I’d wager they did what they’ve done for all F-5Es: copy paste the flight model from the US one.
I imagine they’ve done the same for all the F-5As as well.
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Hi. Shouldn’t the SCU on dev receive AGM-65Ds and four python 3s (if it even had an option of carrying them?)? It currently gets only 2 air-to-airs and is literally inferior to the squadron FCU, while remaining at the same BR.
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Tbh I wouldn’t mind giving it Python 3 on the inner wing pylons and AIM-9M on the outer pylons (as well as AGM-65Ds if such are possible).
Yes, due to better electronics (HMD can eventually become a powerful thing in combination with Pythons and 9M) and such a quantity and quality of missiles to be placed on 12.0-12.3 but it would be better than what it is now (“cropped” in terms of armament F-5E FCU, but in TT).
And, well, I don’t think it’s a good idea to give this aircraft Python 4 (I doubt it will be fun to play with only 4 such missiles at 14.x against Eurofighters and in the future Su-30 and F-18)
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What I find surprising is that it still has the at this BR very obsolete radar. I’d rather have a radar with IFF than a HMD that is situational at best…
That the SCU is on the same BR as the FCU, but actually seems to be a rather less capable aircraft, is another surprise.
It gets only 2 Python 4, the other two missiles are Python 3 under the wings. With that loadout I could see it at maybe 12.7, 13.0 if the missiles are overly strong.
For a plane with (if Gaijin adds the missing ALE-40) 105 countermeasures, 15 of them large, and with a slightly more agile flight model than a regular F-5 (once they fix the wing) it can be a decent plane there.
Compared to an F-16A Block 10 it gets 2 less missiles, but also 2 better ones alongside significantly more CMs and with AGM-65Ds some better CAS as well.
Then the F-5TH would be a bit higher, with Derby and IRIS-T, but it’d still have the missiles to help it and the countermeasures and at least workable flight performance to make it comete at that BR.
I’m not really a fan of the idea of limiting what the F-5T is best known for, which is being a Python 4 armed F-5. It’s also the highest performing F-5 that doesn’t sacrifice one of the cannons for a better radar.
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Needs more souces on Radar, RWR, counter measure counts, AGM-65D.
Right now all the sources are websites, etc
Since it is SCU it have HMD already in game
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Are you referring to the F-5s in Thailand or in the world in general?
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Radar and RWR aren’t changed in the SCU, only the F-5TH (Third Capability Upgrade) got the new EL/M-2032 radar.
AN/ALE-40 countermeasure dispensers have already been reported, but passed as suggestion. These would be used with the F-16A/B OCU/ADF, Alpha Jet A/TH and F-5T/E/F, and L-39ZA/ART.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/OkqSrvjLionU
Referencing Thailand here, not sure how others stack up.
Though with a solid loadout of 2x Python 4 and 2x Python 3, HMD, IHQ package and additional AN/ALE-40 CM dispensers I’d imagine it’d at least still be up there somewhere.
I think this variant would be in fifth place among the F-5s in the world. The order would be:
- F-5TH Super Tigris (Thailand)
- F-5EM (Brazil)
- F-5E Tiger III Plus (Chile)
- F-5E Plus (Chile)
- F-5E SCU Tigris (Thailand)
It’s a bit difficult to classify them because some are better at missiles, others at radar, others at ground attack payload, but generally they are all similar.
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What about the flight model itself? It should have the IHQ package- the sharknose and W6 LEX- as well ad the underwing air to air missiles? I feel like at least these 2 changes should be added to the SCU to make it a little bit more competitive.
Report was accepted, now we’ll just have to hope they fix it.
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Lets hope gaijin doesnt pull a gaijin and not fix it for some obscure reason. The SCU has the potential to be a baller aircraft IMO with these bug fixes.
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