BeNeLux (Belgium, Netherlands & Luxembourg) Bluewater Fleet Techtree

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BeNeLux Bluewater Fleet

Belgium - Netherlands - Luxembourg


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Hello everyone! Welcome to the official BeNeLux Bluewater Fleet Techtree suggestion. This BeNeLux Techtree has been made by the Fan-made BeNeLux Techtree Discord server: https://discord.gg/PEW9bFp


Foreword:

What is the BeNeLux?

BeNeLux stands for Belgium - Netherlands - Luxembourg. It is an official politico-economic union and formal international intergovernmental cooperation of three neighboring states in western Europe.

Why combine the countries into one techtree?

From a historical point of view, Belgium and the Netherlands already have military cooperations. For example, there is a BeNeLux Navy Command, both countries purchased each others military products in the past, and with the Air Force, both the Netherlands and Belgian squadrons take turns protecting the BeNeLux Air Space.

From an ingame point of view the Netherlands and Belgium are two countries that both have lots of very interesting vehicles, but are also both a little lacking in some regards when we look at them from an ingame point of view. To give some examples:

Netherlands: Unique Air Force, Little lacking in Army, Very unique Navy.
Belgium: Unique Air Force, lots of unique Army vehicles, lacking in their Navy.

You can quite easily see why a union of the two countries makes sense. Together both countries add to eachother, Belgium adds to the lacking Dutch army, and the Dutch add to the lacking Belgian Navy.

How about Luxembourg?

Well it is true that Luxembourg does not add anything of value to the BeNeLux techtrees (From an ingame point of view Luxembourg only has a TOW armed Humvee and an armed Police helicopter).
But then again they also wouldn’t make sense in a German or French techtree either. In reality Luxembourg does not have a place in War Thunder. But since the BeNeLux is an official union we decided to include Luxembourg just for the sake of giving them a place ingame.
Their Air Force and Army decals can be added alongside Belgian and Dutch onces.

About the battleships

Neither the Belgian or Dutch navy had any battleships. Even worse, neither ever even had a heavy cruiser. Now the lack of heavy cruisers can sort of be fixed with the introduction of the Dutch “Pantserschepen” (Small armoured cruisers), but there are no replacements for the Battleships.

So in reality, if this techtree were to be added into the game following the current ingame techtree examples, then the Dutch navy would just stop at this Light Cruiser/Armoured Cruiser BR.

But the Dutch did invest quite some time and money into getting battleship designs. And while they never got past this blueprint stage, we’ve decided to include them into this techtree. Not because we demand them ingame, but just to share this information for these cool battleship designs.
If you are against adding Blueprint design ships into the game, then please just consider them as not part of the proposed techtree. They are just there to shine some light on them.


A quick introduction:

Looking ingame right now, we have a very rare opportunity. Aside from a few modified Dutch designs such as the German Kanonenboot K2 (Which is a modified Dutch K-class gunboat), and the Finnish Fokker D.21 (Which has been modified by the Finish by adding 20mm guns under the wings) we actually don’t have a single true Belgian, Dutch or Luxembourg vehicle ingame.

So unlike the latest added nation, Israel (We already had Merkava’s in the US techtree and a Shot in the British techtree), the BeNeLux would add all completely new and unique vehicles to the game.

This suggestion is for the Bluewater Fleet Techtree. Unlike the BeNeLux Air or Ground techtree, this Bluewater fleet one is, aside from two ships, entirely unique! It offers the usual Destroyers and Light Cruisers, but in order to fill out the techtree even more the tree also has lots of big armoured gunboats, two protected cruisers and even a couple of small armoured cruisers! And for those who don’t mind ships that only existed on blueprints, there are lots of battleships to choose from.

The Belgian Navy sadly didn’t have much for Bluewater Fleet ships. But just to make the two ships they did have a little more special we’ve put them in their own little line.

So with that out of the way, let’s dive in!




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Belgian Line

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Rank 1

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BNS Kamina (AP957 - 1952)

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Description: This was a large cargo/auxiliary ship built in Belgium but was captured in 1940 by the Germans while it was still being constructed. The British managed to capture the vessel in 1945, and later in 1950 it was returned to the Belgian Navy where it went into service as a training vessel.

Type: Gunboat
BR: 3.3

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Displacement: 5,202 tons
Length: 114 m
Beam: 14.7 m
Draught: 4.5 m

Propulsion: 3,600 HP, 1 Burgmeister & Wain 2-stroke 7-cylinder diesel
Speed: 14.5 knots (26.85 km/h)

Armament:
2 x 1 76 mm cannons
4 x 1 40 mm L/60 autocannons
2 x 1 20 mm Oerlikon autocannons

Armour:
Nothing worth mentioning


BNS Artevelde (1951)

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Description: Belgian Gunboat laid down just before WW2. It was captured by the Germans while it was still under construction. After the war the ship returned to Belgian service where it kept the German guns that had been fitted to it.

Type: Gunboat
BR: 3.7

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Displacement: 2,270 tons
Length: 98.43 m
Beam: 10.54 m
Draught: 3.65 m

Propulsion: 21,700 HP, 2 x Parsons Rake turbines
Speed: 28.5 knots (52.78 km/h)

Armament:
3 x 1 105 mm SK C/32 cannons
4 x 1 37 mm autocannons
4 x 4 20 mm C/38 autocannons
120 x mines

Armour:
Nothing worth mentioning


Destroyer/Cruiser Line

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Rank 1

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Wolf-class destroyer, HNLMS Panter (1914)

Description: Dutch Destroyer of the 1910’s.

Type: Destroyer
BR: 3.3

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Displacement: 510 tons
Length: 70.5 m
Beam: 6.6 m
Draught: 2.8 m
Crew: 64

Propulsion: 8,500 HP, 2 × Krupp-Germania steam turbines
Speed: 30 knots (55.56 km/h)

Armament:
4 x 1 75 mm cannons
4 x 1 7.92 mm machine guns
2 x 1 450 mm torpedo tubes (Whitehead torpedoes)

Armour:
Nothing worth mentioning


Admiralen-class destroyer, HNLMS Evertsen (EV - 1928)

Description: The Admiralen-class were eight destroyers built for the Royal Netherlands Navy between 1926 and 1931. HNLMS Evertsen was part of the first batch of four ships built of this class. This first batch lacks any kind of anti-air autocannons.
Suggestion topic: Dutch Admiralen-class destroyer (1st Batch), HNLMS Evertsen

Type: Destroyer
BR: 3.7

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Displacement: 1.680 tons
Length: 98.15 m
Beam: 9.45 m
Draught: 3 m
Crew: 149

Propulsion: 31,000 HP, 2 x Parson turbines, 3 x 3-drum Yarrow waterpipeboilers
Speed: 36 knots (66.67 km/h)

Armament:
4 x 1 120 mm No. 4 cannons
2 x 1 75 mm No. 6 cannon
4 x 1 12.7 mm Browning machine guns
2 x 3 533 mm torpedo tubes (Whitehead Type II torpedoes)
4 x 1 Depth charge throwers, with 12 depth charges total
2 x 1 mine lauching rails, with 24 Vickers mines total

1 x 1 Aircraft catapult, with the Van Berkel W-A floatplane carried. (Max speed 135 km/h, 1 x 7.92 mm Lewis machine gun in a gunner position)

Armour:
Nothing worth mentioning


Admiralen-class destroyer, HNLMS Witte de With (WW - 1930)

Description: The Admiralen-class were eight destroyers built for the Royal Netherlands Navy between 1926 and 1931. HNLMS Witte de With was part of the second batch of two ships built of this class. Unlike the first batch, this second batch has four anti-air autocannons onboard.
Suggestion topic: Dutch Admiralen-class destroyer (2nd Batch), HNLMS Witte de With

Type: Destroyer
BR: 4.0

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Displacement: 1.680 tons
Length: 98.15 m
Beam: 9.45 m
Draught: 3 m
Crew: 149

Propulsion: 31,000 HP, 2 x Parson turbines, 3 x 3-drum Yarrow waterpipeboilers
Speed: 36 knots (66.67 km/h)

Armament:
4 x 1 120 mm No. 5 cannons
1 x 1 75 mm No. 7 cannon
4 x 1 40 mm No. 1 autocannons (Pom-poms)
4 x 1 12.7 mm Browning machine guns
2 x 3 533 mm torpedo tubes (Whitehead Type II torpedoes)
4 x 1 Depth charge throwers, with 12 depth charges total
2 x 1 mine lauching rails, with 24 Vickers mines total

1 x 1 Aircraft catapult, with the Van Berkel W-A floatplane carried. (Max speed 135 km/h, 1 x 7.92 mm Lewis machine gun in a gunner position)

Armour:
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Gerard Callenburgh-class destroyer, HNLMS Isaac Sweers (1941)

Description: Isaac Sweers was part of a class of four destroyers ordered for the Royal Netherlands Navy just before World War II. Only two out of the four ships were launched in the end, one under Dutch service and one under German service after they captured it. HNLMS Isaac Sweers fled to Britain when Germany invaded and was fitted British weapons.

Type: Destroyer
BR: 4.3

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Displacement: 2,228 tons
Length: 107 m
Beam: 10.6 m
Draught: 2.8 m
Crew: 158

Propulsion: 45,000 HP, 2 shaft, Parsons geared turbines, 3 Yarrow type boilers
Speed: 37.5 knots (69.5 km/h)

Armament:
3 x 2 102 mm QF 4-inch Mark XVI cannons
2 x 2 40 mm Mark IV Bofors autocannons
2 x 4 12.7 mm Mark III Vickers machine guns
2 x 3 533 mm torpedo tubes

Armour:
Nothing worth mentioning


Gerard Callenburgh-class destroyer, HNLMS Gerard Callenburgh (1938 - project)

Description: Gerard Callenburgh was part of a class of four destroyers ordered for the Royal Netherlands Navy just before World War II. Only two out of the four ships were launched in the end, one under Dutch service and one under German service after they captured it. HNLMS Gerard Callenburgh was not finished before Germany invaded and captured it, so in this techtree Gerard Callenburgh is added in her proposed form if she was completed according to the Dutch blueprints.

