Take On Legendary Ships in the Battle of Jutland!

[TIGER_TANK_1]

Seems unbalanced, considering how good WW1 German ships are…I’ll just earn my score in random PVP.

[Kweedko]

This event totally shows how nerfing dmg to the structure was too much

Now anyone can’t kill anyone on battleships, except the ammo detonation cases.(which was tweaked just now) and even with this it’s no always enough 2 detonations and target still alive.

Besides that ammo explosion doesn’t do any structural damage what beyond the common sense. Here is the ticket about that Community Bug Reporting System

Are you enjoying "new" hulls strength mechanic?

My thoughts are, that community misunderstood the conception of this change and were focused on “loses its unsinkability” but as i understand the change was not about “unsinkability” but about ship’s structural integrity rough simulation of “deck crushing in to ship hold”, “bulkheads” breaking in half and so on. That’s why sections damaged over the water level, that’s why HE made good damage to them. But community misunderstood a conception(cause nobody from dev side voiced it) and asked for t…

As i said it was total misunderstanding within the community caused by this tread, structure dmg nerf was unnecessary.

[Feedback] Loss of unsinkability mechanics

poll A new mechanics of naval DM is introduced on the dev server: The hulls of ships have had their strength mechanic returned, expanded and redesigned. All other methods of destroying an enemy remain the same, with the addition of a way to destroy its hull to such an extent that unsinkability is lost: Small and medium boats can be destroyed by the destruction of any of the hull sections. If one section accumulates damage comparable to what is needed to destroy all the sections of the boat, t…

[foxmeup]

well, seems like a fun event, but naval is broken, and the other event actually rewards the player so i feel a bit sad for it because the endless grind calls.

[Thodin]

What is the German Reward? Or is it just the british badge? Also the Barham is too unbalanced, since the strongest German BBs (Konig class) are not ingame. Kaiser, Helgoland etc are just 2 leagues below ingame HMS Barham, which gets upgraded ammo on top.

[Morvran]

Not the most realistic event if Royal doesnt completely outnumber the Imperial German Navy :P

[SilentTracker]

No, I wont be playing Naval after you guys ruined Naval Arcade aiming, and have completely and totally ignored all requests from the Naval community for a conversation, or at the very least a response to the negative feedback. I have been polite and extremely patient. But my patience is pretty much worn out now.

I have pinged you guys multiple times now, and NOT ONCE have you even acknowledged my posts.

Very rude. I have 0 intention of playing Naval anymore at this point, and have just been playing other games. I am quite offended by this dismissive behavior.

Threads with player feedback about the Naval changes. Not a single reply from the Devs/Mangers/Mods, on ANY of the threads:

1. New ARCADE aiming
2. Navy Arcade Sucks Now
3. Naval mode is finally dead
4. Poll regarding new aiming system
5. Multiple unintended consequences of the changes to the Naval Arcade Battles
6. Bring back old naval aiming with some tweaks
7. I like the new naval arcade aim
8. Are you enjoying "new" hulls strength mechanic?

March 18th: I was actually in favor of the Naval Arcade aiming changes initially:

@SilentTracker

@Ingram_IV

The new aiming for naval AB is bad, please revert it.

I actually like the Naval AB aiming changes, HOWEVER, the BB’s MUST be decompressed to at LEAST 8.0 immediately. I am getting one shot in my heavy cruisers now from BB’s that I don’t even have time to hit. That is the biggest issue in naval now.

DECOMPRESS NAVAL, NOW. It has been YEARS of BB’s (and the Scharn) ruining matches for lineups at 6.0/6.3. Enough is enough!!!

@SilentTracker

@Rupert64

maybe the one-shot is also supported by the new aiming “system”… as everyone needs no skill to aim at ammo storage or other critical points.
What was wrong in the old system??

@Ingram_IV

The new aiming for naval AB is bad, please revert it.

I’m honestly ok if the Naval AB aiming goes back, even though I do enjoy the new easier aiming in AB. However I think easier AB aiming will pull more players in, and those who really don’t like it could shift to RB instead, boosting player numbers for both. But the biggest issue is still the massive compression in the Naval 6.0-7.0 BRs.

March 22nd, my final conclusions against (most of) the Naval changes:

@SilentTracker

Alright, final conclusion, new Naval Arcade is absolutely terrible. Coastal, destroyers, light cruisers, heavy cruisers, battlecruisers, battleships. All of it. Having AI light cruisers laser beaming my battlecruiers and battleships from spawn. Setting me on fire for the entire match. Cant even repair my main guns because ALL of my aux and AA guns are perpetually destroyed and/or on fire. AND most of the time can’t even cancel the repairs because of the STILL existing bug where the ship will start repairs by itself and/or prevent you from pausing repairs, even if you don’t have automatic repair turned on.

I thought the changes were ok/good at the start, but I am 100% decided against ALL of the changes now, including the aiming changes to Arcade. Change it back. Perhaps some other sorts of changes can be DISCUSSED BEFORE being implemented, with thorough feedback from the playerbase first. Specifically including the English speaking forums here, which were not consulted with before this batch of changes (at least not nearly enough, if there was any communication I missed on the English forums. Other than the Dev Server announcements, which wasn’t communication or conversation. Just “here it is”.)

But this current state of Naval is absolutely horrid. I am done with Naval until major changes are made/reversed. (And no I won’t be playing Naval RB, I simply do not like it personally. So, no, that is not an option or a solution for me.) I will simply just play my ground and air lineups exclusively, which I still enjoy.

Cheers 🍻

EDIT: I care about WT Naval tremendously. Not only because I have invested in numerous premium/rare botes, but because I enjoy it, a lot. A couple screens to show how much time and energy I have put into my Naval lineups:

EDIT EDIT: To be fair, I do think the changes to the compartment damage models is a step in the right direction, does help some/sometimes. But that is about the only change I can support.

March 23rd, my poll thread created:

[Poll] with multiple options for the changes to Naval Battles

Multiple option poll for the current changes to Naval Battles, especially the changes to aiming for Naval Arcade battles. Votes are public. I plan on leaving this poll running indefinitely, at the very least until changes are made and/or reverted. The only difference between Options #2 and #3 is to revert or keep the increased accuracy of AI botes (REVERTING Naval Arcade aiming, but keeping all other changes). Option #4 is for those who LIKE the new Naval Arcade aiming, but want to ONLY REVERT …

In addition, even when we make bug reports about the changes that were made to Naval (or any other modes), we have the Bug Reporting Managers closing our reports without even understanding OR READING the actual report. AND I pinged you guys MULTIPLE times about this, and again I was completely ignored:

March 18th: Bug Report Submitted, and linked on main thread:

@SilentTracker

EDIT: The “Realistic Aiming” does not work in Arcade Matches currently. I consider this a bug, have submitted a report: Community Bug Reporting System

Fwiw, you could change your AB aiming to RB aiming if you like. Still not the old AB aiming, but is manual control then.

Actually, now that I think about it, it would be great if we could choose between 3 aiming options for Naval AB: new AB aim, old AB aim, or RB aim. Then everyone can do what they prefer, but we still make it easier for new Naval players to jump into AB.

This setting is in the OPTIONS menu, not the controls menu:

March 18th: First attempt to contact you guys about the Bug Reporting Managers incorrectly closing my report:

@SilentTracker

@Stona_WT @Smin1080p_WT Could you guys please contact the Bug Reporting Managers and have them reopen my ticket, or at least actually address the subject of my ticket. The title of my ticket CLEARLY states that the issue is that the “Realistic Aiming” setting is no longer working. I even attached a screenshot of the setting that is broken: Community Bug Reporting System

This has nothing to do with what the devs and/or Bug Reporting Managers THINK is better, this is about player choice, and the actual report is about the “Realistic Aiming” option which is 100% NOT working anymore in Arcade. This IS a bug, and has nothing to do with the new Naval aiming system itself.

This is the sort of thing that gets people so upset with the bug reporting system: our reports are very often closed without the actual issue being address or even understood by the Bug Reporting Managers. This is extremely frustrating and unacceptable.

EDIT: OR at the very least go ahead and label it “not a bug” but PLEASE STOP IMMEDIATELY CLOSING THE REPORTS so that we can continue to explain the issue. This is also why so many players choose to talk about issues on the forums and refuse to use the bug reporting system when we are ignored and/or silenced improperly over, and over, and over, and over again on the Bug Reporting site:


I can’t even reopen my own bug report either:

Thank you.

