its not racist if its true. We saw that with VT-4, we see it on the news, we saw that with addition of thai to japan…
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I disagree.
ROC bought F-16A ADF, F-100D, F-104G(some of them were pre-JASDF F-104J AFAIK)
while PRC bought/licensed MiG-15/17/19/21.
Not that many things will be changed from your copy-paste discourse.
JPN-CN Tech-tree will still gonna get Russian copy-pasted jets. with a unique one.
Just like how JPN-Thai tech-tree got.
Yes. I heard they hate each other due to serious political issues between them, which cannot be talked about (just like how Voldie does)
But even though you know why it cannot happen, you just blamed onto them. :/
This sounds like
“Japan shouldn’t get any more modern vehicles in the next update and onward because copy-paste slopping is bad.”
I still remember you claimed adding Thai OA-37 is bad because it is a copy-paste.
Even though there is no A-37 in this game…
Sir, just admit that you want to gatekeep any american built vehicles from Japan.
M4A3 76(W) was added to fill a gap just like how the French M4A4 exist.
Just be honest, and stop rationalising yourself as ‘protecting War Thunder from copy-paste’.
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I mean… I also know how they hate each other
But blaming the copy-paste problem on them feels like a bad move.
What I read from his claim was
“Asian playerbases are too racist to each other, that is why War Thunder nowadays are filled with copy-paste slop. If they weren’t hating each other, JPN-CN combined tech tree would be a perfect option.”
Well it isnt the main contributor for sure, but as we can see it also is one of them. When the ASEAN tree was suggested it was asians who argued more if that country should be added to it or not. When the devs stated their plans for subtrees, it also were asians who were most violent in language.
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Alot of the copy pasted chinese aircraft and copy pasted japanese tanks would be removable.
Now, yes, 9.3 - 10.3 wont change much, however it’s still a major improvement.
Even if Gajin was a somewhat reasonable company who could revert bad changes, the playerbase would still stop it from happening.
It literally has nothing to do with Japan or America. Copy paste is just bad.
I never knew mixing a domestic ww2 deck with an Ameri-Russo copy-pasted domestic deck could be called a major improvement.
Adding M4A4 and T-34/76&85 on japanese tech tree isn’t an improvement if we only think about copy-paste.
This is invalid when Gaijin isn’t a somewhat reasonable company that could revert bad changes.
Probably, Copy paste is bad, because major nations always use it as a ‘gatekeeping reason.’
In the name of ‘tech-tree uniqueness’ for being inferior forever.
Alright, then now starts with removing C&P vehicles and Non-US vehicles from US.
-Ki-43-II
-Ki-61-Ib
-A6M2
-Bf109F-4
-Fw190A-8
-Spitfire LF Mk.IX
-Grant I
-Ram II
-Skink/Skink(Hell on wheels)
-Stingray
First.
Oh, do you think ‘already implemented one’ does not affect…?
If copy-paste is really bad, how about laying down yours first before gatekeeps other?
because i go to play Japan not to play on copypaste, same i go to play on US not to meet the enemy US techs each game.
kill it. If it means less copypaste, kill everything that is copypaste. But gaijin wont, because it means returning moni
I play British to play every british vehicles which we used historically, no matter copy paste or not
same I go to play German or Italian.
I understand your POV, even though I disagree.
I just hate those ‘gatekeeping double-standard’ type of guys.
shuts about their privilege, such as “we loaned it, we built it even though we never bought it, we captured it”, and gatekeeps theirs to others, no matter how others loaned, bought, or captured it.
Anyway, back to the original topic,… suggestion to Japan…
I hope Japan TT gets their ‘delayed’ Thai VT-4.
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In my opinion, the most frustrating thing is that for 1799 days (!) no Japanese ww2 aircraft has been added to the tech tree in the game. The same goes for ground vehicles. For 1799 days (!) no native Japanese ground vehicle has been added. This shows that Gaijin hate Japan.
And this is a short list of possible Japanese CAS planes that were completely ignored by Gaijin.
