short 11 years of service within the PAF from 77’ to 88’.
Suggestion Link: (Suggestion for US Tech Tree)
Characteristics:
- Crew: 1
- Powerplant: 1x P&W J57-P-420
- Dry thrust: 5,625kgf
- Afterburner thrust: 8,890kgf
- Maximum speed: Mach 1.8
- Rate of climb: 130m/s
- Maximum g-load: +7G/-3.5G
Armaments:
- 4 x 20 mm Browning-Colt Mk12 Mod 3 cannons, (125 rpg)
Wing Pylons
- 6-12x Mk.81 250lb bombs
- 6-8x Mk.82 500lb bombs
- 4-2x Mk.83 1000lb bombs
- 1-2x Mk.84 2000lb bombs
- 14-38-76x 2.75 in FFAR rockets (aka Mighty Mouse) (7/19 tube launchers)
- 8-16x 5 in FFAR (aka Zuni) rockets (4 tube launchers)
Y-Pylons
- 2-4x AIM-9B Sidewinder
- 4-8x 5 in FFAR (aka Zuni) rockets (2 tube launchers)
Hawk 209
Hawk 200 is a light fighter and strike aircraft developed from the BAE Hawk for export markets, with the Hawk 209 being the specific variant for Indonesia. Its armaments consisted of a single 30mm ADEN gunpod with 120 rounds, and it could carry AIM-9P, AGM-65, FFAR rockets, and various iron bombs. Its avionics consisted of AN/APG-66H radar, Ferranti LRF, Marconi FLIR, and upgraded RWR in the form of Finmeccanica’s SEER Self Protection.
Suggestion Link: (Suggestion for British tech tree)
Characteristics:
- Crew: 1
- Powerplant: 1 × Rolls-Royce Turbomeca Adour Mk 871 turbofan
- Dry thrust: 26 kN (5,800 lbf)
- Maximum speed: 1,037 km/h
- Rate of climb: 58.4 m/s
- Maximum g-load: 8 G
Armaments:
- 1x 30mm ADEN gunpod (120 rds)
- 2x AIM-9P-4 Sidewinder
- AGM-65G
- 250lb Mk 81 bombs
- 500lb Mk 82 bombs
- 360kg Mk 12 Mod 4 bombs
- LAU51 Mod 4 rocket pods for 2.75in FFAR
- 2x 864ltr drop tanks (+1 drop tank underbelly, mutually exclusive with the gunpod)
BAE Hawk 208
Single-seat, light multi-role fighter specifically for Malaysia. Modified to carry AGM-84, four AIM-9 and other armament.
Characteristics:
- Crew: 1
- Powerplant: 1x Rolls-Royce Avon Mk.207
- Thrust: 4,602 kgf
- Maximum speed: 1144 km/h
- Rate of climb: 40,7 m/s
- Maximum g-load: +8g / -3g
Armaments:
- 1x 30mm gun Pod
- 4x AIM-9P
- 4x AIM-9P-4
- 4x AIM-9L
- ?x AGM-84
- ?x Mk.82
- ?x CRV7
F-5E MACAN
The F-5E MACAN is Indonesia’s upgraded F-5. The upgrades include new ALR-91(V)3 RWR and AN/APQ-159 radar. Armament remained mostly unchanged with the exception of the capability to carry Indonesian P-100L 100kg bombs.
Suggestion Link: (Not suggested)
Characteristics:
- Crew: 1
- Powerplant: 2x General Electric J85-GE-21B
- Dry thrust: 1,480kgf
- Afterburner thrust: 2220kgf
- Maximum speed: 1777km/h
- Rate of climb: 149.1m/s
- Maximum g-load: +9G/-3G
Armaments:
- 2x 20mm cannons
- 2x AIM-9P
- 4x 2.75in FFAR rockets (19 tube launchers)
- 2x 5in FFAR rockets (4 tube launchers)
- 7-11x Mk.81 250lb bombs
- 5x Mk.82 500lb bombs
- 3x Mk.83 1000lb bombs
- 1x Mk.84 2000lb bombs
- P-100L
- 3x 150gal drop tanks
Rank VIII (8)
FA-50PH
The FA-50PH is the most capable combat aircraft in the current Philippine Air Force. This light multirole fighter is armed with an M197 20mm rotary cannon and the capability to carry IRCCM IR homing air to air missiles and a versatile variety of guided and unguided air to ground armament.
