- Yes.
- No.
- In a Dutch or BeNeLux techtree.
- In the British techtree as a premium.
- Other (Please explain).
- I said ‘No’ in the first question.
Hello everyone, today I’d like to suggest a Dutch interwar period class destroyer!
This is the Admiralen-class destroyer, Van Nes!
HNLMS Van Nes
History about the Admiralen-class
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The Admiralen-class (In English, Admiral-class) destroyers were made out of the need to replace the ageing Roofdier-class destroyers. The Roofdier-class consisted of eight ships, therefor this new Admiralen-class would also consist of eight ships.
These ships being:
- HNLMS Evertsen (EV)
- HNLMS Kortenaer (KN)
- HNLMS Piet Hein (PH)
- HNLMS De Ruyter (DR) (Later renamed Van Ghent (GT))
- HNLMS Van Galen (VG)
- HNLMS Witte de With (WW)
- HNLMS Banckert (BK)
- HNLMS Van Nes (VN)
The (EV), (PH) or (BK) in the names of the ships is a shortening of the ship’s name, and interestingly also painted on the side of each ship is very large letters. Thus you can very quickly reconize the different ships by reading the letters.
The ships were laid down in three batches, of which the first batch differed from the second and third. First ‘Evertsen’, ‘Kortenaer’, ‘Piet Hein’ and ‘De Ruyter’ were laid down during August of 1925. Then ‘Van Galen’ and ‘Witte de With’ followed in May of 1927. And at last ‘Banckert’ and ‘Van Nes’ were laid down in August of 1928.
Just like many ship classes, the first batch of four ships served as a good testing ground to futher improve the class. To point out some differences, this first batch originally had much shorter smoke stacks, which quickly proved to be very annoying, so they were lengthened shortly after, and for the second and third batch this lengthened smoke stacks came standard.
HNLMS De Ruyter (Later renamed to Van Ghent), of the 1st Batch, with the original shorter smoke stacksAlso something the first batch differs in is secondairy armaments. The 40mm pom-pom was not quite in use yet for the Dutch so this first batch had to do without, whereas the second and third batch did have pom-pom’s. But to make up for this lack of autocannons, the First batch did recieve an extra secondairy 75mm gun, giving it two compared to the single on found on the second and third batch.
When the ships were laid down, it turned out that the ships were very well designed, and overall a succes. One ship of the class (HNLMS Piet Hein) reached a top speed of 36 knots during a test once. That was 4 knots faster then what was originally intended for the design.
The only downside to the class design was that they were fairly lightly armed compared to other destroyer designs of the time. But they made up for it with the excellent Dutch fire control systems.
At first the ships were used in the Dutch Caribbean during their early career. They mostly patrolled the waters there, and did not engage in any battles.
After 1933 the ships started to move towards the Dutch East Indies, where they carried out more patrol duties, and simple duties like going to a location just to show the Dutch dominance there.
During the 1940’s the ships carried out guarding and escort duties.
HNLMS Van Galen, HNLMS Banckert and HNLMS Arend in Curaçao during 1931
Ship design (3rd Batch Admiralen-class)
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Blueprint of the 3rd Batch destroyers ‘Banckert’ and ‘Van Nes’
Deck plan of the 3rd Batch destroyers ‘Banckert’ and ‘Van Nes’The design of the ship was based on the British Ambuscade and Amazone destroyers. These two British destroyers served as the prototypes for the Admiralen-class. The 3rd Batch of ships are actually completely identical to the 2nd Batch. The only difference is their 75mm gun, which is of a slightly different sub-type now.
The primary armament of the Admiralen-class consisted of four single 120mm guns. On the 3rd Batch these were the No. 5 type. While four primary guns is not very impressive, the fire control system on the ships was excellent. Thus making the guns much more accurate then what can be seen on ships of other countries.
The 12cm No. 5 guns on HNLMS Van GalenThe secondairy armaments for the 3rd Batch consisted of a single 75mm No. 8 gun. This one was located amidship on a raised platform. This gun is dual purpose, so it can also engage aircraft.
The 7,5cm No. 8 gun located amidship, on board HNLMS Van NesJust like the 2nd Batch of Admiralen-class destroyersthe 3rd batch ships have four 40mm No. 1 (pom-pom) autocannons. These were located in four single mounts, with two on either side of the ship.
The 40mm pom-pom’s onboard HNLMS Van Galen, note that they have a piece of cloth around of for when the ship is not engaged in battleFuther weaponry include four 12.7mm Browning machine guns, with two being located on near the bridge, and the other two near the 75mm gun platforms. Six 533mm torpedo tubes in two tripple tube launchers were also carried. These carried Whitehead Type II torpedoes with a range of 4.000 meters.