Japanese-made airplanes:
- Aichi AM-17 (D3A1 prototype)
suggestion
Aichi D3A prototype 2 (AM-17) 11-Shi - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum
- Aichi D3A2
- Aichi D1A1 Model 11
- Aichi D3A1 Model 12
- Aichi D3A2
- Aichi AM-22 (Aichi E16A prototype)
suggestion
Aichi E16A first prototype (AM-22) 16-Shi - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum
- Aichi E16A1
- Aichi E16A2
suggestion
the suggestion is pending
- Aichi E12A
- Aichi B7A1
- Ishikawajima T-3
- Kawanishi N1K1-J Hei
- Kawasaki Ki-3
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Kawasaki Ki-66
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Kokusai Ki-76
- Kyushu Q1W1
- Mansyū Ki-71
- Mitsubishi A6M7 Model 62
- Mitsubishi A6M7 Model 63
- Mitsubishi Ki-30
- Mitsubishi Ki-51
- Mitsubishi Ki-46-II with 37mm cannons
- Mitsubishi Ki-109 prototype 1
- Nakajima D3N
- Nakajima Kikka prototype
- Nakajima Ki-201
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Nakajima E12N
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Rikugun Ki-93-Ia
suggestion
Rikugun Ki-93-Ia - Flying Anti-Tank Gun - Suggestions - Devs / Passed - War Thunder — official forum
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Rikugun Ki-93-Ib
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Tachikawa Ki-36
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Yokosuka D3Y
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Yokosuka D4Y4
Foreign-made airplanes:
- Cessna L-19A
- Douglas DB-7B/C
- Fuji L-19E-I
- Fuji L-19E-II
- Grumman JRF-5
- Grumman TBM-3S2
- Heinkel DXHe1 (He 118)
- Junkers Ju-87 A-2
suggestion
Japanese Junkers Ju 87 A/K-1 Irena - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum
- Lockheed PV-2
- Lockheed PV-2D
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Lockheed Hudson
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Messerschmitt Me 210A-2
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Nakajima-Breguet 19A2B
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Northrop BT/Douglas DB-19 (DXD1)
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Northrop 2E (BXN1)
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Northrop 2F (BXN2)
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Seversky A8V1
- Vought AXV1 (V-143)
- Toyo FD-25
Vehicles worth mentioning:
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Navy AT No.2 Airship
Yes, that’s an airship with a 75mm cannon -
Fuji T-1A
- Fuji T-1B
- Fuji T-1C or T-1B-10
- De Havilland D.H.115 Vampire T.55
- Grumman S2F-1
- Kawasaki T-33A
- Kawasaki XT-4
suggestion
Kawasaki XT-4, Potent with Potential - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum
- Mitsubishi FS-T2 Kai
- Mitsubishi LR-1
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North American F-86D
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North American F-86F-40 (late service)
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North American T-28B
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Kayaba Ka-1
- Kayaba Ka-2
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The F2 came last year? Although way too late in my opinion
The Japanese planes you mentioned are all prop planes. Gaijin said they are moving away from WWII and shifting priority to modern vehicles.
Unfortunately the only japanese aircraft that can be added is another variant of f15JM, super f2, and f15 super interceptor. I don’t see Gaijin adding anything else than those. And ground vehicle wise there’s barely anything left for cold war-modern era.
The lack of O-I, and the addition of things like Sovetsky Soyuz, KH-38MT, Flakpanzer IV “Ostwind II” and other fictional or half-finish prototypes is a huge case of Gaijin’s bias. Gaijin clearly hates Japan. Japan is ignored, plundered, and cheated by Gaijin. If by March 10, 2026 (five years of waiting for a new Japanese WWII vehicle) no Japanese vehicle from WWII (not a ship) is announced, I will abandon this game, uninstall it, and never return to it.
Sorry, my mistake. I forgot to mention that it’s about a plane from before 1946.
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I see, unlikely Gaijin will add anything WWII related though. This goes for all nations too.
Nope. It has nothing to do with gatekeeping. You can ask anyone who’s ever played a nation victimized by copy slopping. 10 times outta 10 they woulda preferred a unique vehicle be added instead of copy slopping.
Yes, I agree with those being removed.
If you mean from the Japan tree then sure.
Even thought that a fact but still unrelated to the topic we discussed about.
So maybe try elaborate what so “unique” about China and Israel🤦♂️
SInce when? All China aircraft in game right now are more or less copy and paste from USSR, what they do is just renamed it.
Then you will find those nation you consider as “unique” will get cancelled while Japan remained unharm
Ro’em
They get unique missiles. 9.3 - 10.3 will sadly still be copy pasted, but it would be better than what we have now.
Or just remove copy paste and add unique vehicles that are worth grinding for.
LOL, I thought I read it mistaken but seem like you really thing a howitzer on a Sherman chasis more “unique” than those self design Japanese tanks🤦♂️
You know most of those “unique” missile is just a rename version of R-60 and Magic series right?
How many times I gonna repeat? You can’t remove them because they didn’t got that much of self design vehicle. If remove them all Israel will lose whole Magach line and most of the other vehicle in other line; China also suffered as they will had to kiss goodbye to the WW2 era, the ROC line and large number of PRC vehicle while those vehicle you said “worth grinding” is not enough to fill the gap those copy and paste vehicle made, at the end you will find the “less unique” Japan only get minor affect by removing some ground vehicle and some modern jets
Strange, I saw quite a lot of Commonwealth players praying about their vehicles to ours.
10 outta 10? really mate…?
Yes, if there are ‘unique vehicles remaining to be added which are worth playing’ and ‘lame copy-pasted vehicles’, there might be a chance of preferring unique ones.
But in the other way around, players will prefer ‘trustworthy american built warhorse’ compared to ‘untrustworty unique vehicle which is overtiered, outgunned, or off-meta’.
Ooohhh… you’ve grown up from last time we discussed… handclap
You bite the bullet. nice job.
What the hell are you talking about? Stingray was built by the US but never bought by Congress in the final selection.
You think that is an American vehicle because an American company built it, even though US Army didn’t operate it.
But the operator company shouldn’t get it because copy-paste is bad?
Keep your damn hands off her, Biff.
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furthermore lets also add China to Japan too /s