Suggestion Link: https://old-forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/550817-paf-fa-50ph-for-japan/ (Old Forum Suggestion)
Characteristics:
- Crew: 2
- Powerplant: General Electric F404-GE-102
- Dry thrust: 5412kgf
- Afterburner thrust: 8025kgf
- Maximum speed: Mach 1.5
- Rate of climb: 198m/s
- Maximum g-load: +8G/-3G
Armaments:
- 20mm cannon
- 2x AIM-9B / AIM-9L/I-1
- 4x AGM-65G2
- 5x M117 750lb bombs (optional JDAM kit)
- 9× Mk. 82 500lb bombs (optional JDAM kit)
- 8x GBU-12 / GBU-49 Paveway II
- Sniper targeting pod
F-16A-30 OCU
F-16A-30 OCU in service with Singapore. These differ from the regular Block 15 OCU in that they have the strengthened Block 30 airframe, as well as a drogue chute. All aircraft of this type were retired in favor pf newer F-16C/D models. In 2004 the remaining aircraft were sold off to Thailand where some still serve to this day.
Suggestion Link: (Not suggested)
Characteristics:
- Crew: 1
- Powerplant: Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-220
- Dry thrust: 6618kgf
- Afterburner thrust: 10778kgf
- Maximum speed: Mach 2.02
- Rate of climb: 305m/s
- Maximum g-load: +9G/-3.5G
Armaments:
- 20mm cannon
- 6x AIM-9P/L
- 6x AGM-65B/D
- 2.75mm FFAR rockets
- 19x Mk. 82 500 bombs
- 4x Mk. 84 2000lb bombs
- 2x 370gal drop tanks
- 300gal drop tank
Mikoyan-Gurewitsch MiG-29N Fulcrum-A
Initial delievered MiG-29 (9.12B) were retrofitted with a in-flight refuel probe and re-designated MiG-29N. Identical to current in-game MiG-29 (9.12)s, no internal Jammers.
Characteristics:
- Crew: 1
- Powerplant: 2x Klimov RD-33
- Dry thrust: 2x 50 kN
- Afterburner thrust: 2x 82 kN
- Maximum speed: 2.450 km/h
- Rate of climb: 330 m/s
- Maximum g-load: +9g / -3g
Armaments:
- 1x 30mm GSh-30-1
- 2x R-27(E)R1
- 2x R-27(E)T1
- 6x R-73E
- A2G identical to MiG-29A in-game
F-5TH
The F-5TH is the final modernization of Thailands Super Tigris featuring a modernized glass cockpit, new EL/M-2023 pulse-Doppler radar (at the cost of one M39A2 cannon), DASH HMD, as well as various new ordnance options. It is capable of carrying modern air to air missiles, including active radar homing Derby missiles, guided bombs, the Litening III targeting pod and SkyShield EW pod.
Suggestion Link: Northrop F-5TH Super Tigris - Royal Thai Air Force's Tiger Sharks Part: 2
Characteristics:
- Crew: 1
- Powerplant: 2x General Electric J85-GE-21B/C
- Dry thrust: 1,509kgf
- Afterburner thrust: 2,264kgf
- Maximum speed: 1,743km/h
- Rate of climb: 31.3m/s
- Maximum g-load: +9G/-3G
Armaments:
- 1x 20mm cannon
- 2x AIM-9L / M
- 2x IRIS-T
- 2-4x Python 4
- 2-4x Python 5
- 2-4x Derby
- 4x AGM-65B
- 4x 2.75in FFAR rockets (19 tube launchers)
- 2x 5in FFAR rockets (4 tube launchers)
- 5x 750lb incendiary bombs
- 5x Mk.82 500lb bombs
- 3x Mk.83 1000kb bombs
- 1x Mk.84 2000kb bomb
- 4x GBU-12 / Lizard guided bombs
- Litening III targeting pod
- SkyShield EW pod
McDonnell-Douglas F/A-18D (25X) Hornet
Initial F/A-18D were upgraded with 25X Software to get closer to Super Hornet, which also enabled to use of JDAM series bombs, AIM-9X Block 2, JHMCS and more. The IFF and other systems were improved and the Cockpits received new replacement parts.
Suggestion Link: Boeing F/A-18D (25X) Hornet - RMAF Butterworth’s Black Tebuan
Characteristics:
- Crew: 2
- Powerplant: 2x General-Electric F404-GE-402
- Dry thrust: 2x 53,3 kN
- Afterburner thrust: 2x 79,0 kN
- Maximum speed: Mach 1,8
- Rate of climb: 254 m/s
- Maximum g-load: +9g / -3g
Armaments:
- 1x 20mm M61A1
- 10x AIM-120C-5
- AIM-9M
- AIM-9X
- AGM-84A/D
- AGM-65G
- GBU-12
- …
F-16A (e)MLU
The F-16A (e)MLU is Thailand’s modernized F-16, equipped with new AN/APG-68(V)9 radar, more countermeasures, JHMCS and integration of the Sniper XR targeting pod. It can be armed with a variety of weapons including IRIS-T and AIM-120C missiles for air to air, and AGM-65G2 and GBU-10/12/16 for air to ground.
Suggestion Link: Lockheed-Martin F-16A Block 15 (e)MLU - Royal Thai Air Force's Renovated Falcon
Characteristics:
- Crew: 1
- Powerplant: 1x Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-200
- Dry thrust: 6,618kgf
- Afterburner thrust: 10,780kgf
- Maximum speed: Mach 2
- Rate of climb: 290m/s
- Maximum g-load: +9G/-3G
Armaments:
- 1x 20mm cannon
- 4x IRIS-T
- 6x AIM-9P-4 / L / M
- 6x AIM-120A / B / C-5
- 4x AGM-65D / G / G2
- 19x Mk.82 500lb bombs
- 4x Mk.84 2000lb bombs
- 4x GBU-10
- 4x GBU-12
- 4x GBU-16
- AN/AAQ-33 Sniper XR ATP
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F-16D+ (Late)
The F-16D+ (Late) is a recent upgrade to Singapore’s fleet of F-16 aircraft. It adds, among other things, an extended air to ground arsenal and AN/APG-83 AESA radar. It also integrates Israeli Python 5 air to air missiles.
Suggestion Link: Lockheed-Martin F-16D+ Block 52 (Late) - The Sufa of Southeast Asia
Characteristics:
- Crew: 2
- Powerplant: 1x Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-229
- Dry thrust: 8,056kgf
- Afterburner thrust: 13,226kgf
- Maximum speed: Mach 2.0
- Maximum g-load: +9G/-3.5G
Armaments:
- 1x 20mm cannon
- 6x AIM-9P-4/M
- 4x Python 5
- 6x AIM-120C-5/C-7
- 4x AGM-65G
- AGM-84
- various dump bombs
- GBU-16
- GBU-49
- GBU-50
- GBU-39
- GBU-54
F-15SG
The F-15SG is a dedicated F-15E variant for the Singaporean Air Force and a significant upgrade over the F-15E and F-15i Ra’am. Featuring AN/APG-63(V)3 AESA, MAWS, improved EW suit and F110-GE-129C engines.