4 depthcharge throwers, with a total of 12 depth charges, and 2 minelaying rails with a total of 24 mines completed the armaments of the 1st Batch Admiralen-class.
One last thing that the Admiralen-class also had was a aircraft catapult. This was located on top of the aft Torpedo tube launcher. This catapult could carry a Van Berkel W-A floatplane. But in reality this plane was never really carried a lot. And during the course of the 1930’s, this catapult was discarded.
A Van Berkel W-A floatplane
Cutaways of the 3rd Batch destroyers ‘Banckert’ and ‘Van Nes’
History of Van Nes
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HNLMS Van Nes together with another shipHNLMS Van Nes was tasked with escorting auxiliary ships that were busy evacuating Dutch people of the Islands in the Dutch East Indies. But just after leaving a port, a Japanese scout aircraft was spotted. The crews onboard Van Nes started firing at it right away with their 75 and 40mm guns. Shortly after an unknown vessel was spotted. Either a cruiser or destroyer.
Van Nes started steaming towards the target, and when it range opened up with her 12cm guns.
After getting to about 4000m away from the target they stopped firing. Turns out they were shooting at one of their beached sister ships, the HNLMS Van Ghent who had ran aground earlier that day, and was abandoned.
Later that day a formation of Japanese bombers was spotted. Van Nes was still escorting an allied ship, but this ship was not very agile, and could not dodge the incomming enemy bombs. After this the Japanese aircraft focussed their attention on the Van Nes. Van Nes managed to dodge many bombs with her good agility, and when the bombers had ran out of bombs, they left.
But this victory did not last long, for another group of bombers was already under way. This second group would manage to hit Van Nes twice with bombs. One of these bombs made a direct hit on the Van Nes, and her ammunition blew up, completely breaking the ship in two.
But even if Van Nes had survived this second air attack, she was doomed anyways. From documents seen after the war, it turned out the Japanese aircraft came from the aircraft carrier Ryujo. And if the aircraft had failed to destroy the Van Nes, then the cruiser IJN Chokai and Destroyers IJN Shirakuma and IJN Isonami were waiting just around to corner ready to finish the Van Nes of.
In the end 68 of the 143 crew members lost their lifes.
A painting of the loss of HNLMS Van Nes
Specifications, Van Nes
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Length: 98,15 m
Width: 9,45 m
Depth: 3 m
Displacement: 1.316 Tons empty, 1.680 tons fully loaded.
Engine: 2 x Parson turbines, 3 x 3-drum Yarrow waterpipeboilers
Engine power: 31.000 hp
Number of screws: 2
Max speed: (Planned) 32 knots / (Achieved during a test by HNLMS Piet Hein) 36 knots
Crew: 149
Armaments:
- 4 x 1 120 mm No. 5 cannon
- 1 x 1 75 mm No. 8 cannon
- 4 x 1 40 mm No. 1 autocannon
- 4 x 1 12.7 mm Browning machine gun
- 2 x 3 533mm Torpedo tubes, with Whitehead Type II torpedoes (Max range of 4.000 meters)
- 4 x 1 Depth charge throwers, with 12 depth charges total
- 2 x 1 mine lauching rails, with 24 Vickers mines total
- 1 x 1 Aircraft catapult, with the Van Berkel W-A floatplane carried. (Max speed 135 km/h, 1 x 7.92 mm Lewis machine gun in a gunner position)
The floatplane catapult was discarded early on in the 1930’s
Ingame
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Ingame I would like to see these ships added in a Dutch or BeNeLux techtree. The ships are not extremely powerfull so putting them in, for example, a British techtree will just make people skip past them. But in a Dutch or BeNeLux techtree they would actually form the backbone of the destroyer line, so there they would serve a much better purpose.
If a Dutch or BeNeLux techtree is out of the question, then having it in the British techtree as a premium makes the most sense.
The fast speed and accurate guns will make the Admiralen-class a pretty fun class to play. The ability to lay mines, launch aircraft, and drop pretty good torpedoes will make the HNLMS Van Nes a very capable ship!
Make sure to check out the other ships of the Admiralen-class!
1st batch
2nd batch
3rd batch
- HNLMS Banckert
- HNLMS Van Nes
HNLMS Van Nes moving at speed
And there we go, that was the Admiralen-class destroyer HNLMS Van Nes!
Make sure to vote in the poll above, and put a comment down below! See you next time!
Extra Photos
Sources
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Primary source:
- Nederlandse marineschepen 1939-1945, Deel 1 , book by Peter Kimenai.
Secondairy sources:
Van Berkel W-A floatplane:
Historical photos:
Blueprints: