Some Frustrations and Suggestions from a Japan Main

You literally did not read a single word I wrote.

Sir, are you claiming that Japan isn’t a nation…?
/j
This take explains why you hates japan and keeps gatekeep everything from them…

I disagree about this part. We sold planes to South Africa, and South Africa bought many planes from the world, both copy-paste-ish ones(Mirage III as an example) and unique-ish ones. (Cheetah as an example)
All we got was a damn stupid Gripen with an intended nerfed ahistorical missile.
In the name of silly Tech-tree uniqueness
AFAIK, SAAF gave up the option to equip Darter, and didn’t buy AIM-120, so both Darter and AIM-120 remain a grey zone of ‘technical compatibility from SAAB Broshures’, and Gaijin decided to nerf her, while nearly every other Gripen with ARH equipped with AIM-120.

Thick air tree… (which has nearly an extinction level of modern era jets, thanks to JASDF, which used not many types of modern jets.)

Man, with due all respect, this sentence itself seems racist…
We Brits usually even don’t reach this level of hatred…

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China kinda picks up where Japan starts to fall off. It’s not perfect but it’s better than what we got rn.

There’s really no other way to talk about it. You can’t sugar coat the fact that they all hate eachother.

??? It has nothing to do with whether Japan is a nation or not. Japan in general has only made WT worse with the excessive copy paste, and wasted opportunity implementation.

Why? Japan was not a heavy tank country. They didnt manage to build even one working fully finished machine. Their tree focuses on different type of machinery - the cardboard mobile boxes with powerful cannons (well apart fron rank 1). Its what makes it unique.

because japan didnt manage to produce anything inbetween. They jumped from Type 74 straight to Type 90.

No, its germans who are undertiered. Chi-Nu is pretty balanced at its rank

Sad truth about being a minor nation in war thunder. Also they took the TKX PROT to 12.0 without proper need so its like you could have had 3 MBts without premium one

its not racist if its true. We saw that with VT-4, we see it on the news, we saw that with addition of thai to japan…

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I disagree.
ROC bought F-16A ADF, F-100D, F-104G(some of them were pre-JASDF F-104J AFAIK)
while PRC bought/licensed MiG-15/17/19/21.

Not that many things will be changed from your copy-paste discourse.

JPN-CN Tech-tree will still gonna get Russian copy-pasted jets. with a unique one.
Just like how JPN-Thai tech-tree got.

Yes. I heard they hate each other due to serious political issues between them, which cannot be talked about (just like how Voldie does)
But even though you know why it cannot happen, you just blamed onto them. :/

This sounds like
“Japan shouldn’t get any more modern vehicles in the next update and onward because copy-paste slopping is bad.”

OA-37
I still remember you claimed adding Thai OA-37 is bad because it is a copy-paste.
Even though there is no A-37 in this game…

Sir, just admit that you want to gatekeep any american built vehicles from Japan.

M4A3 76(W) was added to fill a gap just like how the French M4A4 exist.

Just be honest, and stop rationalising yourself as ‘protecting War Thunder from copy-paste’.

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I mean… I also know how they hate each other
But blaming the copy-paste problem on them feels like a bad move.

What I read from his claim was
“Asian playerbases are too racist to each other, that is why War Thunder nowadays are filled with copy-paste slop. If they weren’t hating each other, JPN-CN combined tech tree would be a perfect option.”

Well it isnt the main contributor for sure, but as we can see it also is one of them. When the ASEAN tree was suggested it was asians who argued more if that country should be added to it or not. When the devs stated their plans for subtrees, it also were asians who were most violent in language.

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Alot of the copy pasted chinese aircraft and copy pasted japanese tanks would be removable.

Now, yes, 9.3 - 10.3 wont change much, however it’s still a major improvement.

Even if Gajin was a somewhat reasonable company who could revert bad changes, the playerbase would still stop it from happening.

It literally has nothing to do with Japan or America. Copy paste is just bad.

I never knew mixing a domestic ww2 deck with an Ameri-Russo copy-pasted domestic deck could be called a major improvement.

Adding M4A4 and T-34/76&85 on japanese tech tree isn’t an improvement if we only think about copy-paste.

This is invalid when Gaijin isn’t a somewhat reasonable company that could revert bad changes.

Probably, Copy paste is bad, because major nations always use it as a ‘gatekeeping reason.’
In the name of ‘tech-tree uniqueness’ for being inferior forever.

Alright, then now starts with removing C&P vehicles and Non-US vehicles from US.
-Ki-43-II
-Ki-61-Ib
-A6M2
-Bf109F-4
-Fw190A-8
-Spitfire LF Mk.IX
-Grant I
-Ram II
-Skink/Skink(Hell on wheels)
-Stingray
First.

Oh, do you think ‘already implemented one’ does not affect…?

If copy-paste is really bad, how about laying down yours first before gatekeeps other?

because i go to play Japan not to play on copypaste, same i go to play on US not to meet the enemy US techs each game.

kill it. If it means less copypaste, kill everything that is copypaste. But gaijin wont, because it means returning moni

I play British to play every british vehicles which we used historically, no matter copy paste or not
same I go to play German or Italian.

