Remove the R-27ER from the early Mig-29 variants

Currently the early Mig-29 variants ingame are able to carry the R-27E series of missiles, which is ahistorical. The Mig-29 variants entered service before the R-27ER and those missiles were not exported to East Germany or Hungary, for example.

This causes a balancing issue ingame due to the R-27ER being such a potent SARH missile and the R-60m being pretty mediocre for the Mig-29’s br.

A simple solution to that problem would be to remove the R-27E from both the Mig-29 9.12 and 9.13 variants in exchange for the R-73 which was historically developed in conjunction with the Mig-29 and its Helmet Mounted Sight (HMS) and in case of the R-60 it shouldnt even be able to be slaved by the HMS without locking the target with either Radar ot the IRST.

The Mig-29 exchanging the R-27ER for the R-73 wouldnt be too big of an issue because the R-27R + R-73 can be seen on a fighter at a BR as low as 12.3 and in combintion with an HMS as well.

this would also help to make the early Mig-29 fall more into their intended role ingame as it would be able to be played more like a light fighter instead of a missile bus, that dosent get any missiles.

  • Exchange the R-27ER for the R-73
  • Keep the R-27ER + R-60 combination
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Now that decompression is occurring, it’s obvious the R-73 Mig-29s are staying 13.0.

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Even 6x r73 would be at 13.0, although I wouldn’t mind for sim cause of the new br brackets. Gimme my 29 913s gaijoob

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why would it?
we already have 4x r-73 with HMS at 12.3

What plane has 4x r73 at 12.3?

Mig-21bison

It has only 2x, I think you’re confusing r73 and r27t

Replace R-60Ms with R-73s and move it to 13.0. Move Su-27S to 13.3.

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Mig-21Bison is 2x R-73 and 2x R-27 on a 60 flare Mig-21Bis… A plane that can’t even beat 13.0s in dogfights except for the Sea Harrier.

that is most likely wrong then i dont see why the pylon is able to carry the 27T but not the r-73

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The Mig-21Bison has a better radar than the Mig-29 and 60 large calibre countermeasures unlike the Mig-29 (the CMs on the 29 were reduced to normal calibre a while ago)

balancing decision, same with it getting only r27s instead of 4x77s

and it should be able to carry 4x r73s, there’s a pic of the 21 93 (bison predecossor/russian bison) having that loadout option, lemme find it
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proper r73 instesad of just a mockup

those are not r-73s

was just finding pics, there’s a bison with 73s on the inner pylons, which it currently doesnt get

i think it might be just incompetence from gaijin and not a balancing decison

what about the MiG-29G?

no that shouldnt happen the r-27ER should be removed in exchange for the r-73

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i dont think 6x R73s or 4x R73s + 2x R27R/T would be to strong in combination with how poor its FM is currently

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same, i’d rather it be set up the way it currently is and just add a 913s for russia at 13.0 with 73s