Type: Destroyer
BR: 4.3

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Displacement: 2,228 tons
Length: 107 m
Beam: 10.6 m
Draught: 2.8 m
Crew: 158

Propulsion: 45,000 HP, 2 shaft, Parsons geared turbines, 3 Yarrow type boilers
Speed: 37.5 knots (69.5 km/h)

Armament:
2 x 2 120 mm Wilton-Fijenoord No. 8 cannons
1 x 1 120 mm Wilton-Fijenoord No. 8 cannon
2 x 2 40 mm Hazemeijer Bofors autocannons
4 x 1 12.7 mm Vickers machine guns
2 x 4 533 mm torpedo tubes

1 x 1 Aircraft catapult

Armour:
Nothing worth mentioning


Gerard Callenburgh-class destroyer, HNLMS Tjerk Hiddes (1938 - project)


The hull on the left is Tjerk Hiddes. On the right is Gerard Callenburgh

Description: Tjerk Hiddes was part of a class of four destroyers ordered for the Royal Netherlands Navy just before World War II. Only two out of the four ships were launched in the end, one under Dutch service and one under German service after they captured it. HNLMS Tjerk Hiddes was one of the two ships that were not launched. However the hull was laid down and construction was going well untill Germany invaded. In order to avoid capture the hull was destroyed.

Type: Destroyer
BR: 4.3

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Displacement: 2,228 tons
Length: 107 m
Beam: 10.6 m
Draught: 2.8 m
Crew: 158

Propulsion: 45,000 HP, 2 shaft, Parsons geared turbines, 3 Yarrow type boilers
Speed: 37.5 knots (69.5 km/h)

Armament:
2 x 2 120 mm Wilton-Fijenoord No. 8 cannons
1 x 1 120 mm Wilton-Fijenoord No. 8 cannon
2 x 2 40 mm Hazemeijer Bofors autocannons
4 x 1 12.7 mm Vickers machine guns
2 x 4 533 mm torpedo tubes

1 x 1 Aircraft catapult

Armour:
Nothing worth mentioning


Rank 3

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Friesland-class destroyer, HNLMS Friesland (D812 - 1953)

Description: The Friesland-class destroyer was a class of destroyers built during the 1950’s.

Type: Destroyer
BR: 4.7

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Displacement: 3,070 tons
Length: 116 m
Beam: 11.7 m
Draught: 5.2 m
Crew: 284

Propulsion: 60,000 HP, 2 shaft geared turbines, 4 BW boilers, Super-heated steam
Speed: 36 knots (67 km/h)

Armament:
2 x 2 120 mm Bofors No 10 cannons
6 x 1 40 mm Bofors No 6 autocannons
2 x 4 375 mm Bofors anti-submarine rocket launchers

Armour:
Nothing worth mentioning


Friesland-class destroyer, HNLMS Utrecht (D817 - 1961)

Description: The Friesland-class destroyer was a class of destroyers built during the 1950’s. HNLMS Utrecht was fitted with eight torpedo tubes for a short time. She was the only ship of the Friesland-class to have these.

Type: Destroyer
BR: 5.0

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The torpedo tubes fitted to Utrecht

Displacement: 3,070 tons
Length: 116 m
Beam: 11.7 m
Draught: 5.2 m
Crew: 284

Propulsion: 60,000 HP, 2 shaft geared turbines, 4 BW boilers, Super-heated steam
Speed: 36 knots (67 km/h)

Armament:
2 x 2 120 mm Bofors No 10 cannons
6 x 1 40 mm Bofors No 6 autocannons
2 x 4 375 mm Bofors anti-submarine rocket launchers
8 x 1 533 mm torpedo tubes (Mark 20 torpedoes)

Armour:
Nothing worth mentioning


Tromp-class light cruiser, HNLMS Jacob van Heemskerck (1940)

Description: The Tromp-class was a class of two flotilla leaders. Jacob van Heemskerck was the second ship made of this class, but she was still unfinished by the time Germany invaded the Netherlands. The ship fled to Britain while being unarmed and was fitted with British armaments when it arrived there.

Type: Light Cruiser
BR: 4.7

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Displacement: 3,404 tons
Length: 131.95 m
Beam: 12.43 m
Draught: 4.32 m
Crew: 420

Propulsion: 56,000 HP, 2 Parsons geared steam turbines, 4 Yarrow boilers
Speed: 32.5 knots (60.2 km/h)

Armament:
5 x 2 102 mm QF 4-inch Mark XVI cannons
1 x 4 40 mm Mark VII Pom-pom autocannons
6 x 1 20 mm Hispano 404 autocannons

Armour:
Belt: 15 mm
Citadel: 30 mm
Deck: 25 mm
Barbettes: 12 mm

Forward Conning Tower: 10 mm
Aft Conning Tower: 12 mm
Ammunition elevators: 15 mm


Tromp-class light cruiser, HNLMS Tromp (1944)

Description: The Tromp-class was a class of two flotilla leaders. Tromp was the first ship made of this class. The one in this techtree is the late war 1944 refit. The ship was fitted with 76mm, 40mm and 20mm weapons on top of the existing weapons.

Type: Light Cruiser
BR: 5.0

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Armour sheme of the Tromp-class cruiser

Displacement: 3,404 tons
Length: 131.95 m
Beam: 12.43 m
Draught: 4.32 m
Crew: 380

Propulsion: 56,000 HP, 2 Parsons geared steam turbines, 4 Yarrow boilers
Speed: 32.5 knots (60.2 km/h)

Armament:
3 x 2 150 mm Wilton-Fijenoord No 11 cannons
4 x 1 76 mm Vickers cannons
2 x 2 40 mm Hazemeijer Bofors autocannons
2 x 2 20 mm Oerlikon Mark V autocannons
4 x 1 20 mm Oerlikon Mark 10 autocannons
2 x 3 533 mm torpedo tubes

Armour:
Belt: 15 mm
Citadel: 30 mm
Deck: 25 mm
Barbettes: 12 mm

Forward Conning Tower: 10 mm
Aft Conning Tower: 12 mm
Ammunition elevators: 15 mm

150 mm turrets (Front - Sides - Rear - Roof): 25 - 15 - open - 15 mm


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De Zeven Provinciën-class cruiser, HNLMS De Ruyter (C801 - 1953)

Description: The De Zeven Provinciën-class cruiser was a post-WW2 cruiser class. Two ships of the class were built, and the two hulls had been laid down even before WW2. At this time they were known as the Eendracht-class cruiser. Due to the German invasion the two hulls could not be finished with their intended weaponry.

After the second world war both hulls were still intact, and so the Dutch decided to finish them with brand new weapons, radar systems and more.

Type: Light Cruiser
BR: 5.7

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Displacement: 9,629 tons
Length: 182.4 m
Beam: 17.3 m
Draught: 6.7 m
Crew: 957

Propulsion: 85,000 HP, 2 sets De Schelde-Parsons geared steam turbines, 4 Werkspoor-Yarrow boilers
Speed: 32 knots (59.24 km/h)

Armament:
4 x 2 152 mm Bofors No 15 cannons
4 x 2 57 mm Bofors No 1 autocannons
8 x 1 40 mm Bofors No 6 autocannons

Armour:
Belt: 75 mm
Citadel: 30 mm
Deck: 20 mm
Barbettes: 75 mm

Forward Conning Tower: 10 mm
Aft Conning Tower: 10 mm
Ammunition elevators: 60 mm


De Zeven Provinciën-class cruiser, HNLMS De Zeven Provinciën (C802 - 1964)

Description: The De Zeven Provinciën-class cruiser was a post-WW2 cruiser class. Two ships of the class were built, and the two hulls had been laid down even before WW2. At this time they were known as the Eendracht-class cruiser. Due to the German invasion the two hulls could not be finished with their intended weaponry.

After the second world war both hulls were still intact, and so the Dutch decided to finish them with brand new weapons, radar systems and more. This 1964 refit saw the removal of some of the main and secondairy turrets, and in their place a RIM-2 Terrier anti aircraft missile launcher was added.

Type: Light Cruiser
BR: 5.7

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Displacement: 9,629 tons
Length: 182.4 m
Beam: 17.3 m
Draught: 6.7 m
Crew: 957

Propulsion: 85,000 HP, 2 sets De Schelde-Parsons geared steam turbines, 4 Werkspoor-Yarrow boilers
Speed: 32 knots (59.24 km/h)

Armament:
2 x 2 152 mm Bofors No 15 cannons
3 x 2 57 mm Bofors No 1 autocannons
4 x 1 40 mm Bofors No 6 autocannons
1 x 1 RIM-2 Terrier launcher (Anti-Air missiles with a range of 32km)

Armour:
Belt: 75 mm
Citadel: 30 mm
Deck: 20 mm
Barbettes: 75 mm

Forward Conning Tower: 10 mm
Aft Conning Tower: 10 mm
Ammunition elevators: 60 mm


Rank 5

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Project 743 (1912 - blueprint)

Description: Dutch battleship design made by Krupp-Germania in 1912. This was the first design presented to the Dutch navy, it formed the basis of a couple of other designs that followed shortly after. It’s armed with 343 mm guns, but two of the turrets are placed as wing turret, which is kinda odd for a ship designed with these larger guns in 1912.

Type: Battleship
BR: 6.3

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Displacement: 21,300 tons
Length: 174 m
Beam: 27 m
Draught: 8.077 m
Depth: 12.1 m

Propulsion: 33,534 HP, 3 x Germania-type main turbine sets, 9 x coal-fired Germania-Schulz watertube boilers
Speed: 22.5 knots (41.67 km/h)

Armament:
4 x 2 343 mm L/50 guns (480 rounds of ammunition)
12 x 1 150 mm L/50 guns (2400 rounds of ammunition)
8 x 1 75 mm L/50 guns behind shields (1200 rounds of ammunition)
6 x 1 75 mm L/50 guns firing through ports in the bow and stern (1200 rounds of ammunition)
4 x 1 533 mm submerged side-launching torpedo tubes
Futher small caliber weapons would have most likely been added if the design was futher developed

Armour:
Belt: 100 - 250 - 80 mm (Aft - Middle - Fore)
Upper belt: 150 mm
Citadel: 300 - 200 mm
Splinterbulkhead: 25 - 15 mm
Torpedobulkheads: 37 mm
Traverses: 25 mm
Funnel casings: 40 mm

Upper Deck: 25 mm
Deck: 25 mm
Main deck: 25 mm
Barbettes: 300 - 150 - 100 - 80 mm
Casemates front: 150 mm
Forward Conning Tower: 400 - 300 - 200 mm
Aft Conning Tower: 400 mm
Range finding positions: 400 mm

343 mm turrets: 300 - 220 - 250 - 100 (Face - Sides - Rear - Horizontal roof)
150 mm gun shields: 100 mm
75 mm gun shields: 50 mm


Project 733A (1914 - blueprint)

Description: Dutch battleship design made by Blohm & Voss in 1914. There were three 733 designs made. Supposedly Blohm & Voss was testing with different armour layouts. So my best guess is that each of the three designs tested new ideas. This 733A is the first of the three designs.

