Planned Battle Rating changes for August 2025 (updated 16:00, 15.08)

Would love for all of this but all we can hope for is the longer reload tbh. Heres hoping.

MAA-1s have pros over 9Ls as well. They are also a lot faster. Meaning targets have less time to react and I’ve had several ignore flares where a 9L would have gone for the flares because they’ve hit the target before the seeker has seen the flares. Also in SB, the short fast burn means it spends a good chunk of its flight time without a trail, which is rather nice. So side-grade-esk depending on the exact shot.

With the downsides being shorter range and worse close range performance due to a longer guidance delay

Yeah… I personally consider the difference in guns personal preference, with the M61 being the easier to use gun, but yeah, for the AMX in general its largely irrelvant.

But yeah. Its wierd that it’s not a lower BR. But Gaijin has this wierd obsession with what an aircraft might be able to do and less so what it will actually do

Although i agrea, massive skill issue if the man is struggling in the kv 220 with the russian 85mm of all things. But the tiger isnt exactly harmless… Armours decent when used correctly and the gun is amazing.

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Mode: Air Simulator Battles
Vehicle: F-104S.ASA
BR: 11.7 → 11.3

Reasoning: The F-104S.ASA is almost comically bad for the BR. Its RWR gives no direction, so it’s more of an advance notice of your impending doom than an actual tool for defending, its speed is unremarkable for the BR at relevant altitudes, and its maneuverability is nonexistent. While its radar is above-average for 11.3 (and honestly even 11.7), it can only carry 2 SARH missiles, and only if it gives up its gun. Otherwise it only has 2 AIM-9Ls, or 4 if it forgoes the SARH missiles. Even at 11.3 it would be rather lackluster, but I do not believe that AIM-9Ls should go any lower than 11.3 for any reason due to the possibility of encountering aircraft that entirely lack countermeasures.

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Hello please have in mind the MIg-29’s give them the R-73 and remove the ER and move them to 13.0 all thew MIG-29A’s (Sniper, 9-12 and others)

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cough cough (totally not a shameless plug)

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Historically accurate speed of king tiger was approximately 41km. I know it is very good tank with decent mobility at 6.7 but nerfing beyond accuracy is unnecessary and should not be done.

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Moving the Begleitpanzer to 9.7 is unfair and pretty dumb , it does not have the missiles nor the armament to face vehicles at that BR nor the 9.7 + vehicles it will be facing . Other vehicles at that BR already have APDS/apfsds on top of significantly better missiles like dual tandem with 800+mm of penetration let alone gen2 thermals and IRST .

The Begleitpanzer 57 has a lackluster I-Tow that struggles against most tanks and a full bore AP-T round that struggles against some vehicles even from the side unless you hit the side armor at a flat angle.

It has received plenty of nerfs where almost every single shot that is not a bounce disables the main cannon and turret rotation and leads to its death. I dont see a reason or justification why it deserves 9.7 when 9.3 in Realistic is the best/fairest BR for it .

The vehicle cannot receive better armament and will struggle even more then it does at 9.7 where it has no lineup . There is no lineup at 9.7 for Germany , removing the Begleitpanzer 57 from 9.3 also removes the only auto-cannon light tank that 9.3 could use in its lineup while other nations have plenty of similar vehicles with better armament on top of having tandem missiles already. Its a dumb change, you are expecting anyone who enjoys playing their vehicles at 9.3 now to up-tier them to 9.7 for the Begleitpanzer 57 where it does not deserve to be in the first place .

This also goes for the BMD-4 & BMP-3, I would rather they stay at 9.3 as I dont see a reason they deserve 9.7 in realistic battles. Both USSR and Germany have no 9.7 lineup, this is a dumb and imbalanced change that should not be implemented .

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Mode: Air Simulator Battles

Vehicle: Q-5A

BR: 10.3 → 10.0

Reasoning: While it does have good flight performance (thanks to being based on the MiG-19), the Q-5A lacks missiles of any kind and carries only dumb ordnance, making it rather limited in its ability to attack ground battles at its BR, since the AA will engage while the plane is still too far away to readily locate, identify, and engage ground targets. While its flight performance is too good for it to go lower than 10.0, its ordnance is insufficient in both quality and quantity to justify its position at 10.3.

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Mode: Air Simulator Battles

Vehicle: Q-5L

BR: 10.7 → 10.3

Reasoning: The Q-5L lacks any kind of missiles, limiting it to guns for self-defense. While its flight performance is good thanks to being based on the MiG-19, it is slow and its lack of missiles leaves is vulnerable to interception. Additionally, it carries only 2 guided munitions, making it very poor for ground attack. This is further exacerbated by the HUD having an egregious amount of glare on all maps that makes seeing anything through the front of the canopy nearly impossible at most dive angles, including those used for ground attack. As a result, I believe that the Q-5L should go down while also receiving a fix to the HUD glare issue.

Yeah I only play realistic I have a-1a and know how insanely well maa-1 turns but it’s really just overkill and at least to me the short range compared to aim9L is certainly not worth it.

I mean you pretty much just stated all the reason why 1 is 13.7 and the others are gonna be 13.3 No TWS or HMD with worse ir missiles is a huge tradeoff tho im interested to see how they balance for the chinese 1 tho since it gets TWS while still being the same br as the others. (they could also just swap out the radar on all ADFs to the the v3 and have them all be the same)

Not to mention how out-performed it would be by every auto-cannon light tank at 9.7. The only thing it would have going for it would be fire rate, and that doesn’t count for much when you can’t penetrate in the first place.

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Mode: Ground Realistic Battles
Vehicle: AMX-32
BR: 9.7 → 9.3

Reason: This vehicle not better than Leopard 1A5 which is 9.3. AMX-32 is easy to pen for 8.3. Autocannon is rare useful, only to destroy objects(trees, bushes, fences). Maybe AM-32(105) better on 9.0 like Leopard A1A1 and OF-40 mk2A, because AMX-32 obvious better than AMX-32(105).

France isn`t popular nation. No need to nerf them

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I really don’t see why the:

BMD-4/M
And BMP-3 got moved up.

It’s most likely due to the Beglit going up.

Or it could be because they’re very good light tanks.

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I dream that one day the MIG-29 could get it’s Deserved R-73’s

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No. They need to be left at 9.7 to test their abilities before we buff them. Same stuff happened to the French, they go up and get buffed then go up again because they got buffed.

I’d take the TTD or the 2AV over the TURMS any day of the week

The better question is why the Merkava Mk.2D is moving to this BR as well lol

Mobility if i had to guess, people really don’t pay attention and let BMP’s get on their side, additionally the Begleitpanzer going up only made sense since both the Begleitpanzer and the BMP’s are the best IFV’s for their BR. Pretty solid vehicles all around. They’ll probably do fine and if not they’ll go back down.