Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

Yes, a lot!

T-50TH Golden Eagle,
L-39ZA Albatros,
A-37B Dragonfly,
OV-10C Bronco,
Model 139WSM,

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I mean it does say “forwarded as suggestion” so maybe there’s some hope, but then again it is a minor nation so it might take a couple of updates for that to even be considered.

He might confirmed

Test/evaluation aircraft. Not even used in service and not service standard airframe.

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So is there any evidence that the F-16s and F-15s exported to Israel have been castrated from the combat capability to launch the AGM65?
If not, then you don’t need to reply to me.

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Yes but not as many as other ASEAN Nations.

Summary

Not counting AV-8S as its already confirmed, could a few props, but there is mostly only C&P left. Singapore, Malaysia and Indonesia also have unique modifications or dedicated variants of their equipment.

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from USAF official website

Then there’s also the Enhanced GBU-15 bomb with added GPS/INS nav system

EGBU-15

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Heres hoping gaijin doesnt just go the finland route and make anything unique prem/event only. If they did that id rather they just not add the TT then.

Concerning ground vehicles, Thailand is famously the only operator of Stingray light tank

Spoiler

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so what is the uk getting all together then? the scimitar which is pretty cool, a worse BC because we needed one of those, an OSA which I guess we needed a 3rd 10.0-10.3 SAM, and then the disappointment that is the Gr4, they could have just given the Gr1 a better pod and the IR PGMs and it would have been arguably just as good as the Gr4

Thing is the aircraft in the picture is F-16C Blk 30 while what we have in game is F-16C Blk40 and F-16D Blk 40.

When it comes to F-15E, it removed AGM-65 capability later into service. By the time first F-15I got delivered (1998) F-15E’s would’ve served for 10 years already. Also we cant forget that F-15I got multiple changes compared to its American and other versions.

Why ask for Mavericks when SPICE 1000/2000 and Popeyes exist? Ask for that, especially SPICE which could go to F-16C/D and F-15I.

Right. GR.1 then would “only” miss:

  • HMS + AIM-9M
  • MAWS
  • Better Engines
  • Paveway IV
  • Brimstone
  • Probably even more, I just don’t remember now

Perhaps most people here think IR PGMs would be a wonder weapon but sadly this isn’t true. What they would add to the game over TV ones?
One of the main weakness for TV PGMs is the fact they are incredibly slow. How IR PGMs will change that?

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  • Tornado GR.4
  • Scimitar
  • Ram II
  • Osa-AK
  • Super Hind
  • HMS Repulse
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Switch to AIM-9Li

Also used them so could be added


Rest is right

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so better engines the tornado Gr1 could also get, the brimstones arent worth taking, the paveway IVs are pretty good I wont lie but if the Gr1 got half the upgrades it should have it would be arguably better at a lower br since it wouldnt have 9Ms pushing it up in br, it could also get 9L/is do really the only down side is the MAWs and HMS

reliability they have a massive issue of them just exploding mid flight because their seeker has a tendency to lose the track

I completely forgot about the superhind, I guess thats kinda neat

They also operate a halirously modernised FV101 Scorpion with thermals and a LRF. Should be a right lark if added around all the leopard 1s etc. Not too much pen, but should be able to plonk little bundles of tea HESH on top of turret roofs with amusing results!

Spolier

is it roofs or rooves? /J

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If Brimstone are not worth taking for you it doesn’t mean they are not worth taking for everyone
Brimstone add to the Tornado GR.4 a lot more capabilities and possibilities, if you do not see the advantages they bring it doesn’t mean they are not worth taking.

I don’t see how IR PGMs would solve that. What would solve it is IOG and TV PGMs are supposed to have it too, there is a report about it.

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Not bad at all

Just a longer track range, If you ask me i would rather have the laser guided ones, but no idea if they could be used on the tornado.