Type: Battleship
BR: 6.7

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Displacement: 24,900 tons
Length: 172.8 m
Beam: 29 m
Draught: 8.74 m
Depth: 14.4 m

Propulsion: 38,000 SHP Oil-fired Yarrow Watertube Boilers, One funnel, four propeller shafts
Speed: 22 knots (40.7 km/h)

Armament:
4 x 2 356 mm L/45 Krupp guns (800 rounds of ammunition)
16 x 1 152 mm guns (1800 rounds of ammunition)
6 x 1 76.2 mm guns in HA mounts (1200 rounds of ammunition)
6 x 1 76.2 mm guns in LA mounts (1200 rounds of ammunition)
Unclear ammount of broadside torpedo tubes
1 x 1 533 mm stern Torpedo tube
Futher small caliber weapons would have most likely been added if the design was futher developed

Armour:
**Belt: 100 - 250 - 150 mm (Aft - Middle - Fore)
Upper belt: 180 mm
Splinterbulkhead: 50 mm
Back bulkheads: 25 mm
Torpedobulkheads: 30 mm

Traverses: 25 mm
Top Deck: 37 mm
Deck: 25 mm
Armoured deck: 30 mm slope, 12.5 mm flat
Barbettes: 300 - 75 mm
Casemates front: 180 mm


Project 733C (1914 - blueprint)

Description: Dutch battleship design made by Blohm & Voss in 1914. There were three 733 designs made. Supposedly Blohm & Voss was testing with different armour layouts. So my best guess is that each of the three designs tested new ideas. This 733C is the last of the three designs.

Type: Battleship
BR: 6.7

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Displacement: 24,900 tons
Length: 172.8 m
Beam: 29 m
Draught: 8.74 m
Depth: 14.4 m

Propulsion: 38,000 SHP Oil-fired Yarrow Watertube Boilers, One funnel, four propeller shafts
Speed: 22 knots (40.7 km/h)

Armament:
4 x 2 356 mm L/45 Krupp guns (800 rounds of ammunition)
16 x 1 152 mm guns (1800 rounds of ammunition)
6 x 1 76.2 mm guns in HA mounts (1200 rounds of ammunition)
6 x 1 76.2 mm guns in LA mounts (1200 rounds of ammunition)
Unclear ammount of broadside torpedo tubes
1 x 1 533 mm stern Torpedo tube
Futher small caliber weapons would have most likely been added if the design was futher developed

Armour:
**Belt: 100 - 250 - 150 mm (Aft - Middle - Fore)
Upper belt: 180 mm
Splinterbulkhead: 50 mm
Back bulkheads: 25 mm
Torpedobulkheads: 30 mm

Traverses: 25 mm
Top Deck: 37 mm
Deck: 25 mm
Armoured deck: 30 mm slope, 12.5 mm flat
Barbettes: 300 - 75 mm
Casemates front: 180 mm


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Project 1047 (1940 - blueprint)

Description: Dutch version of the German Scharnhorst-class. This was designed just before the second world war, and German designers went to great lengths to make these designs. 1047 looked a lot like Scharnhorst on the outside, but on the inside there were changes made to the armour scheme. The Germans were not very keen on sharing details about the Scharnhorst-class armour scheme, so this was changed for the Dutch designs.

Project 1047 can be easily identified by the Scharnhorst style bridge, and superfiring secondairy turrets next to the bridge.

Type: Battlecruiser
BR: 7.0

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Displacement: 31,396 tons
Length: 241.20 m
Beam: 30.85 m
Draught: 7.8 m
Depth: 14 m

Propulsion: 180,000 SHP
Speed: 34 knots (63 km/h)

Armament:
3 x 3 283 mm L/54.5 Krupp guns
6 x 2 120 mm L/44 Bofors guns
7 x 2 40 mm Hazemeijer Bofors autocannons
8 x 1 20 mm Hispano 404 autocannons

Armour:
Main side belt: 225 mm inclined at 72° (on 50mm teak with 17mm shell plating)
Upper side belt: 40 mm inclined at 72°
Side belt forward: 30 mm tapering forward to 15 mm
Side belt aft: 30 mm upper, 60 mm lower
Longitudinal anti-torpedo bulkheads: 40 mm

Main armoured deck: 75 mm + 25 mm
Upper deck: 20 mm
Lower deck: 30 mm with 30 mm inclines
Transverse bulkheads: 30 mm + 15 mm secondary forward, 200mm tapering to 40 mm below main forward and aft

28cm barbette: 250-200 mm tapering to 40mm below
12cm barbette: 75 mm tapering to 60mm
Conning tower: 150 mm


Gunboat/Cruiser Line

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HNLMS Willem van der Zaan (1940)

Description: Willem van der Zaan was a minelayer made before WW2. When the war started she fled to Britain and re-grouped with other Dutch ships there. The ship was originally fitted with Dutch made 40mm Bofors Hazemeijer gun mounts. These gun mounts were very advanced at the time, so when the ship was in dock, the British took great interest. One of her two Hazemeijer gun mounts was removed and given to the British for futher testing. It later entered British service under the name Mark IV.
Suggestion topic: HNLMS Willem van der Zaan - Lots of mines

Type: Gunboat
BR: 3.3

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Displacement: 1,407 tons
Length: 70 m
Beam: 11.2 m
Draught: 3.28 m
Crew: 92

Propulsion: 4,400 HP, 2 Werkspoor Triple-expansion engines, 2 Yarrow boilers
Speed: 15.5 knots (28.7 km/h)

Armament:
2 x 1 120 mm Bofors No 7 cannons
1 x 4 40 mm Mark VII Pom-pom autocannons
2 x 2 12.7 mm Vickers machine guns
90 x Mines

Armour:
Belt: 8 mm
Deck: 5 mm

Conning Tower: 8 mm


HNLMS Van Kinsbergen (1939)

Description: Van Kinsbergen was a gunnery training/gunboat made before WW2. The ship changed quite a lot in weaponry and type. After the war she was armed with German 105mm guns and 40mm Bofors guns in single mounts. In this techtree we are adding her in her original proposal. I say proposal because her secondairy 40mm guns might not have been properly fitted, but the mounting points can clearly be seen on the photo above.
Suggestion topic: HNLMS Van Kinsbergen - Flying Dutchman

Type: Gunboat
BR: 3.7

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Displacement: 1,760 tons
Length: 100.2 m
Beam: 11.6 m
Draught: 3.4 m
Crew: 183

Propulsion: 3,400 HP, 2 Stork geared turbines and 2 Yarrow boilers
Speed: 25.5 knots (47.2 km/h)

Armament:
4 x 1 120 mm Bofors No 6 cannons
2 x 2 40 mm Hazemeijer Bofors autocannons
2 x 2 12.7 mm Vickers machine guns

Armour:
Belt: 13 mm
Deck: 20 mm

Conning Tower: 20 mm


K-class gunboat, HNLMS Van Speijk (F805 - 1953)

Description: The K-class gunboat was a class of armoured gunboat for the Dutch navy. Five ships were planned, but only three would end up being finished. These three were still under construction when Germany invaded the Netherlands, and so they were finished with Germany secondairy guns and then put into German service. One of these three is already present in the game right now, it’s the Kanonenboot K2.

After WW2 only one ship returned to Dutch service, that being K3. She was given the name Van Speijk, and at first still has the German 37mm turrets onboard. But at a later point these were swapped out for 40mm Bofors autocannons.

Type: Gunboat
BR: 4.0

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Displacement: 1,420 tons
Length: 77.9 m
Beam: 10.3 m
Draught: 3.4 m
Crew: 99

Propulsion: 3,500 HP
Speed: 18 knots (33.33 km/h)

Armament:
2 x 2 120 mm Bofors No 8 cannons
2 x 1 40 mm Bofors Mark 3 autocannons
6 x 1 20 mm Oerlikon autocannons

Armour:
Belt: 60 - 40 mm
Citadel: 50 mm
Deck: 20 mm
Barbettes: 60 mm

Conning Tower: 35 mm
Ammunition elevators: 35 mm


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Flores-class gunboat, HNLMS Soemba (1926)

Description: The Flores-class gunboats were a class of two gunboats built in the mid-1920s for the Royal Netherlands Navy. They were intended to patrol the Dutch East Indies. During World War II, they served in the Royal Netherlands Navy and they were in several ways the most successful surface ships of the Dutch navy during the war.
Suggestion topic: Dutch Flores-class gunboat, HNLMS Soemba

Type: Gunboat
BR: 4.0

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Displacement: 1,457 tons
Length: 75.6 m
Beam: 11.5 m
Draught: 3.6 m
Crew: 145

Propulsion: 2,000 HP, 2 Triple-expansion engines, 4 Yarrow boilers
Speed: 15 knots (27.8 km/h)

Armament:
3 x 1 150 mm Krupp No 7 cannons
1 x 1 75 mm No 6 cannon
2 x 1 12.7 mm Vickers No 4 machine guns

Armour:
Belt (Turtleback layout): 50 mm
Deck: 20 mm
Barbettes: 60 mm

Conning Tower: 25 mm
Ammunition elevators: 25 mm

150 mm turrets (Front - Sides - Rear - Roof): 80 - 20 - open - 15 mm


Flores-class gunboat, HNLMS Flores (1943)

Description: The Flores-class gunboats were a class of two gunboats built in the mid-1920s for the Royal Netherlands Navy. They were intended to patrol the Dutch East Indies. During World War II, they served in the Royal Netherlands Navy and they were in several ways the most successful surface ships of the Dutch navy during the war. Flores in this techtree is in a late war refit where she had lots of 20mm and 40mm guns added.
Suggestion topic: Dutch Flores-class gunboat, HNLMS Flores

Type: Gunboat
BR: 4.3

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Armour sheme of the Flores-class gunboat

Displacement: 1,793 tons
Length: 75.6 m
Beam: 11.5 m
Draught: 3.6 m
Crew: 145

Propulsion: 2,000 HP, 2 Triple-expansion engines, 4 Yarrow boilers
Speed: 15 knots (27.8 km/h)

Armament:
3 x 1 150 mm Krupp No 7 cannons
1 x 2 40 mm Bofors Mark IV autocannons
1 x 1 40 mm Pom-pom Mark VIII autocannon
4 x 1 20 mm Oerlikon autocannons
2 x 2 12.7 mm Vickers No 4 machine guns
2 x 1 12.7 mm Vickers No 4 machine guns