I understand your POV, even though I disagree.

I just hate those ‘gatekeeping double-standard’ type of guys.
shuts about their privilege, such as “we loaned it, we built it even though we never bought it, we captured it”, and gatekeeps theirs to others, no matter how others loaned, bought, or captured it.

Anyway, back to the original topic,… suggestion to Japan…
I hope Japan TT gets their ‘delayed’ Thai VT-4.

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In my opinion, the most frustrating thing is that for 1799 days (!) no Japanese ww2 aircraft has been added to the tech tree in the game. The same goes for ground vehicles. For 1799 days (!) no native Japanese ground vehicle has been added. This shows that Gaijin hate Japan.

And this is a short list of possible Japanese CAS planes that were completely ignored by Gaijin.

Japanese-made airplanes:
  1. Aichi AM-17 (D3A1 prototype)
    Aichi_AM-17,_prototype_of_the_D3A_dive_bomber
suggestion

Aichi D3A prototype 2 (AM-17) 11-Shi - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Aichi D3A2
    image
suggestion

Aichi D3A2 Model 22 “Val” - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Aichi D1A1 Model 11
    D1A1-2
suggestion

Aichi D1A1 Model 11 “Susie” - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Aichi D3A1 Model 12
suggestion

Aichi D1A1 Model 12 “Susie” - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Aichi D3A2
    d1a-6
suggestion

Aichi D1A2 Model 21 “Susie” - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Aichi AM-22 (Aichi E16A prototype)
    AICHI-E16A-ZUIUN-2
suggestion

Aichi E16A first prototype (AM-22) 16-Shi - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Aichi E16A1
    Aichi_E16A
suggestion

Aichi E16A Zuiun11 - Suggestions - Devs / Passed - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Aichi E16A2
suggestion

the suggestion is pending

  1. Aichi E12A
    e12a-1
suggestion

Aichi E12A 12-Shi - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Aichi B7A1
suggestion

Aichi B7A1 Grace - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Ishikawajima T-3
    ishikawajimat3-1
suggestion

Ishikawajima T-3 - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Kawanishi N1K1-J Hei
    Zrzut ekranu 2024-09-25 092517
suggestion

Kawanishi N1K1-Jc - Suggestions - Devs / Passed - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Kawasaki Ki-3
suggestion

Kawasaki Ki-3 - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Kawasaki Ki-66
    kawasaki_ki-66

  2. Kokusai Ki-76
    ki76-3

suggestion

Kokusai Ki-76 “Stella” - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Kyushu Q1W1
    1232123232
suggestion

Kyushu Q1W1 Model 11 Lorna - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Mansyū Ki-71
    115252-d2ce564345ea21ca804e57703c951d45
suggestion

Mansyū Ki-71 “Edna” - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Mitsubishi A6M7 Model 62
suggestion

Mitsubishi A6M7 model 62 - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Mitsubishi A6M7 Model 63
    Zrzut ekranu 2024-09-14 201617
suggestion

Mitsubishi A6M7 model 63 - Suggestions - Devs / Passed - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Mitsubishi Ki-30
    3_zps8b212abc
suggestion

Mitsubishi Ki-30 Ann - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Mitsubishi Ki-51
    OIP (1)
suggestion

Ki-51 sonia japanese Sturmovik - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Mitsubishi Ki-46-II with 37mm cannons
    20180919043912
suggestion

Mitsubishi Ki-46-II with 37mm Type 98 cannons - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Mitsubishi Ki-109 prototype 1
    t_ki-109.01
suggestion

Mitsubishi Ki-109 Prototype no.1 - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Nakajima D3N
    R
suggestion

Nakajima D3N - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Nakajima Kikka prototype
    11b92a847e67ffd143b3775d193532fb--jets-japan
suggestion

Nakajima Kikka Prototype - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Nakajima Ki-201
    36232-ad251f2ee09fd3b0df99c8906a0624c1
suggestion

Nakajima Ki-201 Karyū “Fire Dragon” (キ201 火龍) - Suggestions - Devs / Passed - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Nakajima E12N
    Nakajima_E12N1-02

  2. Rikugun Ki-93-Ia
    ki93-2

suggestion

Rikugun Ki-93-Ia - Flying Anti-Tank Gun - Suggestions - Devs / Passed - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Rikugun Ki-93-Ib
    rikugun-ki-93-ib-anti-ship-1-72-kit

  2. Tachikawa Ki-36
    124323

suggestion

Tachikawa Ki-36 Ida - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Yokosuka D3Y
    R

  2. Yokosuka D4Y4

suggestion

Yokosuka D4Y4 (early) - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

Foreign-made airplanes:
  1. Cessna L-19A
suggestion

Japanese Cessna L-19A “Soyokaze” - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Douglas DB-7B/C
    pobierz
suggestion

Japanese Douglas DB-7B (DB-7C) - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Fuji L-19E-I
    His-Mil-L19E-1214-1980.09.07 Misawa-KUPANBA
suggestion

Fuji L-19E-I “Soyokaze” - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Fuji L-19E-II
suggestion

