Northrop F-5E SCU Tigris - Royal Thai Air Force's Tiger Sharks Part: 1

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Northrop F-5E SCU Tigris - Royal Thai Air Force’s Tiger Sharks Part: 1

Hi and welcome to my 47th, which is about the Thai F-5E SCU, also referred as F-5T, hope you like it. :popcorn:

First of all:

  • This is a suggestion for an aircraft we could see in game at some point in the Future , that doesn´t mean next Patch or somewhere in the near Future
  • Feel free to share more Information and / or correct me if something is wrong
  • Discuss respectfully, any aggressive kind or verbal abuse will be reported, the Forum rules also apply here
  • Actually there were supposed to be three parts, but since Gaijin surprised us with the F-5E FCU, there will only be two. Nevertheless, I will partially include the FCU in this part, but also exlude the “Overall” part in these, as all are very similar and there is not much to say about them.

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Background History

Development of the F-5 began in the 1950s when a Northrop team visited Europe and Asia to explore the needs of NATO and SEATO. Based on these requirements, a design study for a low-cost and easy-to-maintain lightweight supersonic fighter started in 1955. The first flight of the F-5 took place in July 1959.
Although the US Air Force showed no interest in such a fighter, the T-38 Talon trainer version was approved in June 1956 to replace the T-33. In April 1962, the F-5 was selected for the Military Assistance Program (MAP) to enable allied countries to purchase an inexpensive fighter aircraft.
In August 1962, the aircraft received the official designation F-5A “Freedom Fighter”, and Iran was the first country to order it. The low price, which was only about a third of what an F-4 cost, also motivated other Western countries to buy the new small sized fighter.
The development of an improved F-5 started in the late 1960s. The aim of the development was to create an aircraft for Western allies who were facing a growing threat from modern variants of the MiG-21 from the Warsaw Pact countries. This development lead to the F-5E / F.
The Royal Thai Air Force acquired the F-5E and F-5F Tiger Shark in the 1980s and continues to operate them today. In 1988 the Royal Thai Air Force’s F-5 fleet began to be modernized. The gyro gun sight was replaced by a new HUD with weapon aiming computer from GEC Macroni, as well as the ability to use the Israeli Python-3 missile. This version is known as First Capability Upgrade (FCU).
In 2002, the Israeli company Elbit was commissioned to modernize the F-5 fleet again. The F-5E SCU (Second Capability Upgrade), also referred as F-5T, a further development and the second combat capability upgrade Phase that Thailand carried out on the F-5 Tiger II starting in 2002. Part of the changes was that a DASH for the pilot’s helmet and HOTAS were installed; The weapons arsenal was supplemented with the Python-4 and AIM-9M.


DASH

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Armament of the F-5E SCU Tigris

The SCU’s armament differs only slightly from the FCU, which is already in the game; The most noticeable are the new Python-4 missiles, which find their place on the wing tip pylons. It is not clear whether it is still possible to carry four air-to-air missiles. If it is still possible, 2x Python-4 + 2x Python-3 would be an interesting loadout.

Air-to-Air Missiles

  • 2x AIM-9P-4
  • 2x AIM-9L / M
  • 2-?x Python-3
  • 2-?x Python-4

Guided- / Dumb- Bombs, Missiles & Rockets

  • 5x BLU-1
  • 5x Mk.82
  • 3x Mk.83
  • 1x Mk.84

  • 4x AGM-65B

  • 4x FFAR
  • 2x Zuni Mk.32

Specifications, Electronics and Internal

  • Crew: 1
  • Length: 14,45 m
  • Wingspan: 8,13 m
  • Height: 4,08 m
  • Max. takeoff weight: 11.187 kg
  • Powerplant: 2x General Electric J85-GE-21B/C
    • Dry thrust: 2 × 14,8 kN
    • Afterburner thrust: 2 × 22,2 kN
  • Maximum speed: 1743 km/h
  • Service ceiling: 15.790 m
  • Rate of climb: 31,3 m/s
  • Maximum g-load: +9g / -3g

Follow up Suggetion

Thanks for your time, hope you liked it :salute:
[Will add more if there are some (more) important / declassified things]
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Sources:

Links

The Progress of RTAF’s F-5 Tiger II Capability Upgrade | Thai Military and Asian Region
F-5E Tiger II & F-5T-Tigris/Super Tigris of the Royal Thai Air Force | Thai Military and Asian Region
AAG_th บันทึกประจำวัน: กองทัพอากาศไทยจะทำการปรับปรุงเครื่องบินขับไล่ F-5 Super Tigris
อัพเกรดแล้ว “F-5TH” เสือโคตรดุ ทอ.ไทย เทียบชั้นเครื่องขับไล่ยุค 4.5
DEFENSE STUDIES: The Progress of RTAF’s F-5 Tiger II Capability Upgrade


List of Suggestions of ASEAN region

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+1 Oh damn, i thought only brazilian F-5 could carry Python-4, guess im wrong lul

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+1 absolutely

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Hopefully, since this one appears to have the larger chisel-shaped LERX and “Shark” nose (same as what the F-20 has), Gaijin might be willing to model it with a slightly better/improved turn rate compared to the other F-5Es. It’d be a nice little detail!

+1 from me!

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The F-5 package will focus primarily on improvements to the F-5’s weapons and navigation systems. Work will include installing a replacement Elbit mission computer, new electronic countermeasure systems, radar warning receiver and improved identification friend or foe system. The improvements build on an earlier upgrade of Thailand’s F-5, which included a GEC-Marconi HUDWAC head-up display and Litton inertial navigation system (INS).

The aircraft were also modified to carry the Rafael Python 3 air to air missile, and providing additional funds can be found, it is suggested the Python 4 missile will also be procured. It had originally been hoped to fit a new multi-mode radar to the F-5. Because of budgetary constraints, the RTAF will instead refurbish its Emerson APG-153/157/159 radars.

+1 from me also, because IFF (source - some old internet article Thais finalise F- 5 upgrade plan | News | Flight Global)

anyone got more info about RTAF F-5 upgrading?

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From recent Datamine

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Wait… it’s F-5E SCU or F-5T SCU?

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Both the same, actual name is just not clear.

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They removed it now, sad

Two F-5T mentioned!

Quite exciting! Wonder if they’ll add in any other Thai stuff this patch

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Thai sub tree before next year!

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Lol I hope, or even a partial ASEAN Sub TT

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soooo, looks like we have F-5 SCU, but why SCU has only two AAMs if SCU was upgrade from FCU?

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Yes, I’m curious too.

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It should be able to carry Python 3 with its underwing pylons. I’ve filed the report, please check if this is enough.

Gaijin.net // Issues

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Neat picture of some Thai F-5Ts (presumably SCUs) I found:

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I swear thai F-5Es have the IHQ modification. The nose and LERX look extremely similiar to the swiss F-5s that recieved the upgrade

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Oh, they do
Or at least they ended up purchasing new-build F-5E/Fs with it after they had gotten their initial batch (without it).
The Taiwanese F-5E should also have the LERXs and auto-flap system

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Has the IHQ kit been modeled on the SCU, or by extension FCU, or did gaijin pull a gaijin and not bother (simply copy and paste U.S. F-5E FM). The taiwanese should get K Config upgrade. Its make it a fair bit better maneuverability wise.

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