Armour:
Belt (Turtleback layout): 50 mm
Deck: 20 mm
Barbettes: 60 mm

Conning Tower: 25 mm
Ammunition elevators: 25 mm

150 mm turrets (Front - Sides - Rear - Roof): 80 - 20 - open - 15 mm


HNLMS Johan Maurits van Nassau (1932)

Description: HNLMS Johan Maurits van Nassau was a Dutch gunboat that served in the early part of World War II. She was the sole ship of her class, which was developed from the earlier Flores class.
Suggestion topic: The HNLMS Johan Maurits van Nassau - quite the story and name

Type: Gunboat
BR: 4.3

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Armour sheme of Johan Maurits van Nassau

Displacement: 1,795 tons
Length: 78.65 m
Beam: 11.6 m
Draught: 3.75 m
Crew: 124

Propulsion: 2,000 HP, 2 Triple-expansion engines, 4 Yarrow boilers
Speed: 15 knots (27.8 km/h)

Armament:
3 x 1 150 mm HIH Siderius No 8 cannons
1 x 2 40 mm Hazemeijer Bofors autocannons
2 x 2 12.7 mm Vickers No 4 machine guns

Armour:
Belt (Turtleback layout): 50 mm
Deck: 25 mm
Barbettes: 25 mm

Conning Tower: 25 mm
Ammunition elevators: 25 mm

150 mm turrets (Front - Sides - Rear - Roof): 40 - 20 - open - 25 mm


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Java-class cruiser, HNLMS Sumatra (1920)

Description: The Java class was a class of light cruisers of the Royal Netherlands Navy, with the lead ship named after the island of Java in the Dutch East Indies. They were designed in 1916, and by the time the ships were put in commision in 1926 the design was already outdated.

Type: Light Cruiser
BR: 4.7

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This blueprint is of Sumatra’s sister ship, Java. But the as laid down configuration of the two ships are the same.

Displacement: 8,339 tons
Length: 155.3 m
Beam: 16 m
Draught: 6.1 m
Crew: 525

Propulsion: 73,000 HP, 3-shaft Germania geared steam turbines, 8 Schultz-Thornycroft boilers
Speed: 31 knots (57 km/h)

Armament:
10 x 1 150 mm Bofors No 8 cannons
4 x 1 75 mm No 4 cannons

Armour:
Belt: 75 mm
Turtleback: 50 mm at 45°
Deck: 25 mm

Conning Tower: 125 mm

150 mm turrets (Front - Sides - Rear - Roof): 80 - 20 - open - 15 mm


Java-class cruiser, HNLMS Java (1937)

Description: The Java class was a class of light cruisers of the Royal Netherlands Navy, with the lead ship named after the island of Java in the Dutch East Indies. They were designed in 1916, and by the time the ships were put in commision in 1926 the design was already outdated.

HNLMS Java in this techtree is the 1937 refitted that added 40mm Bofors autocannons to the ship.

Type: Light Cruiser
BR: 5.0

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Displacement: 8,339 tons
Length: 155.3 m
Beam: 16 m
Draught: 6.1 m
Crew: 525

Propulsion: 73,000 HP, 3-shaft Germania geared steam turbines, 8 Schultz-Thornycroft boilers
Speed: 31 knots (57 km/h)

Armament:
10 x 1 150 mm Bofors No 8 cannons
4 x 2 40 mm Hazemeijer Bofors autocannons
6 x 1 12.7 mm Vickers machine guns

Armour:
Belt: 75 mm
Turtleback: 50 mm at 45°
Deck: 25 mm

Conning Tower: 125 mm

150 mm turrets (Front - Sides - Rear - Roof): 80 - 20 - open - 15 mm


HNLMS De Ruyter (1935)

Description: HNLMS De Ruyter was a light cruiser of the Royal Netherlands Navy. She was originally designed as a 5,000 long tons ship with a lighter armament due to financial problems and the pacifist movement. Later in the design stage, an extra gun turret was added and the armor was improved.

Type: Light Cruiser
BR: 5.0

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Displacement: 7,548 tons
Length: 170.9 m
Beam: 15.7 m
Draught: 5.1 m
Crew: 435

Propulsion: 66,000 HP, 3 × Parsons geared steam turbines, 6 × Yarrow boilers
Speed: 32 knots (59 km/h)

Armament:
3 x 2 150 mm Bofors No 9 cannons
1 x 1 150 mm Bofors No 10 cannons
5 x 2 40 mm Hazemeijer Bofors autocannons
4 x 2 12.7 mm Vickers machine guns

1 x 1 Aircraft catapult (Two aircraft carried)

Armour:
Belt: 50 mm
Citadel: 30 mm
Deck: 30 mm


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Eendracht-class cruiser, HNLMS Eendracht (1937 - project)

Description: The Eendracht-class was a class of light cruisers laid down just before WW2. Compared to the previous light cruisers the Dutch had made, the Eendracht-class was finally a step in the right direction. Having 10 centerline mounted 150mm gun, the ships would have had a powerfull punch. Also the armour was much improved compared to the previous light cruiser HNLMS De Ruyter.

Sadly due to the German invasion of the Netherlands the two ships that were under construction ended up getting captured by the Germans. The Germans had plans to finish the ships and use them for themselves, but at the end of the war both hulls were still under construction. After the war the hulls were returned to the Netherlands, and would continue to be finished as the De Zeven Provinciën-class cruiser.

Type: Light Cruiser
BR: 5.0

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Displacement: 10,795 tons
Length: 185.7 m
Beam: 17.25 m
Draught: 11.65 m

Propulsion: 78,000 HP, De Schelde-Parsons geared steam turbines
Speed: 32 knots (59 km/h)

Armament:
2 x 3 150 mm Bofors M42 cannons
2 x 2 150 mm Bofors M42 cannons
6 x 2 40 mm Hazemeijer Bofors autocannons
4 x 2 12.7 mm Vickers machine guns
2 x 3 533 mm torpedo tubes

2 x 1 Aircraft catapult

Armour:
Belt: 75 mm
Citadel: 30 mm
Deck: 20 mm
Barbettes: 75 mm

Forward Conning Tower: 30 mm
Aft Conning Tower: 15 mm
Ammunition elevators: 30 mm

150 mm turrets (Front - Sides - Rear - Roof): 125 - 30 - 75 - 50 mm


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Project 753 (1912 - blueprint)

Description: Dutch battleship design made by Krupp-Germania in 1912. This was the second design presented to the Dutch navy, it looks like a typical German battleship, just a little bit smaller. Overall it was a solid design, but it was not chosen and so more designs followed soon after.

Type: Battleship
BR: 6.3

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Displacement: 22,000 tons
Length: 174 m
Beam: 27 m
Draught: 8.032 m
Depth: 12.125 m

Propulsion: 39,451 HP, Two boiler rooms, six oil-fired boilers, One coul fired Yarrow boiler
Speed: 23 knots (42.59 km/h)

Armament:
4 x 2 343 mm L/50 guns (800 rounds of ammunition)
16 x 1 150 mm L/50 guns (2400 rounds of ammunition)
8 x 1 75 mm L/50 guns firing through ports in the bow and stern (1200 rounds of ammunition)
4 x 1 75 mm L/50 guns behind shields (1200 rounds of ammunition)
3 x 1 533 mm submerged torpedo tubes (Two side-launching, one stern launching)
Futher small caliber weapons would have most likely been added if the design was futher developed

Armour:
Belt: 100 - 250 - 80 mm (Aft - Middle - Fore)
Upper belt: 150 mm
Citadel: 300 - 200 mm
Splinterbulkhead: 25 - 15 mm
Torpedobulkheads: 40 mm

Traverses: 25 mm
Funnel casings: 40 mm
Upper Deck: 25 mm
Deck: 25 mm
Main deck: 25 mm
Barbettes: 300 - 150 - 100 - 40 mm
Casemates front: 150 mm
Forward Conning Tower: 350 - 250 - 200 mm
Aft Conning Tower: 200 mm
Range finding positions: 400 mm

343 mm turrets: 300 - 220 - 300 - 100 (Face - Sides - Rear - Horizontal roof)
150 mm gun shields: 100 mm
75 mm gun shields: 50 mm


Project 806 (1914 - blueprint)

Description: Dutch battleship design made by Krupp in 1914. This was actually the last design Krupp submitted, and it’s also seen as the final product the Dutch would have chosen. Unlike the Vickers and Blohm & Voss designs, the 806 has longer main guns, giving slightly better penetration performance. The reason this design was never made was because of the outbreak of the First World war. Had that war not happend then the Dutch navy would have most likely had these in their fleet.

Type: Battleship
BR: 6.7

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Displacement: 27,282 tons
Length: 184 m
Beam: 28 m
Draught: 9.03 m
Depth: 13 m

Propulsion: 38,000 SHP Oil-fired Yarrow Watertube Boilers
Speed: 22 knots (40.7 km/h)

Armament:
4 x 2 356 mm L/50 Krupp guns (800 rounds of ammunition)
16 x 1 152 mm guns (1800 rounds of ammunition)
8 x 1 76.2 mm guns in LA mounts (1200 rounds of ammunition)
4 x 1 76.2 mm guns in HA mounts (1200 rounds of ammunition)
Unclear ammount of broadside torpedo tubes
1 x 1 533 mm stern Torpedo tube
Futher small caliber weapons would have most likely been added if the design was futher developed

Armour:
Belt: 150 - 250 - 150 mm (Aft - Middle - Fore)
Upper belt: 180 mm
Fore bulkheads: 200 mm
Aft bulkheads: 200 mm
Splinterbulkhead: 20 mm
Back bulkheads: 15 mm
Torpedobulkheads: 40 mm

Traverses: 20 mm
Top Deck: 25 mm
Deck: 25 mm
Armoured deck: 50 - 25 - 50 mm
Barbettes: 300 - 120 - 110 mm
Casemates front: 180 mm
Fore Conning Tower: 300 - 200 mm
Aft Conning Tower: 300 mm


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Project 323 (1940 - blueprint)

Description: Dutch version of the German Scharnhorst-class. This was designed just before the second world war, and German designers went to great lengths to make these designs. 323 looked a bit like Scharnhorst on the outside, but on the inside there were changes made to the armour scheme. The Germans were not very keen on sharing details about the Scharnhorst-class armour scheme, so this was changed for the Dutch designs.

Project 323 can be easily identified by the Dutch style bridge (The same bridge HNLMS De Ruyter (1935) had), and the spread out secondairy turrets on the side of the ship.

