Considering the current 2S6M1 of the USSR sits at 10.7, it would make no sense to have the 2S6M of Myanmar sit at the same BR when it is directly inferior, with 2 KM reduced range and no thermals.
A good comparison to Myanmar’s 2K22M/2S6M Tunguska is Sweden’s ASRAD-R; currently BR 10.3. while the Tunguska has access to guns, the ASRAD-R has access to a thermal channel for the gunner to improve target acquisition. The Tunguska’s missiles are slightly more maneuverable, but the BOLIDE of the ASRAD-R has slightly longer range. Overall, they are roughly comparable systems. Myanmar’s 2K22M/2S6M Tunguska fits well at 10.3, both in relation to the Soviet 2S6M1 and other 10.3 SAMs.
Alternatively, gaijin could add it ahistorically with the 2S6M1 module to be equivalent to the Soviet option. I think this is a cop out, but if you prefer that you might be able to push for it.
I think a 10.3 Tunguska better meshes with Myanmar’s other vehicles and what can be expected in the tree- especially given that if necessary, Gaijin could chose to add the Pantsir system they ordered to cover the higher tiers.
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I mean Strela is the most iconic 10.3 SAM, and with 3.5 km range IR missiles and no radar, I don’t think they are really equal, plus I want a BR extension so that they could be separate BR and top tier could be less compressed.
Those guns are actually what makes the Tunguska so strong compared with the Roland and bolide missile variants. Definitely 10.7 material, even with ‘only’ 8 km range
I think 2S6 should go 11.0 personally, I mean that is where type 81C sits with 8km range no radar and no gun.
Designer: How many smoke launchers you want?
Polish government: Yes.
Heres a collection of most but not all vehicles used in/from Indonesia
Tree
no surviving photographs but was mentioned to have been operated:
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Added a related Suggestions Lists in the first Post, replacing the old one, in Thailand Thread, as well.
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theres also the Indonesian Apache Guardian suggestion
Indonesian Army AH-64E
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Are you intentionally avoiding the subtree posts? There is no specific post for any single Thai helicopter, but a Thai heli-subtree was passed, along with the other subtree posts for Thailand, Indonesia, & Singapore.
Not to mention the Thai AV-8S Matador, VN-1, & VT-4.
Sub-Tree’s are already listed in the OP.
I am blind.
The Thai Helicopter one isn’t, though.
JASDF F-2s stopover in Singapore on their way to India.
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I’d like to advertise a squadron. Our squadron heavily focuses on Japanese and other Southeast Asian military equipment. We have an affiliated and very active Discord as well (DM for invite)! We do a lot of research and discussion regarding aircraft, especially Thai, Malay, Singaporean, and Indonesian.
Some community members are a part of this squadron, such as @MAUSWAFFE and @WreckingAres283. @Fireraid233 is here too!
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I forgot to put this here as well, but heres the current planned revision for the Indonesian Ground Forces suggestion. Its not final though and things may change in the future
Indonesian Ground Forces - Google docs publication
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Hello I would like to add these Philippine Vehicles that I managed to get suggestions to be posted:
Patrol Boat Q-111 “Luzon”
M113 UT25
There are also some more suggestions that have been up from other authors:
Sabrah Light Tank
Jacinto-class corvette BRP Artemio Ricarte (PS-37) - Peacock of Modernization
I made one comment (back when I was dumb so I thought it was like a suggestion - didnt have time to actually get the suggestion to be passed just yet):
BRP Rajah Humabon
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There’s a photo of M4A3(105) operated by the Indonesian Marines.
I’ve never seen the M4A1 in Indonesian service though, and the Dutch also didn’t use them in Indonesia. The only one that does use them was the British Indian Army.
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yeah this was already discussed in the comments of the sub-tree page
relating to naval stuff though, for Indonesia I’m planning on remaking the KRI Irian (Sverdlov-class) Suggestion for the new forum since the original author is inactive (at least i think, its been a year since theyre online) and they haven’t re-suggested it.
It’s a shame theres barely any suggestion since there’s quite a few of ships that can be suggested, especially for the coastal stuff
(BRs are obviously only temporary)
Bluewater
Coastal
heres a brief list incase any of you want to suggest them
List
Bluewater:
RI Imam Bondjol(250->355)
Italian, Almirante Clemente-class destroyer
RI Gadjah Mada (D803)
British, N-class destroyer. Ex Dutch HNLMS Tjerk Hiddes
RI Siliwangi(201)
Soviet, Skory-class destroyer/Project30bis, ex-Volevoy
KRI Martha Kristina Tiahahu(331)
British, Tribal-class frigate, Ex-HMS Zulu
RI Irian(201)
Soviet, Sverdlov-class cruiser, ex-Ordzhonikidze
Coastal:
RI Pulau Rau(501)
German, Pulau Rau-class, modification of R-Boat/Räumboote class
RI PP 01
British, Harbour defence motor launch, ex dutch
RI Pulau Rani(701)
Soviet, T43-class/Project 254M & 254K
RI Barakuda
Soviet, Kronshtadt-class/Project122bis submarine chaser
RI Hiu(805)
American, PC-461-class submarine chasers
RI Ular Laut
[no photos]
Soviet, Project 191M, very obscure but 12 units were obtained in 1963
RI Angin Bohorok(1601)
Soviet, P-6 Class/Project 183 Bolshevik
RI Lajang/Layang
Kraljevica-class anti-sub patrol boat, ex-PBR-515
RI Samadikun(341)
American, Claud Jones-class destroyer escort, Ex-USS John R. Perry, the guns were changed to the soviet 37mm V11M and 2M3 25mm
RI Adjak
German, Jaguar-class fast attack craft
RI Ngurah Rai(344)
American, Claud Jones-class destroyer escort, Ex- USS McMorris, standard us armament, unlike the Samadikun
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