I think with the new BR changes adding 13.3 and 14.3 Bracket they should give the F2A TT AAM4B (which is already in the works since it was received by the developers ) and make it 14.0 , while the ADTW would be nice to receive the regular AAM4 and be upped to 13.7 or 13.3 since we will already have AIM-120A at 13.3 on the F16 ADF variants
Did i miss something?
he wants the 27er on the iranian tomcat and tries to justify that by saying the the f-4f has the aim9j which germany didnt operate
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Thank god i thought he was talking about R27ER on german phantoms
Aim9J on German F-4F
and iam advocating to change that
i dont even know how many times i posted that link in here
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I would bin the R-27ER/R and swap them for the 4 R-73s
should go to 9.0
yea thats what im saying you fr got J-7D which has way better missiles and flight performance at 10.7 which you cant even engage in a dogfight with and dont forget all the uptiers to 12.0,11.7 which you are done because of mig-23ml’s and f-4s’s which get way better missiles and flight performance
that wasnt even mounted on the iranian f14 unlike the r27r
It was tested, they made the decision to kit out the MiG 29 with the “Dogfighting” missile
But Ger did operate it. In the old forum this was discussed back and fourth and finally photos appeared, showing German F-4F airframes in the US with Aim-9J mounted. I think this discussion is over.
then you have a picture or a document confirming it, as it seems you are the only one that has those sources, there were and still are quite a few ppl looking for something like that
i was just making clear what he meant and i shouldnt comment on that topic as well because i have no clue besides the surface level stuff
Official Iranian sources? Yeah good luck with that.
There are numerous anecdotes that heavilly suggest the R-73 which we know Iran operated was mounted and tested on an F-14. However in Irans eyes the 14s primary purpose was BVR which is why instead of integrating R-27 (which in Irans eyes had an unsatisfactory range compared with Aim-54) They manufactured the Fakour 90
“The R-73’s reliability and ability to fire at extreme angles, meanwhile, made it by many accounts the most capable short ranged air to air missile of its time. Although they improved the F-14’s versatility, these missiles were not well suited to the Tomcat’s primary mission which was very long range interceptions - something only the American AIM-54 and Russian R-33 and K-100 were well suited to at the time. This led Iran to eventually reverse engineer and extensively improve the AIM-54 domestically, which provided it with a similar looking but [more capable missile named the Fakour 90”
so it is only speculation
i dont even need to read further then
War Thunder is full of things which were tested, but not adopted. Some are included in WT, most are not part of the game. There is no fixed rule, but It looks like Gajin only adpots these things if they’re required for balancing or gameplay reasons.
But still there has to be some proof.
(Except its a russian unit :) )
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The last Bit is hella accurate
SAAB-105G
GRB
8.3 → 8.7
Very good flight performance in regards to climb, and manoeuvrability. Combined with it having CCIP, it easily is able to get multiple ground kills with its bombs, and at the same time, being near untouchable. It is also able to equip 30mm ADEN gun pod that works as a very effective armament against both air and ground.
The closest comparison it have, is the Buccaneer S.1, which sits at 8.7. The Buccaneer compared to the SAAB-105G, while it have a higher top speed, it has a lot worse manoeuvrability, and it doesn’t have access to any armaments to defend itself from air threats.
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- R-27 and R-73 integration was tested and proved to be possible, but Iran barely has enough of both missiles to arm its Fulcrum fleet. They never progressed farther than being tested on a single airframe (3-6041).
Iranian F-14 Units in Combat Tom Cooper and Farzad Bishop