British Vickers/Export MBT line - what's left to add

The Vickers/Export MBT line in the British tech tree is undoubtedly one of the strongest and most enjoyable sections of the ground tech tree, offering a welcome change in playstyle from the domestic MBT line, which has, at times, some speed-related deficiencies.

With the British tech tree being restructured shortly, now is the perfect time to start a discussion about the various Vickers and Export MBTs produced and/or modified by Britain currently missing in-game, as I believe there are some notable ones.

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  • With the feedback given in this thread so far, as well as a few other bits, I’ve compiled an in-progress list of the current, not yet in-game, British-built, export-focused tanks and upgrade packages that would fit well into the second MBT line of the British tree… This list is certainly not final, so if you have anything to add please share it !

Vickers Offerings

Vickers Mk 1 Family

Vickers Mk 1 (Improved)

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A Vickers Mk 1, as already in-game, but with an upgraded 750hp engine, a laser rangefinder, improved -10° of gun depression, and access to more modern ammunition (potentially early APFSDS, like L64A4, but at a minimum L52 APDS and HEAT).

Vickers Mk 3 Family

Vickers Mk 3 (Improved)

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A Vickers Mk 3, as in-game, but with a new, cast hull, 900hp engine upgrade, laser rangefinder, and access to first and second generation 105mm APFSDS, so DM23 and DM33 for current in-game stuff, or L64A4 and H6/62 for some unique British options. Essentially a British Leopard 1A5.

Vickers Mk 3 (M)

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The most modern Vickers Mk 3, from the late 90s/early 2000s, featuring extensive ROMOR ERA, thermal sights, laser warning system, and some of the most modern 105mm APFSDS round, either DM63, or Excalibur for a unique British option.

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Vickers Mk 4 Family

Vickers Mk 4 Valiant 105mm

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Vickers’ earliest attempt at a budget-oriented, Chobham-Armoured tank for the export market and the first appearance of the Universal Turret. Long overdue for the game at this point, the Valiant has a 1,000hp engine, 22hp/tonne, respectable but not unbeatable Chobham armour across the frontal arc, and access to second generation 105mm APFSDS, like DM33 and potentially H6/62 for a British option.

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Vickers Mk 4 Valiant 120mm (Early)

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The same Valiant hull, now with a redesigned and up-gunned universal turret featuring the L11 rifled 120mm, essentially the same turret as seen on the Vickers Mk 7 in-game.

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Vickers Mk 4 Valiant 120mm (Late)

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Once again, the same base hull, incorporating the redesigned Universal Turret as seen on the Vickers Mk 7/2. If the regular Valiant is the Vickers Mk 4, then this is the Vickers Mk 4/2.

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Vickers FMC Mk 5 Family

VFM5 (L7 105mm)

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A VFM5 with the venerable L7 105mm cannon as opposed to the Royal Ordnance LRF 105mm. Whilst functionally identical to the one in-game, it could be given some unique ammunition (like Excalibur 105mm APFSDS) to give Britain a higher BR tracked light tank.

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Vickers Mk 7 Family

Vickers Mk 7/2

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A Vickers Mk 7, as seen in game, with a redesigned 120mm Universal Turret, branded the Vickers Mk 7/2.

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Desert Challenger/Challenger 2E Family

Desert Challenger

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An early variant of the Challenger 2E, then known as the Desert Challenger, which lacks the redesigned mantlet, retains the barrel mounted TOGS, and has a drivers camera with thermal imaging. All while keeping the 1,500hp engine. A unique option for another highly mobile Challenger 2.

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Desert Challenger (IRIS)

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Another early variant of the Desert Challenger, now with the Sagem IRIS Commanders Thermal Imager

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Challenger 2E (IRIS)

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A later variant of the Desert Challenger, now branded the Challenger 2E, with the drivers thermal imaging camera removed, the commanders thermal sights retained, and still lacking the redesigned mantlet of the later Challenger 2E that we have in-game.

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Vickers Centurion Retrofit Packages

Vickers Retrofit Centurion (Early)

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A basic retrofit package for the Centurion, based on a Mk 5 chassis, incorporating a 750hp engine upgrade.

Vickers Retrofit Centurion (1973)

Vickers Retrofit Centurion (Late)

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A more advanced retrofit package for the Centurion, featuring the same new 750hp engine, but also new FCS, a laser rangefinder, and, importantly, access to early 105mm APFSDS, like L64A4. Essentially a British Olifant Mk 1A.

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Royal Ordnance Offerings

Royal Ordnance Type 59 Upgrades

Royal Ordnance Type 59 (L7 105mm) Revision 1

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A comprehensive Type 59 upgrade package offered by Royal Ordnance, including upgunning to an L7 105mm, a stablisier, laser rangefinder, and addition of APFSDS rounds, like L64A4 or H6/62.