EDIT: I cannot even edit my original post lol:

March 19th: Second attempt to contact mangers/mods:

@SilentTracker

@Stona_WT @Smin1080p_WT Could you guys please contact the Bug Reporting Managers and have them reopen my ticket, or at least actually address the subject of my ticket. The title of my ticket CLEARLY states that the issue is that the “Realistic Aiming” setting is no longer working. I even attached a screenshot of the setting that is broken: Community Bug Reporting System This has nothing to do with what the devs and/or Bug Reporting Managers THINK is better, this is about player choice, and the …

Any response or update guys? I am feeling compelled to open a duplicate ticket at this point because this is a bug that still exists in game. I’m sure the staff on the bug reporting site do not like duplicate tickets, right? This is why I strongly recommend that they stop immediately closing tickets before any of us have a chance to dispute the label “not a bug” or an incorrect assumption by the bug reporting managers.

There is a mini revolt brewing among the Naval player community, and incorrectly closing down our reports is not helping the issue. (And blocking any further comments and/or editing of the original report.)

I cannot reopen my ticket, cannot leave a new comment, and cannot even edit my original report. Completely silencing me incorrectly. What other choice do I have at this point but open a new bug report and spam up the bug reporting site with duplicate reports? Completely silencing us is unacceptable. (Deleting off topic replies, or locking down a bug report if the poster becomes rude/offensive or otherwise posts non constructive information is perfectly understandable and acceptable. But I only posted verifiable information, and was not rude or negative in any way.)

Thank you.

NOPE. No more Naval for me, or any more money from me until we get a real response and plan on corrections from the Devs. I have had my fill of this nonsense.

And once again to show that I am not just some free loader complaining, I have spent HUNDREDS of $'s on my Naval lineups. I at LEAST deserve a response from you guys:
US:

RU:

I currently have over 500 days of Premium Time, almost 1.5 years worth:

Thank you

[Morvran]

0 score multiplier sucks. 4 kill game, barely 1200 score. Gunna take 20 matches just to get a decal. Normally its 3

[MJPIA]

No score multiplier in a pure BB vs BB mode where you can and likely will spend half the match slugging it out with one BB before it goes down?

For a decal?

Who designs these?

[qpranger]

I would have started playing Naval (Arcade) a long ago if it was not for the silly anticheat requirement.
My system barely handles this game at decent settings without such bloatware in the background AND it is not required in Ground Arcade and Air Arcade, so why Gaijin decided to cripple Naval Arcade with it is beyond me. Remove the anticheat requirement and more people will play Naval Arcade.

[Morvran]

I think the problem is unlike air and ground, naval arcade rewards nearly the same or even the same as realistic and naval seems to be perticularly vulnerable to botters

So probably best to keep the anti cheat on arcade naval for now

[SPANISH_AVENGER]

I wish these ships had the chance to play like this in the actual game.

They should NEVER be able to face the current 7.0s or half the 6.7s as they do now… compression is way too extreme. The legendary ships of the Battle of Jutland are naturally stomped and rendered obsolete by Scharnhorsts, Mutsus, Colorados, Hoods, etc.

This event finally allows these ships to shine and be fun and balanced for once.

[Cepeleon]

Gaijin ruined Naval and now run an event for it… you gotta be kidding me.

[Vennem]

First and last Battle of Jutland for me. No vehicle reward, same old empty circle map, same old bot spam. Rewards are anemic. Hard pass.

[int_main]

Goth bless the reward is just a decal, having a blast with signalis instead .

[Vennem]

@int main

Goth bless the reward is just a decal

[Thodin]

Just played a match, sunk 2 ships, got 1000 points at the end. I guess for just a decal its too much to grind 20.000 points. Its roughly 20 matches, its way off.

[Morvran]

Yeah. Im debating whether or not I can be bothered. Its an interesting gamemode for a match or 2, but I dont know if I’ve got 20+ matches in me just for a decal that I’ll probably never even use.

[TIGER_TANK_1]

The 6.0 German battleships are something else. Since the update, they struggle with AP shells even against cruisers.

[TIGER_TANK_1]

I just did it in naval AB, in random PVP battles.

It’s not that bad as you face lots of cruisers. But the 6.0 German battleship guns may struggle even against them in longer range (10km+) which is frustrating.

[Morvran]

Oh, it’s not just the event. Assumed it was but never actually double checked that fact. If it’s doable in random NRB matches then it will be a doddle

(I really need to read the devblogs fully 😜 )