Type: Battlecruiser
BR: 7.0

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Displacement: 33,200 tons
Length: 235 m
Beam: 29.2 m
Draught: 7.9 m
Depth: 14 m

Propulsion: 180,000 SHP
Speed: 34 knots (63 km/h)

Armament:
3 x 3 283 mm L/54.5 Krupp guns (1350 rounds of ammunition)
6 x 2 120 mm L/44 Bofors guns (2400 rounds of ammunition)
8 x 2 40 mm Hazemeijer Bofors autocannons (16000 rounds of ammunition)
7 x 2 13 mm machine guns

1 x 1 Aircraft catapult

Armour:
Main side belt: 250 mm tapering to 60mm forward and aft
Longitudinal bulkheads: 40 mm
Citadel main transverse bulkheads: 225 mm forward and aft
Citadel secondary transverse bulkheads: 40 mm below 40 mm armoured deck
Main armoured deck: 150 mm
Splinter deck: 40 mm

28cm barbettes: 250 mm above main armoured deck, 80 mm between main armoured deck
12cm barbettes: 100 mm


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Holland-class protected cruiser, HNLMS Zeeland (1898)

Description: The Holland class was a class of six protected cruisers of the Royal Netherlands Navy. The class was built in two groups, each consisting of three ships. The first three ships were slightly smaller then the last three. The design was based on the British Apollo-class cruiser, although it featured the more seaworthy form amidships.

HNLMS Zeeland was one of the first three ships made of this class. I am aware that this ship is very old from an ingame point of view, but it’s armament is actually quite alright and would be pretty fun ingame.

Type: Protected Cruiser
BR: 4.3

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Displacement: 3,900 tons
Length: 93.3 m
Beam: 14.8 m
Draught: 5.41 m
Crew: 324

Propulsion: 10,000 HP
Speed: 20 knots (37 km/h)

Armament:
2 x 1 150 mm Krupp No 3 cannons
6 x 1 120 mm Krupp No 2 cannons
4 x 1 75 mm Krupp No 2 cannons
4 x 1 37 mm five barrel Hotchkiss revolving guns
6 x 1 37 mm Hotchkiss guns
2 x 1 450 mm torpedo tubes (One fore and one aft)

Armour:
Deck: 50 mm
Citadel side: 125 mm at 68°


Holland-class protected cruiser, HNLMS Noord-Brabant (1916)

Description: The Holland class was a class of six protected cruisers of the Royal Netherlands Navy. The class was built in two groups, each consisting of three ships. The first three ships were slightly smaller then the last three. The design was based on the British Apollo-class cruiser, although it featured the more seaworthy form amidships.

HNLMS Noord-Brabant was one of the last three ships made of this class. She is being suggested in her 1916 refit where the 150mm guns were swapped for 120mm onces.

Type: Protected Cruiser
BR: 4.3

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Displacement: 4,033 tons
Length: 94.7 m
Beam: 14.8 m
Draught: 5.41 m
Crew: 324

Propulsion: 10,000 HP
Speed: 20 knots (37 km/h)

Armament:
8 x 1 120 mm Krupp No 2 cannons
4 x 1 75 mm Krupp No 2 cannons
4 x 1 450 mm torpedo tubes (One on each side, one fore and one aft)

Armour:
Deck: 50 mm
Citadel side: 125 mm at 68°


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Koningin Regentes-class armored cruiser, HNLMS Hertog Hendrik (1937)

Description: The Koningin Regentes-class was a class of three “armoured cruisers” for the Dutch navy. I say “armoured cruisers” because they are actually a class of their own. Called “Pantserschip”, litterally meaning “Armoured Ship”, they are not exactly armoured cruisers, but they get pretty close to it although being much smaller then armoured cruisers other navies would built.

Online the Dutch Pantserschepen are called coastal defense ships,
but that is actually a bit wrong. 
Coastal defense ships are known for not being able to really go into open seas,
they are only meant for coastal areas. 
But Dutch Pantserschepen are completely ocean going ships,
so calling them Coastal defense ships doesn't do them much justice.

HNLMS Hertog Hendrik in her 1937 refit as seen here is a very odd one. One of her two main turrets has been removed and in it’s place an anti-air deck has been added. Leaving the ship with pretty good secondairy guns, but only a single main gun. Sort of a armoured cruiser/monitor hybrid.

Type: Armoured Cruiser
BR: 4.7

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The blueprint above shows the ship during her short lived aircraft carrying phase

Displacement: 4,900 tons
Length: 96.622 m
Beam: 15.189 m
Draught: 5.817 m
Crew: 340

Propulsion: 6,500 HP
Speed: 16.5 knots (30.6 km/h)

Armament:
1 x 1 240 mm Krupp No 1 cannons (30 second reload rate)
4 x 1 150 mm Krupp No 4 cannons
8 x 1 75 mm Krupp No 3 cannons
4 x 1 40 mm No. 1 autocannons (Pom-poms)
1 x 1 6.5 mm Schwarzlose machine gun

Armour:
Belt: 150 mm
Deck: 50 mm
Citadel side: 105 mm at 45°

Main gun barbette: 250 mm
240mm turret: 250 mm


Koningin Regentes-class armored cruiser, HNLMS Koningin Regentes (1900)

Description: The Koningin Regentes-class was a class of three “armoured cruisers” for the Dutch navy. I say “armoured cruisers” because they are actually a class of their own. Called “Pantserschip”, litterally meaning “Armoured Ship”, they are not exactly armoured cruisers, but they get pretty close to it although being much smaller then armoured cruisers other navies would built.

Online the Dutch Pantserschepen are called coastal defense ships,
but that is actually a bit wrong. 
Coastal defense ships are known for not being able to really go into open seas,
they are only meant for coastal areas. 
But Dutch Pantserschepen are completely ocean going ships,
so calling them Coastal defense ships doesn't do them much justice.

Type: Armoured Cruiser
BR: 5.0

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Displacement: 5,002 tons
Length: 96.622 m
Beam: 15.189 m
Draught: 5.817 m
Crew: 340

Propulsion: 6,500 HP
Speed: 16.5 knots (30.6 km/h)

Armament:
2 x 1 240 mm Krupp No 1 cannons (30 second reload rate)
4 x 1 150 mm Krupp No 4 cannons
8 x 1 75 mm Krupp No 3 cannons
4 x 1 37 mm Hotchkiss guns
3 x 1 450 mm torpedo tubes (One fore and one on each side, firing forwards at an angle)

Armour:
Belt: 150 mm
Deck: 50 mm
Citadel side: 105 mm at 45°

Main gun barbette: 250 mm
240mm turret: 250 mm


HNLMS Jacob van Heemskerck (1925)

Description: Jacob van Heemskerck was an “armoured cruiser” for the Dutch navy. I say “armoured cruiser” because she was actually a class of her own. Called “Pantserschip”, litterally meaning “Armoured Ship”, they are not exactly armoured cruisers, but they get pretty close to it although being much smaller then armoured cruisers other navies would built.

Online the Dutch Pantserschepen are called coastal defense ships,
but that is actually a bit wrong. 
Coastal defense ships are known for not being able to really go into open seas,
they are only meant for coastal areas. 
But Dutch Pantserschepen are completely ocean going ships,
so calling them Coastal defense ships doesn't do them much justice.

HNLMS Jacob van Heemskerck was a unique armoured cruiser, having a more modernized design then the ships that came before her. In this techtree is being suggested in her 1925 refit. This refit didn’t see many cahnges, only the addition of two small machine guns and the removal of the older 37mm Hotchkiss guns.

Type: Armoured Cruiser
BR: 5.3

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Displacement: 4,920 tons
Length: 98 m
Beam: 15.19 m
Draught: 5.69 m
Crew: 340

Propulsion: 6,400 HP
Speed: 16.5 knots (30.6 km/h)

Armament:
2 x 1 240 mm Krupp No 2 cannons (20 second reload rate)
6 x 1 150 mm Krupp No 4 cannons
6 x 1 75 mm Krupp No 3 cannons
2 x 1 6.5 mm Schwarzlose machine gun
2 x 1 450 mm torpedo tubes (Both aft, side by side, firing forwards)

Armour:
Belt: 150 mm
Deck: 50 mm
Citadel side: 105 mm at 45°

Main gun barbette: 250 mm
240mm turret: 250 mm


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HNLMS De Zeven Provinciën (1909)

Description: De Zeven Provinciën was an “armoured cruiser” for the Dutch navy. I say “armoured cruiser” because she was actually a class of her own. Called “Pantserschip”, litterally meaning “Armoured Ship”, they are not exactly armoured cruisers, but they get pretty close to it although being much smaller then armoured cruisers other navies would built.

Online the Dutch Pantserschepen are called coastal defense ships,
but that is actually a bit wrong. 
Coastal defense ships are known for not being able to really go into open seas,
they are only meant for coastal areas. 
But Dutch Pantserschepen are completely ocean going ships,
so calling them Coastal defense ships doesn't do them much justice.

HNLMS De Zeven Provinciën was the last Armoured Cruiser the Dutch made, and she was also the biggest. Her design was sadly not the more advanced one seen on the Jacob van Heemskerck, but instead she looked more like the older Armoured Cruisers the Dutch navy had.

Type: Armoured Cruiser
BR: 5.3

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Displacement: 6,530 tons
Length: 101.5 m
Beam: 17.1 m
Draught: 6.15 m
Crew: 452

Propulsion: 8,000 HP
Speed: 16 knots (30 km/h)

Armament:
2 x 1 280 mm Krupp No 3 cannons (30 second reload rate)
4 x 1 150 mm Krupp No 5 cannons
10 x 1 75 mm Krupp No 1 cannons

Armour:
Belt: 150 mm
Deck: 50 mm
Citadel side: 105 mm at 45°

Main gun barbette: 250 mm above deck, 180 mm below deck
**280mm turret (Front - Sides - Rear - Roof): ? - 140 - ? - 60 mm


HNLMS Soerabaja (1936)

Description: De Zeven Provinciën was an “armoured cruiser” for the Dutch navy. I say “armoured cruiser” because she was actually a class of her own. Called “Pantserschip”, litterally meaning “Armoured Ship”, they are not exactly armoured cruisers, but they get pretty close to it although being much smaller then armoured cruisers other navies would built.

Online the Dutch Pantserschepen are called coastal defense ships,
but that is actually a bit wrong. 
Coastal defense ships are known for not being able to really go into open seas,
they are only meant for coastal areas. 
But Dutch Pantserschepen are completely ocean going ships,
so calling them Coastal defense ships doesn't do them much justice.

HNLMS De Zeven Provinciën was the last Armoured Cruiser the Dutch made, and she was also the biggest. Her design was sadly not the more advanced one seen on the Jacob van Heemskerck, but instead she looked more like the older Armoured Cruisers the Dutch navy had.

