yo bro about the greece sub tree fine whatever good for them but look at the rank 1-3 pic you posted earlier it literally has stock shermans and amx13s in it and bro zachlam is literally just an m3 halftrack with a missile and the l33 roem is just a sherman with a big gun 💀 those are just field mods not some super unique indigenous design you guys are literally proving my point that imported stuff is perfectly fine for low tiers lmao your whole argument just fell apart
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My point wasn’t about imports, it’s the fact all your listed vehicles just don’t have any modifications contrary to the concept posted by Pipimer (China also falls short in this regard as there should be several more low tier aircraft and ground units China either domestically made or modified).
Quite a few people have voiced issues about China low tier. Again it could’ve been much more unique but a lot of it’s domestic vehicles and mods were missed so what is unique in it’s trees is only because the manufacturer lacks it (Vultee planes, T-26 Model 1933 etc).
It’s true those could help.
Hopefully we get a full tree concept for Iran.
i am not sure if Iraqis and Syrians would like to be under a Iranian TT, if we are talking about an Middle East/Arabic TT then yea
dude nobody is hating here
so? Israel also used M4s, Cromwell’s and other stuff
bad examples, this countries are friends and have close relations, Iraq and Iran were on a bloody war 40 years ago
Quite a lot of people complain about China actually, they were arguably the biggest point of copy paste in this game before Israel and all the subtrees started coming in. In China’s case however, both the PLA and ROC have a lot of modifications and whatnot we can add to make the lower tiers more unique, however Iran doesn’t really have anything like that to my knowledge.
Syria has a small handful yes, but nowhere near enough to outnumber the copy paste that would have to be added alongside it for low tier. I think Iraq as a subtree is actually a neat idea though since it looks like relations with Iran are OKAY nowadays.
Either way, excluding low tier is by no means an insult to Iranian representation in War Thunder, and I’m sure many people still support the tree starting rank IV or V and up.
United Korea, Poland/Central Europe, LATAM are more interesting after that we have Turkic and African stuff, Iran is interesting but not in the levers of United Korea, Poland/Central Europe, LATAM
I’m fine with you guys having this conversation, but stop insulting eachother and leave politics out of it.
I said it’s unique not because it was built from scratch but the fact the mods aren’t operated elsewhere (to my knowledge) and the modification came from Israel.
That’s the sort of stuff I’m asking for a full tier Iran tree.
Unless Iran changed it that much to fall lower in rank and BR, that’s also not what’s being asked for considering all M47s in game are rank 5.
I would rather Gajin learn from prior trees and hopefully not make them half baked. I’m also not saying Iran has to have a completely unique low tier, I was speaking in defence of the notion the Iranian tree could start fine at ranks 4 or 5. I’m also fine with a tier 1-3.
I have also spoken in support in adding the Iranian tree as standalone or coalition so I’m in no way trying to stop it being added.
This isn’t an issue solely for Iran. Türkiye and Ukraine are both tree concepts I’d love to see but also recognise they have issues with the air and wouldn’t really have a great tier 1-3 for ground (which whatever is unique in that br range could just be added like the TCM-20 or the former French reserve tanks)
my bad mod dropping the history and keeping it strictly about the game from now on fr.
but to the guys above lets be real for a sec. yea i misspoke about the m47 being low tier my bad but saying iran has zero low tier material is just false we literally have m3s and m4s and t34s right there. israel uses imported m4s and cromwells and iran used imported m3s and t34s its the exact same situation so stop acting like iran is some special case that needs 100% unique prototypes to justify a rank 1.
and calling poland or latam more interesting is just a terrible take ngl poland is literally 90% copy paste nato and soviet stuff and latam is just US imports. iran has f14s t72s and its own domestic karrar tanks which is objectively one of the most unique and diverse lineups possible in this game.
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I don’t wanna drag this off topic but I know guy who can show Poland is a lot more the copy paste. Latam also has quite a number of mods and domestic stuff, Argentina and Chile especially.
lmao i swear this is literally a 1v5 boss fight rn 💀 i reply to one guy and suddenly 4 more jump in out of nowhere lol. anyway mod is right we chill. but back to the tanks my point still stands iran had real tanks in the 1940s so starting from rank 1 makes sense. no hard feelings to anyone just debating o7
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bro u dont even need to bring that guy in poland is literally just leopards and modified t72s which is fine but its still just nato and soviet stuff meanwhile iran is literally the only country with american f14s russian t72s and their own domestic karrar and zulfiqar tanks which is a completely unique mix u cant seriously say poland is more interesting than that lol iran is definitely way more unique and diverse than poland will ever be o7
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lmao bro u literally just edited ur msg to add the latam stuff 💀 but even if argentina has some mods like the tam its still nowhere near iran having f14s karrars and zulfiqars those are completely different levels of unique and honestly u keep bringing up other countries just to avoid the fact that iran is a top tier tree concept on its own fr
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pls research the subject Polish domestic defense industry is quite big, form the 1930’s to today with a small dark period of communism they have quite the number of interesting domestic stuff
LATAM has some of the most amazing modifications i have seen, also domestic produce stuff like the EE serries or other stuff that i am no expert on
Great Poland also has T-72s, also they have PT-91s
T-90MS? Its a very interesting tank but it doesn’t beat a polish line-up of SepV3, K2, K2PL, Leopard 2PL, that are far more diverse that a T-90
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bro buying K2s from korea and abrams from the US doesnt make a tree unique 💀 it just means u bought stuff from other nations and the PT-91 is literally just a T72 with era blocks its not some crazy domestic design. and latam is mostly just american and german chassis with new guns.
iran is literally the only country on earth that can field an american f14 next to a russian t72 and a domestic karrar tank in the exact same lineup 💀 that is objectively the most unique east meets west mix possible in this game. u cant beat that combo fr just let the community decide
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yo, I recommend you stop going off topic on this post firstly as it will probably get cleansed, but please do your research.
List of fully researched vehicles
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I feel like we are going circles here, maybe the convo should halt cause this is going barely anywhere atp
you saying the PT-91 is a T-72 with ERA blocks and then say the Karrar is unique domestic build?
and Israel is the only one that can Put Leopards, T-80s and Merkava’s together in a line-up