Southeast Asian (ASEAN) Machinery Of War Discussion Thread

Hello I would like to add these Philippine Vehicles that I managed to get suggestions to be posted:

Patrol Boat Q-111 “Luzon”

M113 UT25

There are also some more suggestions that have been up from other authors:

Sabrah Light Tank

Jacinto-class corvette BRP Artemio Ricarte (PS-37) - Peacock of Modernization

I made one comment (back when I was dumb so I thought it was like a suggestion - didnt have time to actually get the suggestion to be passed just yet):

BRP Rajah Humabon

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There’s a photo of M4A3(105) operated by the Indonesian Marines.
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I’ve never seen the M4A1 in Indonesian service though, and the Dutch also didn’t use them in Indonesia. The only one that does use them was the British Indian Army.

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yeah this was already discussed in the comments of the sub-tree page

relating to naval stuff though, for Indonesia I’m planning on remaking the KRI Irian (Sverdlov-class) Suggestion for the new forum since the original author is inactive (at least i think, its been a year since theyre online) and they haven’t re-suggested it.

It’s a shame theres barely any suggestion since there’s quite a few of ships that can be suggested, especially for the coastal stuff

(BRs are obviously only temporary)

Bluewater

Coastal

heres a brief list incase any of you want to suggest them

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Bluewater:

RI Imam Bondjol(250->355)

Italian, Almirante Clemente-class destroyer

RI Gadjah Mada (D803)

British, N-class destroyer. Ex Dutch HNLMS Tjerk Hiddes

RI Siliwangi(201)

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Soviet, Skory-class destroyer/Project30bis, ex-Volevoy

KRI Martha Kristina Tiahahu(331)

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British, Tribal-class frigate, Ex-HMS Zulu

RI Irian(201)

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Soviet, Sverdlov-class cruiser, ex-Ordzhonikidze

Coastal:

RI Pulau Rau(501)

German, Pulau Rau-class, modification of R-Boat/Räumboote class

RI PP 01

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British, Harbour defence motor launch, ex dutch

RI Pulau Rani(701)

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Soviet, T43-class/Project 254M & 254K

RI Barakuda

Soviet, Kronshtadt-class/Project122bis submarine chaser

RI Hiu(805)

American, PC-461-class submarine chasers

RI Ular Laut

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Soviet, Project 191M, very obscure but 12 units were obtained in 1963

RI Angin Bohorok(1601)

Soviet, P-6 Class/Project 183 Bolshevik

RI Lajang/Layang

Kraljevica-class anti-sub patrol boat, ex-PBR-515

RI Samadikun(341)

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American, Claud Jones-class destroyer escort, Ex-USS John R. Perry, the guns were changed to the soviet 37mm V11M and 2M3 25mm

RI Adjak

German, Jaguar-class fast attack craft

RI Ngurah Rai(344)

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American, Claud Jones-class destroyer escort, Ex- USS McMorris, standard us armament, unlike the Samadikun

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I was planning to make the suggestion for either Samadikun or Martadinata, but I couldn’t find photos of their aft superstructure with Soviet guns. I don’t think the side diagram found on “Jane’s Fighting Ships” are enough to accurately portray the mounting location for the those guns.

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Also, no offense to the original author, but that old suggestion of RI Irian is bad. There aren’t any actual photos of the ship in that suggestion. If you need any additional photos of it, you can DM me.

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Added new Suggestions to the main List;

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thanks but i already put a bunch of images so i think its fine as is, and its almost done anyway just need to write the background history and stuff

EDIT: I’ve finished it and its currently in pending

RI Irian suggestion up!

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Just a heads up, there’s two ASEAN naval suggestions that aren’t in the list yet:

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Just for the heck of it, since the Philippines is the only one lacking in any sort of “subtree” for the ASEAN, I would like to propose these. l will try my best to link it with existing proposals that are as close to it as possible and not repeat the same vehicles that are in other SEA nations (Note: I will mention if proposal is for another nation.):

Ground:

Cadillac Gage V-300 LAV

→ Proposal is for the US. PH is the only other foreign operator besides the US.

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GKN/Alvis Simba IFV
→ Proposal is for the UK. Was evaluated against the Belgian SIBMAS for Malaysian service. PH on the other hand, chose this vehicle in both APC and 25mm IFV variants. PH is the only operator of the vehicle.

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SPYDER-SR System
→ Proposal is for Israel but is in active service as well with Singapore, Vietnam, and the Philippines. Philippine variant is mounted on a Tetra Truck Chassis.