Type: Armoured Cruiser
BR: 5.3

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Armour sheme of Soerabaja, when she was still named De Zeven Provinciën (1909)

Displacement: 6,530 tons
Length: 101.5 m
Beam: 17.1 m
Draught: 6.15 m
Crew: 452

Propulsion: 8,000 HP
Speed: 16 knots (30 km/h)

Armament:
2 x 1 280 mm Krupp No 3 cannons (30 second reload rate)
2 x 1 150 mm Krupp No 5 cannons
2 x 1 75 mm Krupp No 1 cannons
6 x 1 40 mm No. 1 autocannons (Pom-poms)

Armour:
Belt: 150 mm
Deck: 50 mm
Citadel side: 105 mm at 45°

Main gun barbette: 250 mm above deck, 180 mm below deck
**280mm turret (Front - Sides - Rear - Roof): ? - 140 - ? - 60 mm


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Project 772 (1913 - blueprint)

Description: Dutch battleship design made by Krupp-Germania in 1913. This was an attempt to make the smallest possible ship that would still fit the requested demands. Overall it’s a very unique design, and seeing how the Dutch Navy loves budget cuts, a small budget sized battleships doesn’t sound so odd for the Dutch Navy.

Type: Battleship
BR: 6.3

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Displacement: 20,700 tons
Length: 169.2 m
Beam: 27 m
Draught: 8.032 m
Depth: 12.125 m

Propulsion: 39,451 HP, Two boiler rooms, six oil-fired boilers, One coul fired Yarrow boiler
Speed: 23 knots (42.59 km/h)

Armament:
2 x 4 343 mm L/45 guns (800 rounds of ammunition)
16 x 1 150 mm L/50 guns (2400 rounds of ammunition)
6 x 1 75 mm L/50 anti-balloon guns (1200 rounds of ammunition)
6 x 1 75 mm L/50 guns behind shields (1200 rounds of ammunition)
3 x 1 533 mm submerged torpedo tubes (Two side-launching, one stern launching)
Futher small caliber weapons would have most likely been added if the design was futher developed

Armour:
Belt: 100 - 250 - 80 mm (Aft - Middle - Fore)
Upper belt: 150 mm
Citadel: 300 - 200 mm
Splinterbulkhead: 25 - 15 mm
Torpedobulkheads: 40 mm

Traverses: 25 mm
Funnel casings: 40 mm
Upper Deck: 25 mm
Deck: 25 mm
Main deck: 25 mm
Barbettes: 300 - 150 - 100 - 40 mm
Casemates front: 150 mm
Forward Conning Tower: 350 - 250 - 200 mm
Aft Conning Tower: 200 mm
Range finding positions: 400 mm

343 mm turrets: 300 - 220 - 525 - 100 (Face - Sides - Rear - Horizontal roof)
150 mm gun shields: 100 mm
75 mm gun shields: 50 mm


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“Holland-Schlachtschiff” (1939 - blueprint)

Description: Dutch preliminary version of the German Scharnhorst-class. This was designed just before the second world war, and German designers went to great lengths to make these designs. “Holland-Schlachtschiff” was one of the earliest designs made for the Dutch. The main things to note with this design is the smaller 120mm secondairy weaponry turret. Instead of the six twin turrets seen on Project 1047 and 323, the “Holland-Schlachtschiff” has only four twin turrets. Lastly the small caliber weaponry proposed was twenty twin 12.7mm turrets for some reason.

Type: Battlecruiser
BR: 7.0

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Displacement: 33,000 tons
Length: 227 m
Beam: 30 m
Draught: 8 m
Depth: 14 m

Propulsion: 172,000 SHP, 4 x high pressure turbine sets
Speed: 33 knots (61 km/h)

Armament:
3 x 3 283 mm L/54.5 Krupp guns (1080 rounds of ammunition)
4 x 2 120 mm L/44 Bofors guns (1600 rounds of ammunition)
8 x 2 40 mm Hazemeijer Bofors autocannons (14000 rounds of ammunition)
20 x 2 12.7 mm machine guns (30000 rounds of ammunition)

Armour:
Vertical side belt: 225 mm
Side aft: 60 mm
Side forward: 30 mm
Citadel: 60 mm

Longitudinal side bulkheads: 30 mm and 20 mm
Citadel longitudinal bulkhead: 15 mm
Horizontal main deck: 100 mm and 125 mm
Upper deck: 30 mm and 20 mm
Artillery 28cm barbette: 170 mm and 225 mm

28cm turrets

  • Front: 300 mm
  • Forward incline: 200 mm
  • Roof: 150 mm
  • Sides: 100 mm
  • Back: P.M.
  • Barbette: 250 mm

12cm turrets

  • Front: 80 mm
  • Roof: 150 mm
  • Sides: 50 mm
  • Back: P.M.

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Wolf-class destroyer, HNLMS Lynx (1913)

Description: Dutch Destroyer of the 1910’s.

Type: Destroyer
BR: 3.3

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Displacement: 510 tons
Length: 70.5 m
Beam: 6.6 m
Draught: 2.8 m
Crew: 64

Propulsion: 8,500 HP, 2 × Krupp-Germania steam turbines
Speed: 30 knots (55.56 km/h)

Armament:
4 x 1 75 mm cannons
4 x 1 7.92 mm machine guns
2 x 1 450 mm torpedo tubes (Whitehead torpedoes)

Armour:
Nothing worth mentioning


Admiralen-class destroyer, HNLMS Van Nes (VN - 1931)

Description: The Admiralen-class were eight destroyers built for the Royal Netherlands Navy between 1926 and 1931. HNLMS Van Nes was part of the third batch of two ships built of this class. Unlike the first batch, this third batch has four anti-air autocannons onboard.
Suggestion topic: Dutch Admiralen-class destroyer (3rd Batch), HNLMS Van Nes

Type: Destroyer
BR: 4.0

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Displacement: 1.680 tons
Length: 98.15 m
Beam: 9.45 m
Draught: 3 m
Crew: 149

Propulsion: 31,000 HP, 2 x Parson turbines, 3 x 3-drum Yarrow waterpipeboilers
Speed: 36 knots (66.67 km/h)

Armament:
4 x 1 120 mm No. 5 cannons
1 x 1 75 mm No. 8 cannon
4 x 1 40 mm No. 1 autocannons (Pom-poms)
4 x 1 12.7 mm Browning machine guns
2 x 3 533 mm torpedo tubes (Whitehead Type II torpedoes)
4 x 1 Depth charge throwers, with 12 depth charges total
2 x 1 mine lauching rails, with 24 Vickers mines total

1 x 1 Aircraft catapult, with the Van Berkel W-A floatplane carried. (Max speed 135 km/h, 1 x 7.92 mm Lewis machine gun in a gunner position)

Armour:
Nothing worth mentioning


Rank 2

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N-class destroyer, HNLMS Tjerk Hiddes (G16 - 1942)

Description: One of the few British destroyers put into Dutch service just after the second world war.

Type: Destroyer
BR: 4.3

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Displacement: 2.384 tons
Length: 108.7 m
Beam: 10.9 m
Draught: 3.8 m
Crew: 183

Propulsion: 40,000 HP, 2 × Admiralty, 3-drum boilers
Speed: 36 knots (66.67 km/h)

Armament:
3 x 2 120 mm Mk XII cannons
1 x 4 40 mm Mark VII Pom-pom autocannons
2 x 2 20 mm Oerlikon Mark V autocannons
2 x 1 20 mm Oerlikon Mark 10 autocannons
2 x 4 533 mm torpedo tubes

Armour:
Nothing worth mentioning


Holland-class destroyer, HNLMS Holland (D808 - 1950)

Description: The Holland-class destroyer was a class of destroyers built during the 1950’s.

Type: Destroyer
BR: 4.7

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Displacement: 2,600 tons
Length: 113.1 m
Beam: 11.4 m
Draught: 5.1 m
Crew: 247

Propulsion: 45,000 HP
Speed: 32 knots (59 km/h)

Armament:
2 x 2 120 mm Bofors No 10 cannons
1 x 1 40 mm Bofors No 6 autocannons
2 x 4 375 mm Bofors anti-submarine rocket launchers

Armour:
Nothing worth mentioning


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HNLMS Marten Harpertszoon Tromp (1904)

Description: Marten Harpertszoon Tromp (Or just Tromp to keep it simple) was an “armoured cruiser” for the Dutch navy. I say “armoured cruiser” because she was actually a class of her own. Called “Pantserschip”, litterally meaning “Armoured Ship”, they are not exactly armoured cruisers, but they get pretty close to it although being much smaller then armoured cruisers other navies would built.

Online the Dutch Pantserschepen are called coastal defense ships,
but that is actually a bit wrong. 
Coastal defense ships are known for not being able to really go into open seas,
they are only meant for coastal areas. 
But Dutch Pantserschepen are completely ocean going ships,
so calling them Coastal defense ships doesn't do them much justice.

HNLMS Marten Harpertszoon Tromp was a unique armoured cruiser, but still based on the previous Koningin Regentes-class. Compared to the previous class, Tromp had improved main guns with a higher rate of fire, and the fore torpedo tube has been moved on the aft and put on a swivel.

Type: Armoured Cruiser
BR: 5.0

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Displacement: 5,210 tons
Length: 100.78 m
Beam: 15.19 m
Draught: 5.69 m
Crew: 340

Propulsion: 6,400 HP
Speed: 16.5 knots (30.6 km/h)

Armament:
2 x 1 240 mm Krupp No 2 cannons (20 second reload rate)
4 x 1 150 mm Krupp No 4 cannons
8 x 1 75 mm Krupp No 3 cannons
4 x 1 37 mm Hotchkiss guns
3 x 1 450 mm torpedo tubes (One aft and one on each side, firing forwards at an angle)

Armour:
Belt: 150 mm
Deck: 50 mm
Citadel side: 105 mm at 45°

Main gun barbette: 250 mm
240mm turret: 250 mm


Java-class cruiser, HNLMS Sumatra (1942)

Description: The Java class was a class of light cruisers of the Royal Netherlands Navy, with the lead ship named after the island of Java in the Dutch East Indies. They were designed in 1916, and by the time the ships were put in commision in 1926 the design was already outdated.

This is HNLMS Sumatra in her short lived WW2 refit. The ship mainly had some 20mm guns added. More additions were planned, such as 40mm Bofors autocannons, but sadly the ship had been chosen to be used as a blockship, and so she was taken out of service and sunk before all the refit plans were carried out.