Fuji L-19E-II “Soyokaze” - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Grumman JRF-5
    His-Mil-JRF5-9012-1955 (5)
suggestion

Japanese Grumman JRF-5 - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Grumman TBM-3S2
    00001729_088a09
suggestion

Japanese Grumman TBM-3S2 - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Heinkel DXHe1 (He 118)
suggestion

Heinkel He 118 (DXHe1) - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Junkers Ju-87 A-2
    Ju87 in Japanese markings 1
suggestion

Japanese Junkers Ju 87 A/K-1 Irena - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Lockheed PV-2
    His-Mil-PV2-4578 (1)
suggestion

Japanese Lockheed PV-2 Harpoon - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Lockheed PV-2D
    His-Mil-PV2-4574-B (3)
suggestion

Japanese Lockheed PV-2D Harpun - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Lockheed Hudson
    v2-4bc4f9ed7fdaff0d6b0876c9c61acb2f_1440w

  2. Messerschmitt Me 210A-2
    tumblr_ne5bqnts8k1qkltjyo1_1280-768x339

suggestion

Japanese Messerschmitt Me 210 A-1 W.Nr.2102350 - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Nakajima-Breguet 19A2B

  2. Northrop BT/Douglas DB-19 (DXD1)

  3. Northrop 2E (BXN1)

  4. Northrop 2F (BXN2)

  5. Seversky A8V1
    Seversky A8V1 Dick

suggestion

Seversky A8V1 “Dick” - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Vought AXV1 (V-143)
suggestion

Vought V-143/AXV1 - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Toyo FD-25
    image
suggestion

Fletcher/Toyo FD-25 Defender - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

Vehicles worth mentioning:
  1. Navy AT No.2 Airship


    Yes, that’s an airship with a 75mm cannon

  2. Fuji T-1A
    JASDF_Fuji_T-1_No.01

suggestion

Fuji T-1A - Suggestions - Devs / Passed - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Fuji T-1B
    His-Mil-T1-051-853-NakaiAlbum
suggestion

Fuji T-1B Hatsutaka - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Fuji T-1C or T-1B-10
suggestion

Fuji T-1B-10/C Hatsutaka - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. De Havilland D.H.115 Vampire T.55
suggestion

Japanese De Havilland D.H.115 Vampire T.55 - Suggestions - Devs / Passed - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Grumman S2F-1
    His-Mil-S2F-01-to-HORNET
suggestion

Grumman S2F-1 Tracker - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Kawasaki T-33A
    Q-003-KanzakiX20(2)
suggestion

Kawasaki T-33A Wakataka - Suggestions - Devs / Passed - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Kawasaki XT-4
    OIP
suggestion

Kawasaki XT-4, Potent with Potential - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Mitsubishi FS-T2 Kai
    960x960 (9)
suggestion

Mitsubishi FS-T2 Kai - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Mitsubishi LR-1
suggestion

Mitsubishi LR-1 (MU-2K) - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

  1. North American F-86D
    a3640-01-19680818Matssima-F86D-Toda

  2. North American F-86F-40 (late service)
    960x960

  3. North American T-28B

  4. Kayaba Ka-1
    ka1-3

suggestion

Kayaba Ka-1 / O-1 (茅場Ka-1) - Suggestions - Devs / Passed - War Thunder — official forum

  1. Kayaba Ka-2
    Kayaba 4
suggestion

Kayaba Ka-2 - Suggestions / Heli - War Thunder — official forum

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The F2 came last year? Although way too late in my opinion

The Japanese planes you mentioned are all prop planes. Gaijin said they are moving away from WWII and shifting priority to modern vehicles.
Unfortunately the only japanese aircraft that can be added is another variant of f15JM, super f2, and f15 super interceptor. I don’t see Gaijin adding anything else than those. And ground vehicle wise there’s barely anything left for cold war-modern era.

The lack of O-I, and the addition of things like Sovetsky Soyuz, KH-38MT, Flakpanzer IV “Ostwind II” and other fictional or half-finish prototypes is a huge case of Gaijin’s bias. Gaijin clearly hates Japan. Japan is ignored, plundered, and cheated by Gaijin. If by March 10, 2026 (five years of waiting for a new Japanese WWII vehicle) no Japanese vehicle from WWII (not a ship) is announced, I will abandon this game, uninstall it, and never return to it.

Sorry, my mistake. I forgot to mention that it’s about a plane from before 1946.

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I see, unlikely Gaijin will add anything WWII related though. This goes for all nations too.

Nope. It has nothing to do with gatekeeping. You can ask anyone who’s ever played a nation victimized by copy slopping. 10 times outta 10 they woulda preferred a unique vehicle be added instead of copy slopping.

Yes, I agree with those being removed.

If you mean from the Japan tree then sure.

Even thought that a fact but still unrelated to the topic we discussed about.

So maybe try elaborate what so “unique” about China and Israel🤦‍♂️

SInce when? All China aircraft in game right now are more or less copy and paste from USSR, what they do is just renamed it.

Then you will find those nation you consider as “unique” will get cancelled while Japan remained unharm