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Sabrah Light Tank
→ Based on the ASCOD II Chassis, equipped with Elbit System’s 105mm turret. Another chassis bought by the AFP is based on the Pandur II Chassis yet to be delivered, so no photos exist as of now.

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M113 UT25 AIFV
→ M113 equipped with Elbit System’s UT25 turret.

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LVT-H6 - FSV armed with M49 105mm howitzer
→ Proposal is for the ROC Marine Corps, but this was also in service with the Philippine Marines - famously photographed in the 1986 EDSA People Power Revolution.

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M113 FSV
→ Basically an M113 with an Alvis Scorpion Turret that is also done by the Australians afaik. Its quite similar to this proposal: Wan Cheng 2 FSV except that one is armed with a Chaffee Turret. I have not yet found a similar proposal either for the Australian or Philippine variants.

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AIFV-25 / ACV-15
→ Im surprised there is no actual proposal for any version of this yet (hell theres not even a proposal for the original Dutch Variant - on that note, somebody for the love of god, make a proposal for this).

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Marine Multi-Purpose Vehicle MMPV
→ Rumored to be a Mitsubishi Pajero heavily modified to look like a Humvee with a recoilless rifle at the back of it, used by the PH Marines.

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Air/Helos

T-129B Atak
→ Basically the same version as is in the game. Turkey, Nigeria, and PH operate the type.

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AW109AH LUH
→ Proposal could be for Malaysia because of its LOH designation. It is in service with Malaysia as a LOH but in PH it is designated as an Attack Helicopter (despite its lackluster armament). I included it here because I am unsure of the variant but WT should really implement Malaysia’s as it seems to be the variant able to actually equip anything other than unguided rockets.

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AW159 Wildcat
→ Proposal is for the UK. ASW Helicopter in service with UK, ROK, & PH. ROK & PH Variants both are able to be armed with Spike NLOS ATGMs and K745 Blue Shark Torpedoes. Malaysia had planned to buy the type for ASW duties but Im not sure if the order went through.

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FA-50PH
→ Currently, PH is the only nation that operates the FA variant of the T-50 Golden Eagle, though Malaysia did just order the type and deliveries are to be expected soon.

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Navy

I will just relist the ones that I have already mentioned just to centralize everything:

Patrol Boat Q-111 “Luzon”
BRP Rajah Humabon
Jacinto-class corvette BRP Artemio Ricarte (PS-37) - Peacock of Modernization

These are also some that I think might be good:

Acero Class Patrol Gunboat
→ Although sadly, its not even mentioned in the Isreali Coastal Tech Tree, it is based on the Shaldag V Patrol Gunboat. Equipped with Spike NLOS, 30mm Bushmaster, and .50 cals - its quite the modern gunboat that works in the War Thunder environment. I am working on a proposal for this as of the moment.

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Conrado Yap Class Corvette
→ Basically a Pohang Class Corvette, I think its lack of ASMs makes it quite suited for WT gameplay but Im not too sure. I like to think of it as just a bigger HMS Peacock in-game. Might be just too modern for comfort in the current state of naval in WT.

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I’d love to have that M113 FSV. Heck I’d take any turreted M113 variants, they’re just so goofy looking.

Also for the list, my KRI Sultan Thaha Syaifuddin suggestion is up:

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I would be very happy to have suggestions about the F-15SG in Singapore.

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Im done with the OV-10F Bronco suggestion for Indonesia, its now in pending o7

Edit: Approved!

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God I wish they would implement COIN aircraft in-game, even if I hate CAS so much as a Ground RB player lol. Maybe even allow them to spawn in the helicopter airfield.

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Hello,

My proposal for the Acero Class Patrol Gunboat - Securing the Philippine Coastline was finally approved for posting. Please do check it out!

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With all three Chinese tanks now so bad, I would be happy to see the Leopord2 SG enter the Chinese TT

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Wouldn’t change much surely, it would be more like a 11.7 vehicle post update, comparable to that of Leopard 2 PL. Any how China’s top tier is trash at the moment with GAIJING cutting out part of J10 AG weaponary and I would most likely just play 11.0 (ZTZ99 MBT2k) BR after this.

Nah

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Sad news for you buddy.

ASEAN including singapore are going to japan.
Personaly i am looking forward to grinding the VT-4 in the japanese tree

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Why Japan, that is not logical cause they have nothing to do with Japan and are probably more logically either a brand new tree, or just separated into many nations, where they are manufactured.