Type: Light Cruiser
BR: 4.7

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Displacement: 8,339 tons
Length: 155.3 m
Beam: 16 m
Draught: 6.1 m
Crew: 525

Propulsion: 73,000 HP, 3-shaft Germania geared steam turbines, 8 Schultz-Thornycroft boilers
Speed: 31 knots (57 km/h)

Armament:
10 x 1 150 mm Bofors No 8 cannons
6 x 1 40 mm No. 1 autocannons (Pom-poms)
6 x 1 20 mm Oerlikon Mark 10 autocannons
4 x 1 12.7 mm Vickers machine guns

Armour:
Belt: 75 mm
Turtleback: 50 mm at 45°
Deck: 25 mm

Conning Tower: 125 mm

150 mm turrets (Front - Sides - Rear - Roof): 80 - 20 - open - 15 mm


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Eendracht-class cruiser, HNLMS De Zeven Provinciën (1937 - project)


This photo is of the sister ship “Eendracht” while she was under construction. Pre-war photos of the hull of “De Zeven Provinciën” sadly don’t exist.

Description: The Eendracht-class was a class of light cruisers laid down just before WW2. Compared to the previous light cruisers the Dutch had made, the Eendracht-class was finally a step in the right direction. Having 10 centerline mounted 150mm gun, the ships would have had a powerfull punch. Also the armour was much improved compared to the previous light cruiser HNLMS De Ruyter.

Sadly due to the German invasion of the Netherlands the two ships that were under construction ended up getting captured by the Germans. The Germans had plans to finish the ships and use them for themselves, but at the end of the war both hulls were still under construction. After the war the hulls were returned to the Netherlands, and would continue to be finished as the De Zeven Provinciën-class cruiser.

Type: Light Cruiser
BR: 5.0

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Displacement: 10,795 tons
Length: 185.7 m
Beam: 17.25 m
Draught: 11.65 m

Propulsion: 78,000 HP, De Schelde-Parsons geared steam turbines
Speed: 32 knots (59 km/h)

Armament:
2 x 3 150 mm Bofors M42 cannons
2 x 2 150 mm Bofors M42 cannons
6 x 2 40 mm Hazemeijer Bofors autocannons
4 x 2 12.7 mm Vickers machine guns
2 x 3 533 mm torpedo tubes

2 x 1 Aircraft catapult

Armour:
Belt: 75 mm
Citadel: 30 mm
Deck: 20 mm
Barbettes: 75 mm

Forward Conning Tower: 30 mm
Aft Conning Tower: 15 mm
Ammunition elevators: 30 mm

150 mm turrets (Front - Sides - Rear - Roof): 125 - 30 - 75 - 50 mm


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Project 694 (1914 - blueprint)

Description: Dutch battleship design made by Vickers in 1914. Being designed by Vickers, this battleship followed a usual British design. Vickers proposed it with British guns, but knowing the Dutch were big fans of German guns they also made sure to include Germans guns as a possible option for their proposals, but the larger Krupp ammunition would limit the number of side mounted torpedo tubes. The Project 694’s main feature was that it had two smoke funnels. The other Vickers proposal (The Project 695) had only a single funnel.

Type: Battleship
BR: 6.7

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Displacement: 28,485 tons
Length: 179 m
Beam: 27.7 m
Draught: 9.51 m
Depth: 13.3 m

Propulsion: 34,000 SHP Oil-fired Yarrow Watertube Boilers
Speed: 22 knots (40.7 km/h)

Armament (With Vickers guns):
4 x 2 356 mm L/45 Vickers guns (640 rounds of ammunition)
16 x 1 152 mm guns (1800 rounds of ammunition)
8 x 1 76.2 mm guns in HA mounts (1200 rounds of ammunition)
4 x 1 76.2 mm guns in LA mounts (1200 rounds of ammunition)
12 x 1 533 mm Torpedo tubes (Six per side)
1 x 1 533 mm stern Torpedo tube could be arranged
Futher small caliber weapons would have most likely been added if the design was futher developed

Armament (With Krupp guns):
4 x 2 356 mm L/45 Krupp guns (640 rounds of ammunition)
16 x 1 152 mm guns (1800 rounds of ammunition)
8 x 1 76.2 mm guns in HA mounts (1200 rounds of ammunition)
4 x 1 76.2 mm guns in LA mounts (1200 rounds of ammunition)
6 x 1 533 mm Torpedo tubes (Six per side)
1 x 1 533 mm stern Torpedo tube could be arranged
Futher small caliber weapons would have most likely been added if the design was futher developed

Armour:
Belt: 250
Upper belt: 180 mm
Fore bulkheads: 100 mm
Aft bulkheads: 150 mm
Back bulkheads: 12.5 mm
Torpedobulkheads: 37 mm

Traverses: 25 mm
Top Deck: 37 mm
Deck: 37 mm
Armoured deck: 25 mm
Barbettes: 300 - 120 - 50 mm
Casemates front: 180 mm
Fore Conning Tower: 300 - 150 mm
Aft Conning Tower: 150 mm


Project 733B (1914 - blueprint)


This photo if of the 733A. I was not able to find any sketches/blueprints of the 733B

Description: Dutch battleship design made by Blohm & Voss in 1914. There were three 733 designs made. Supposedly Blohm & Voss was testing with different armour layouts. So my best guess is that each of the three designs tested new ideas. This 733B is the second of the three designs.

Type: Battleship
BR: 6.7

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Displacement: 24,900 tons
Length: 172.8 m
Beam: 29 m
Draught: 8.74 m
Depth: 14.4 m

Propulsion: 38,000 SHP Oil-fired Yarrow Watertube Boilers, One funnel, four propeller shafts
Speed: 22 knots (40.7 km/h)

Armament:
4 x 2 356 mm L/45 Krupp guns (800 rounds of ammunition)
16 x 1 152 mm guns (1800 rounds of ammunition)
6 x 1 76.2 mm guns in HA mounts (1200 rounds of ammunition)
6 x 1 76.2 mm guns in LA mounts (1200 rounds of ammunition)
Unclear ammount of broadside torpedo tubes
1 x 1 533 mm stern Torpedo tube
Futher small caliber weapons would have most likely been added if the design was futher developed

Armour:
**Belt: 100 - 250 - 150 mm (Aft - Middle - Fore)
Upper belt: 180 mm
Splinterbulkhead: 50 mm
Back bulkheads: 25 mm
Torpedobulkheads: 30 mm

Traverses: 25 mm
Top Deck: 37 mm
Deck: 25 mm
Armoured deck: 30 mm slope, 12.5 mm flat
Barbettes: 300 - 75 mm
Casemates front: 180 mm


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G-class destroyer, HNLMS Marnix (F801 - 1956)

Description: One of the few British destroyers put into Dutch service just after the second world war. Marnix actually started it’s carreer as HMS Garland, and would be put into Polish service as ORP Garland in 1940. After the second world war she was given to the Dutch. The name Marnix was given in 1950, and the ship was stripped of most of her guns. Two 105mm German guns were added, together with a hedgehog mortar system.

Type: Destroyer
BR: 3.3

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Displacement: 1.550 tons
Length: 98.5 m
Beam: 10.1 m
Draught: 3.8 m
Crew: 137

Propulsion: 34,000 HP, 3 Admiralty, 3-drum boilers
Speed: 36 knots (66.67 km/h)

Armament:
2 x 1 105 mm No 3 cannons
6 x 1 20 mm Oerlikon Mark 10 autocannons
1 x 24 178 mm hedgehog mortar

Armour:
Nothing worth mentioning


Rank 2

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Gerard Callenburgh-class destroyer, HNLMS Philips van Almonde (1938 - project)

Description: Philips van Almonde was part of a class of four destroyers ordered for the Royal Netherlands Navy just before World War II. Only two out of the four ships were launched in the end, one under Dutch service and one under German service after they captured it. HNLMS Philips van Almonde was one of the two ships that were not launched. However the hull was laid down and construction was going well untill Germany invaded. In order to avoid capture the hull was destroyed.

Type: Destroyer
BR: 4.3

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Displacement: 2,228 tons
Length: 107 m
Beam: 10.6 m
Draught: 2.8 m
Crew: 158

Propulsion: 45,000 HP, 2 shaft, Parsons geared turbines, 3 Yarrow type boilers
Speed: 37.5 knots (69.5 km/h)

Armament:
2 x 2 120 mm Wilton-Fijenoord No. 8 cannons
1 x 1 120 mm Wilton-Fijenoord No. 8 cannon
2 x 2 40 mm Hazemeijer Bofors autocannons
4 x 1 12.7 mm Vickers machine guns
2 x 4 533 mm torpedo tubes

1 x 1 Aircraft catapult

Armour:
Nothing worth mentioning


Rank 3

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Koningin Regentes-class armored cruiser, HNLMS De Ruyter (1901)

Description: The Koningin Regentes-class was a class of three “armoured cruisers” for the Dutch navy. I say “armoured cruisers” because they are actually a class of their own. Called “Pantserschip”, litterally meaning “Armoured Ship”, they are not exactly armoured cruisers, but they get pretty close to it although being much smaller then armoured cruisers other navies would built.

Online the Dutch Pantserschepen are called coastal defense ships,
but that is actually a bit wrong. 
Coastal defense ships are known for not being able to really go into open seas,
they are only meant for coastal areas. 
But Dutch Pantserschepen are completely ocean going ships,
so calling them Coastal defense ships doesn't do them much justice.

Type: Armoured Cruiser
BR: 5.0

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Displacement: 5,002 tons
Length: 96.622 m
Beam: 15.189 m
Draught: 5.817 m
Crew: 340

Propulsion: 6,500 HP
Speed: 16.5 knots (30.6 km/h)

Armament:
2 x 1 240 mm Krupp No 1 cannons (30 second reload rate)
4 x 1 150 mm Krupp No 4 cannons
8 x 1 75 mm Krupp No 3 cannons
4 x 1 37 mm Hotchkiss guns
3 x 1 450 mm torpedo tubes (One fore and one on each side, firing forwards at an angle)

Armour:
Belt: 150 mm
Deck: 50 mm
Citadel side: 105 mm at 45°

Main gun barbette: 250 mm
240mm turret: 250 mm


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Project 695 (1914 - blueprint)


This photo if of the 694. I was not able to find any sketches/blueprints of the 695

Description: Dutch battleship design made by Vickers in 1914. Being designed by Vickers, this battleship followed a usual British design. Vickers proposed it with British guns, but knowing the Dutch were big fans of German guns they also made sure to include Germans guns as a possible option for their proposals, but the larger Krupp ammunition would limit the number of side mounted torpedo tubes. The Project 695’s main feature was that it had a single smoke funnel. The other Vickers proposal (The Project 694) had two funnels.

