Siam-Thailand Lineups For Japanese Tech Tree

Hello,

I would like to start a discussion on the effects of the easement of the Three Arms Exports Ban and how it can affect the state of this proposed tech tree with Thailand. From what I can research, Japan has very limited success on its military exports but their first major success had been with the Philippines with Japan winning the bid for the ASRS Acquisition Project with the Mitsubishi FPS-3 Radar which was also offered to Thailand but from what I can see, it failed with Thailand choosing to go with Leonardo instead.

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This however is not the only instance of Japan exporting military equipment. Before the 2014 repealment of the Three Arms Exports Ban by Shinzo Abe, Japan sent its retiring F-104Js to Taiwan’s ADTW in 1981.


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ROC Air Force F-104J (Serial No. 4303)

Aside from this, Japan was able to build 2 Kunigami-class Patrol Vessels for the Philippine Coast Guard named as the Teresa Magbanua-class Patrol Vessels which have braved Chinese Coast Guard’s Harassment in the disputed West Philippine Sea.


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BRP Teresa Magbuna (MRRV-9701)

Japan also has signed a contract to build 8 Mogami-Class Stealth Frigates for Indonesia and 6 Aso-class Patrol Vessels for the Vietnamese Coast Guard.


Mogami-class Stealth Frigate


Aso-class Patrol Vessel

Why discuss this you ask?

Well, Japan’s late entry into the defense export industry makes it hard to connect Japan to other nations but it does not mean it cant. Unfortunately, I cant see any concrete military exports to Thailand. If anybody knows any information on that matter it would be great.

The closest one that couldve happened was when rumors of Japan exporting its retiring Type 74s to the Philippines which if it had happened, would mean we could have like at least another rare Type 74 for the TT lol. But too bad, Japan is too much of a pussy to sell its military equipment. If you have any other news of Japanese exports, please share them thanks!

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I heard Taiwan engineers found parts and engines from West Germany F-104G and Mitsubishi F-104J are not changeable sometimes lmao

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IIRC the F-104J came before the G variant right? Maybe the engines not being interchangeable is the result of the avionics upgrades which probably changed the way how the engines are mounted? Im just spitballing lol, but why would it not be interchangeable I wonder - its the same engine across the variants right?

the same engine but one is MTU’s licensed production and another is Kawasaki’s i remember
And AIDC or what something upgraded these J varients to G standard

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From what I could think off in terms of vehicle exports most is WWII (which is arguably still half of the game right now). Here it would’ve been various aircraft, ships and Ha-Go tanks. Those go hand in hand with the actual military alliance the two nations had.

I guess reused Type 98 cannons mounted to T17E2 armored cars would also be related to Japan for that matter.

As far as post war goes the ones I can think of would be the Thai RTAF-2, their first domestic aircraft development post war, which was based on a Japanese Fuji LM-1. Another one would be the FD-25B Defender, the only armed military aircraft purpose built for export in post war Japan.

There might be more I forgot though.

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AT-6TH with Thai Air Force camouflage firstly appears

AT-6 is coming

The AT-6TH Pilot Training Course at Textron Aviation Defense in Wichita, Kansas, scheduled from February 12 to May 15, 2024.
Eight pioneer participants from 411 Squadron, Wing 41, are attending the course, which includes close air support mission (CAS) training with the MX-15Di configuration, GBU-12 bombs, 2.75" rockets (M156), and HMP-400 .50 caliber guns. They are flying AT-6TH numbered 41103, which the Royal Thai Air Force has purchased and will be delivered to 411 Squadron, Wing 41 by the end of this year.
AT-6 is coming… - กองทัพอากาศไทย Royal Thai Air Force | Facebook






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Oh, finally 👀 I will finish my suggestion for it and put it to the other ones in queue ^^

Edit: Done, there are now seven suggestions just for Thailand pending

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The last of the propellers. Royal Thai Airforce F-8F Bearcat, Royal Thai Airforce’s last propeller-driven fighter aircraft.


Royal Thai Airforce received 204 F8F-1 and F8F-1B Bearcat fighters from the United States between 1951-1955, designated Fighter Type 15 by the Royal Thai Airforce. The Aircrafts were commissioned into 6 fighter squadrons for both Air defense and Ground attack roles. The Bearcat was the last piston-engine powered and propeller-driven fighter in RTAF’s inventory.

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Does anyone know what the gun depression angles are for the BTR-3E?

-5 to +45 degree - I will add it to my Suggestion

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Thank you, unfortunately it’s within the usual Soviet amount but good to know

new Tank Encyclopedia article of M3 Half-Track with 105mm Bofors howitzer

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Tested In Thailand! Some pictures of foreign vehicles tested, but not adopted, by Thailand


Leopard 1A5


Vickers Mk3

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Fox ARV


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SK-105 Kürassier



TH-301

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Isn’t the second picture picture of some Vickers tank?

Vickers mk3

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Interesting, I’ve never heard of Vickers mk3 being tested in Thailand before. Thanks for informing me, I will edit the post in accordance with this information.

Im sorry but I cannot let this die in a single comment, this bad boy is going to cement Japan as the derp gun nation in WT lol.

They better add that other 105mm SPG as well that was in early service of the JGSDF.

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I have this pending proposal for the M113A2 UT25 used by the Philippine Army and is a unique upgrade package. I was thinking this could be a good sidegrade for the DTI AAPC or whatever that AFV with 30mm Turret is being referenced by the original subtree proposal (just checked, I thought it was the ACV-15 but its not). It has the capability to use airburst munitions and could be equipped with SPIKE ATGM and modern thermals but was not fitted to the Philippine upgrade variants iirc. Moar M113 lmao

Let me know what you guys think!

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Having Filipino vehicles in the Japanese, especially to compliment the Thai Sub-Tree would be a good idea, they mostly use light tanks in contrast to Thailand’s more balanced tank roster (some light, some medium, a couple bordering on heavy such as the Oplot)

Also here is a Thai GAF Nomad

and a Thai PAC CT-4

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if you are wondering if the CT-4 can be armed in any way the answer is:

Spoiler

Yes, what is shown is a CT-4 with rocket pods
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Alright, here we go. My seven suggestions for Thailand were approved :D

Added them to a general list of suggestions for Thailand:

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