Suggestion Link: Boeing F-15SG Strike Eagle - The RSAF's Sledgehammer
Characteristics:
- Crew: 2
- Powerplant: 1x Pratt & Whitney F110-GE-129C
- Dry thrust: 79 kN
- Afterburner thrust: 129.7 kN
- Maximum speed: Mach 2.5
- Maximum g-load: +9G/-3.0G
Armaments:
- 1x 20mm cannon
- 4x AIM-9M/X
- 8x AIM-120C-5/C-7
- AGM-65D/G
- AGM-84
- various dump bombs
- GBU-31(V)1
- GBU-31(V)3
- GBU-10
- GBU-12
- GBU-24
- GBU-28/B
- GBU-38
- GBU-39
- GBU-54
- AGM-154 JSOW
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MRCA: Fulcrum and Retirement - Malaysian Defence
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https://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/Visit/Museum-Exhibits/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/196029/north-american-t-28b-trojan/
RTAF Trojan
T-28 - AVIATION HERITAGE CENTER OF WISCONSIN
T-28 Trojan
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Achieving Superiority: Modernising the Royal Thai Air Force
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AT–6 Wolverine: On the prowl - AOPA
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https://www.dsca.mil/sites/default/files/mas/singapore_13-67.pdf
Assets
Rafael Arms F-16 Fighters With Israeli Python Air-To-Air Missiles; US AIM-9 Sidewinder ‘Sidelined’ For RSAF Jets
https://www.mindef.gov.sg/web/portal/mindef/news-and-events/latest-releases/article-detail/2023/september/24sep23_fs/!ut/p/z1/tVJNU4MwEP0tHjim2QYo6A0_xo8R60e1JRcH6AZQSBBi0X_vVh0dZ6yOB3Pbl_d2376ES77gUqerqkhtZXRaU53IyW0w3d87Ak-cTf3ZGKKb2ezU3z07vg4m_IZLLtu8WvIEfU8hiJAtfZwwT-SKha7wmErz0A39LAvz8Zqda9vakidNpZeoWG60RW0dKE2DDmgcepbqJcMVob0DdWqxt6zDGtMeCRAgXAd6bC02GXYEeFQI91b1fP6bX0nXsOFEQHr5SpleeIdjD8TpNL70qcP2djiDcwGHwTvhhx4JeQg2ewj4fFXhwK-16RqK-OqPCR4BP3m18MOW9GzV3cODjCjtdbxPli_-I26aI7p4Ly5og9SWrNLK8MVawRcfCgI-FWS9qE329rUinbkhaTtU2GE3euwILq1t-x0HHBiGYVQYU9Q4yk3jwHeS0vS021cmb5smdJ_ZvYoPXE9mz4OKrZ9EWy-CA0WK/dz/d5/L2dBISEvZ0FBIS9nQSEh/?urile=wcm%3Apath%3A%2Fmindef-content%2Fhome%2Fnews-and-events%2Flatest-releases%2F2023%2FSeptember%2F24sep23_fs
https://www.mindef.gov.sg/web/portal/pioneer/article/regular-article-detail/milestones/2022-Q3/01sep22_news1
https://www.baesystems.com/en/heritage/hawker-hunter
OV-10F Bronco - “Kuda Liar” Pelibas GPK
Books / Other:
Douglas A-4 Skyhawk: Attack & Close-Support Fighter Bomber - Jim Winchester (2005)
Mikoyan MiG-29 Fulcrum - Multi-role Fighter - Gorden E. (1999)
Famous Russian Aircraft Mikoyan MiG-29 - Yefim Gordon (2006)
Sukhoi Su-30 Super-Manoeuvrable Family: Su-30MKI / MKM / MKI (A) / SM - Hugh Harkins (2016)
Capsula Espacial N° 87 - Northrop F-5 Freedom Fighter/T-38 Talon - Juan Biagi (2023)
Kites, Birds & Stuff - Northrop Aircraft - P. D. Stemp (2019)
Defense Security Cooperation Agency - Transmittal No. 10-54
Civil Airworthiness Certification: Former Military High-Performance Aircraft - Miguel Vasconcelos (2013)
McDonnell Dougles F-15 Eagle (2nd Edition) - Greg Goebel (2018)
The F-15 Story - The Ultimate Air Dominance Weapon - Jeff D. Noble (2023)
Aerofax Tupolev Tu-16 Badger Versatile Soviet Long-Range Bomber - Y. Gordon and V. Rigmant (2004)