Type: Battleship
BR: 6.7

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Displacement: 28,485 tons
Length: 179 m
Beam: 27.7 m
Draught: 9.51 m
Depth: 13.3 m

Propulsion: 34,000 SHP Oil-fired Yarrow Watertube Boilers
Speed: 22 knots (40.7 km/h)

Armament (With Vickers guns):
4 x 2 356 mm L/45 Vickers guns (640 rounds of ammunition)
16 x 1 152 mm guns (1800 rounds of ammunition)
8 x 1 76.2 mm guns in HA mounts (1200 rounds of ammunition)
4 x 1 76.2 mm guns in LA mounts (1200 rounds of ammunition)
12 x 1 533 mm Torpedo tubes (Six per side)
1 x 1 533 mm stern Torpedo tube could be arranged
Futher small caliber weapons would have most likely been added if the design was futher developed

Armament (With Krupp guns):
4 x 2 356 mm L/45 Krupp guns (640 rounds of ammunition)
16 x 1 152 mm guns (1800 rounds of ammunition)
8 x 1 76.2 mm guns in HA mounts (1200 rounds of ammunition)
4 x 1 76.2 mm guns in LA mounts (1200 rounds of ammunition)
6 x 1 533 mm Torpedo tubes (Six per side)
1 x 1 533 mm stern Torpedo tube could be arranged
Futher small caliber weapons would have most likely been added if the design was futher developed

Armour:
Belt: 250
Upper belt: 180 mm
Fore bulkheads: 100 mm
Aft bulkheads: 150 mm
Back bulkheads: 12.5 mm
Torpedobulkheads: 37 mm

Traverses: 25 mm
Top Deck: 37 mm
Deck: 37 mm
Armoured deck: 25 mm
Barbettes: 300 - 120 - 50 mm
Casemates front: 180 mm
Fore Conning Tower: 300 - 150 mm
Aft Conning Tower: 150 mm


That is it! The BeNeLux Bluewater Fleet Techtree in it’s entire glory!
There are some more ships that could be added into the techtree, but most of them are just more ships of the small classes so we’ve left them out from this suggestion. But if you still want to check them out you can find them at the bottom of this post!

Before we end it for today, please give us your opinion on the techtree in the polls below!

Would you like to see the BeNeLux Bluewater Fleet Techtree be added to the game?
  • Yes.
  • No, I would add the countries as sub trees to existing techtrees ingame.
  • No.
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  • Yes.
  • I want to see sub-trees added to existing ingame nations.
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Unused ships

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Destroyer/Cruiser Line

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Admiralen-class destroyer, HNLMS De Ruyter (DR - 1926)

Description: The Admiralen-class were eight destroyers built for the Royal Netherlands Navy between 1926 and 1931. HNLMS De Ruyter was part of the first batch of four ships built of this class. De Ruyter originally had very short smoke stacks as seen on the photo above, this caused issues so this was quikcly changed. The ship was renamed to HNLMS Van Ghent early in it’s carreer in order to clear up the iconic De Ruyter name which was to be used for a new Light Cruiser.
Suggestion topic: Dutch Admiralen-class destroyer (1st Batch), HNLMS Van Ghent (ex-De Ruyter)

Type: Destroyer
BR: 3.7

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Displacement: 1.680 tons
Length: 98.15 m
Beam: 9.45 m
Draught: 3 m
Crew: 149

Propulsion: 31,000 HP, 2 x Parson turbines, 3 x 3-drum Yarrow waterpipeboilers
Speed: 36 knots (66.67 km/h)

Armament:
4 x 1 120 mm No. 4 cannons
2 x 1 75 mm No. 6 cannon
4 x 1 12.7 mm Browning machine guns
2 x 3 533 mm torpedo tubes (Whitehead Type II torpedoes)
4 x 1 Depth charge throwers, with 12 depth charges total
2 x 1 mine lauching rails, with 24 Vickers mines total

1 x 1 Aircraft catapult, with the Van Berkel W-A floatplane carried. (Max speed 135 km/h, 1 x 7.92 mm Lewis machine gun in a gunner position)

Armour:
Nothing worth mentioning


Admiralen-class destroyer, HNLMS Kortenaer (KN - 1928)

Description: The Admiralen-class were eight destroyers built for the Royal Netherlands Navy between 1926 and 1931. HNLMS Kortenaer was part of the first batch of four ships built of this class. This first batch lacks any kind of anti-air autocannons.
Suggestion topic: Dutch Admiralen-class destroyer (1st Batch), HNLMS Kortenaer

Type: Destroyer
BR: 3.7

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Displacement: 1.680 tons
Length: 98.15 m
Beam: 9.45 m
Draught: 3 m
Crew: 149

Propulsion: 31,000 HP, 2 x Parson turbines, 3 x 3-drum Yarrow waterpipeboilers
Speed: 36 knots (66.67 km/h)

Armament:
4 x 1 120 mm No. 4 cannons
2 x 1 75 mm No. 6 cannon
4 x 1 12.7 mm Browning machine guns
2 x 3 533 mm torpedo tubes (Whitehead Type II torpedoes)
4 x 1 Depth charge throwers, with 12 depth charges total
2 x 1 mine lauching rails, with 24 Vickers mines total

1 x 1 Aircraft catapult, with the Van Berkel W-A floatplane carried. (Max speed 135 km/h, 1 x 7.92 mm Lewis machine gun in a gunner position)

Armour:
Nothing worth mentioning


Admiralen-class destroyer, HNLMS Piet Hein (PH - 1928)

Description: The Admiralen-class were eight destroyers built for the Royal Netherlands Navy between 1926 and 1931. HNLMS Piet Hein was part of the first batch of four ships built of this class. This first batch lacks any kind of anti-air autocannons.
Suggestion topic: Dutch Admiralen-class destroyer (1st Batch), HNLMS Piet Hein

Type: Destroyer
BR: 3.7

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Displacement: 1.680 tons
Length: 98.15 m
Beam: 9.45 m
Draught: 3 m
Crew: 149

Propulsion: 31,000 HP, 2 x Parson turbines, 3 x 3-drum Yarrow waterpipeboilers
Speed: 36 knots (66.67 km/h)

Armament:
4 x 1 120 mm No. 4 cannons
2 x 1 75 mm No. 6 cannon
4 x 1 12.7 mm Browning machine guns
2 x 3 533 mm torpedo tubes (Whitehead Type II torpedoes)
4 x 1 Depth charge throwers, with 12 depth charges total
2 x 1 mine lauching rails, with 24 Vickers mines total

1 x 1 Aircraft catapult, with the Van Berkel W-A floatplane carried. (Max speed 135 km/h, 1 x 7.92 mm Lewis machine gun in a gunner position)

Armour:
Nothing worth mentioning


Admiralen-class destroyer, HNLMS Van Ghent (GT - 1928)

Description: The Admiralen-class were eight destroyers built for the Royal Netherlands Navy between 1926 and 1931. HNLMS Van Ghent was part of the first batch of four ships built of this class. This first batch lacks any kind of anti-air autocannons.
Suggestion topic: Dutch Admiralen-class destroyer (1st Batch), HNLMS Van Ghent (ex-De Ruyter)

Type: Destroyer
BR: 3.7

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Displacement: 1.680 tons
Length: 98.15 m
Beam: 9.45 m
Draught: 3 m
Crew: 149

Propulsion: 31,000 HP, 2 x Parson turbines, 3 x 3-drum Yarrow waterpipeboilers
Speed: 36 knots (66.67 km/h)

Armament:
4 x 1 120 mm No. 4 cannons
2 x 1 75 mm No. 6 cannon
4 x 1 12.7 mm Browning machine guns
2 x 3 533 mm torpedo tubes (Whitehead Type II torpedoes)
4 x 1 Depth charge throwers, with 12 depth charges total
2 x 1 mine lauching rails, with 24 Vickers mines total

1 x 1 Aircraft catapult, with the Van Berkel W-A floatplane carried. (Max speed 135 km/h, 1 x 7.92 mm Lewis machine gun in a gunner position)

Armour:
Nothing worth mentioning


Some extra sources

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Belgium:
Various ships: marinebelge

Netherlands:
Blueprints: https://www.nationaalarchief.nl/onderzoeken/archief/4.MST
Photos: https://beeldbank.nimh.nl/

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Ah the Friesland-class and De Zeven Provinciën-class are too beautiful…
I would have to say that the TT is also quite attractive overall. +1 from me

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the Belgian line really brings the whole tree together and makes it possible lol
+1

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Gotta love to see some BeNeSam action. +1 for the tree!

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We could add every refit of Kamima and Artevelde to fill the line xD
That would be around 6 ships I think.

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Small update for the tree:


Two new ships have been added. These are:

Both ships are of the Gerard Callenburgh-class destroyer, and both were laid down but not finished before Germany invaded the Netherlands. Both hulls were destroyed to avoid capture.
In the techtree they add to the existing destroyers, with Philips van Almonde having a more unique name so it being an event ship.

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Is it possible to add the Holland, Friesland and Van Amstel (Cannon) class of the 50s or doesn’t that fit the current timeline?

The destroyer escorts armed with primairy 76mm guns are reserved for the coastal fleet techtree. I’ve got the preperations ready for the coastal fleet suggestion, but I still need to work out the details and submit it.

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It would seem to me that Kamina, Artevelde and Willem van der Zaan with their light armament also belong in coastal rather than bluewater.

That is true, and the annoying thing is that high tier Coastal ships, and low tier Bluewater ships are very similar. But here are the reasons we have the three ships you mentioned in the Bluewater techtree:

  • Kamina: The ship has a massive displacement of 5,202 tons. Easily four times heavier then most destroyer escorts.
  • Artevelde: It’s got German 105mm guns similar to those seen on German reserve destroyers, and it is also the only other Belgian ship that could be in the Bluewater Fleet, so we added it here.
  • Willem van der Zaan: While small, it still has 105mm guns similar to other ships of the reserve Bluewater fleet trees. Plus it’s actually a ocean going vessel, and it carries a lot of mines, making it more of a Bluewater Fleet ship.

HNLMS De Zeven Provinciën? pretty sure this is a Dreadnought redesignated as a Coastal Defense Ship due to age and service.

Armoured Cruiser is more accurate actually. The Dutch Pantserschepen are ocean going vessels, not Coastal Defence ships.

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You have some talent mate giving me excitement to play naval. Lol

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