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Royal Ordnance Type 59 (L7 105mm) Revision 2

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The same base upgrade package as the Type 59 revision 1, now with a generous coating of ROMOR B Applique armour across the frontal arc, and ROMOR A ERA across the sides of the vehicle.

Royal Ordnance T-55 Upgrades

Royal Ordnance T-55 (L7 105mm)

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A very similar upgrade package to the Type 59 Revision 1, but this time the base vehicle is an ex-Polish/Czech T-55 instead of a Type 59.

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Royal Ordnance 105mm Improved Weapon System (IWS) Upgrades

Leopard (Pre-Series) IWS

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A Pre-Series Leopard 1 (basically a museum piece stolen borrowed from Bovington), upgunned with the Royal Ordnance 105mm Improved Weapon System (IWS). The below suggestion posts have a little more info on the cannon, but essentially it is an extremely high performance 105mm barrel, firing the newly developed T2 APFSDS, for performance in line with M900, or early 120mm APFSDS.

Leopard C1 IWS

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Another trials platform for the 105mm IWS, this time a Leopard C1. This would be a very mobile, stabilised, laser rangefinding platform with an extremely high-performing APFSDS round. A lovely option for the higher tiers of the tree.

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M60A1 RISE IWS

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Yet another trials platform for the 105mm IWS, this time the M60A1 (RISE). So it would be stablised, and have a laser rangefinder, but certainly wouldn’t be as quick as the above Leopard C1. Slow, steady, and mounting an absolute railgun.

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(Small note - although gaijin has recently stated they are considering adding some Commonwealth MBTs to this line, this thread is for the discussion of British vehicles either made or modified for the export market. The Commonwealth is a group of 56 countries that have operated essentially every MBT under the sun, if people are interested in discussing these vehicles then a separate thread can be started)

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Vickers is supa cool

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I LOVE VICKERS RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!
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I SACRIFICE MY LIFE FOR VICKERISTAN!!!

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still plenty,
Vickers Mk.4 (with varying guns)
Vickers Mk.7/2
Vickers Mk.3M
Vickers Mk.E
Charioteer 105 (hopefully foldered with Charioteer VII)
the 95mm Churchills like Mk.V and Mk.VIII
and potentially the Churchill AVRE 165

considering its the “Commonwealth” line too its going to be very full with things, like Arjun for example and everything else the commonwealth has imported or created, but as you said, not for this topic

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In all seriousness, there are so many vickers tanks that could be added to the tree at all BR’s, so I would love to see them all added.

100% think we need foldered variants of the Mk 1 and Mk 3, need me some fast tanks.

Of course, we need the 7/2 RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH I LOVE THE 7/2!!!

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You’re not you when you’re grinding, here eat a vickers

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VICKISTAN Forever!!!

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if the 7/2 aint in the game tommorow we gonna crash out

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Vickers MBT’s:

  • Vickers MBT Mk 1 (I)
  • Vickers MBT Mk 1 (Swingfire)
  • Vickers MBT Mk 3 (I)
  • Vickers MBT Mk 3 (M)
  • Vickers MBT Mk 4 (L7)
  • Vickers MBT Mk 4 (L11)
  • Vickers MBT Mk 4 (Rh-120)
  • Vickers MBT Mk 7/2 (L11)
  • Vickers MBT Mk 7/2 (Rh-120)

Existing:

  • Challenger 2E: Was built as an export vehicle, could easily be moved to the export line.

If you want to bring in the Commonwealth, which Gaijin was hinting at for this line, then there’s things like the:

  • Olifant Mk.1
  • Vijayanta Mk 2
  • Arjun Mk 1
  • Arjun Mk 1A
  • M1A1 AIM
  • Leopard 2A4M

There’s easily two dozen odd vehicles you could grab from the Commonwealth and add here.

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The Loggim also wasn’t mention but would be very good and competitive

We should’ve adopted every tank built by Vickers. They were the true goats.

(Exception to be made for the Legacy Challenger)

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This thread is for the discussion of vehicles produced by the great nation of Vickeristan for the export market.

If there is interest in commonwealth MBTs another thread can be started.

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would to see all those vickers tanks would give the british a leopard type vehicle set

Could this be a decal or would the snail need legal permission?

I only support Shimakazistan!

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luv me vickers
luv me l7
'ate the t-55 (not racist just dont like em)
simple as

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I would imagine they need legal permission

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I wonder if gaijin will ever give us this

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The two variants of the Mk.4 need to come to the game. (There are way more than two variants)

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Sir that’s a Challenger 1

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