But it wont just be an IS-6, and neither will it be just a Jumbo, people will inevitably bring lower vehicles to higher matches, and even then most Brackets will have at least one other vehicle
The Maus was fitted with its Engine and Turret (Guns came later) at the end of 1944, after the fall of berlin, the soviets took both Maus prototypes and put the V2 turret on the V1 hul. So the Maus will be (4.0) 1944/1945 unless proven otherwise
Perfect matchmaker. Well done.
Yes. You have 1944-1945 as 4.0 in your list.
That’s not the point. Whoever is on the Soviet team will spawn an IS-6 if they have it. Wtf are you going to do with a Jumbo against them? You just wouldn’t spawn it at all because the moment you contest a cap in the Jumbo when the IS-6 has had the same idea, you’re just dead. It is an incredibly unfair fight.
Your criterion was “first test”. Well, here it is.
Test drive around the Alkett factory. 28th December 1943. This is the testing debut of the Maus.
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Thats the V1 Without a turret, the V2 was testing jn late 1944 with its turret and engine (but no guns)
Just looking at it from a single nation really hides one of the biggest issues with it: export vehicles.
Sure, often the US is stuck with a worse version of a vehicle in game as all other nations got later upgraded versions. But with historical BRs… IE F-15J being 2.7BRs higher then the US F-15A for a basically identicle plane. (Its not that late a delivery, at latest only a C8 lot, however the AAM-3 wasnt put into service until 1990 so)… Even with ungimped AAM-3s, that would be quite a massive BR jump.
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Were not basing off weaponry, that would make alot of vehicles overtierd, modifications like the T-64Bs T-64BV modification
So what? You mentioned “first test”. It is perfectly normal for a vehicle to be tested without some components, the turret is one of the easiest pieces to do without because the first test is always a test drive and you can just simulate its weight, as was done here.
Hell, some vehicles never reached functional completion during their development, see the Radkampgwagen. Are you going to exclude it from the rotation because it was never tested with a working turret?
It is expected that historical BRs would be terrible for balance, but you haven’t even settled on a consistent criterion for which date should count for whom.
The Maus in game is based of the V2, with a turret, therefore it goes 1944/1945, when the V2 with an Engine/Turret was actually tested
Except it doesn’t have the V2 turret. It’s based on the Soviet assembly taken to Kubinka.
Also, just to repeat, because apparently the point isn’t getting across…
To put the Maus later, you are selecting a criterion which is no longer “first test” but “first test with complete vehicle”. So what are you going to do with all the incomplete vehicles we have in the game that were never tested in full configuration?
No not exclude them, we just make an educated guess based on research, but if Gaijin ever goes through with this it will definitely look different
If its the Soviet Maus, the it still fits in 1944/1945 as it was assembled after the war in Europe, although it may be eligible for 1945/1946 spot.
We will put them where we feel they belong, and then let Gaijin decided, this project is just a basic view of the concept to iron out any problems, like the KV-1 (L-11) and KV-2 (1939) 💀
Chart refresh
Coming soon, comparison of Rank IX vehicles current and future
| Before 1930 | 1.0 |
|---|---|
| 1931 / 1932 | 1.3 |
| 1933 / 1934 | 1.7 |
| 1935 / 1936 | 2.0 |
| 1937 / 1938 | 2.3 |
| 1939 / 1940 | 2.7 |
| 1941 / 1942 | 3.0 |
| 1942 / 1943 | 3.3 |
| 1943 / 1944 | 3.7 |
| 1944 / 1945 | 4.0 |
| 1945 / 1946 | 4.3 |
| 1947 / 1948 | 4.7 |
| 1949 / 1950 | 5.0 |
| 1951 / 1952 | 5.3 |
| 1953 / 1954 | 5.7 |
| 1955 / 1956 | 6.0 |
| 1957 / 1958 | 6.3 |
| 1959 / 1960 | 6.7 |
| 1961 / 1962 | 7.0 |
| 1963 / 1964 | 7.3 |
| 1965 / 1966 | 7.7 |
| 1967 / 1968 | 8.0 |
| 1969 / 1970 | 8.3 |
| 1971 / 1972 | 8.7 |
| 1973 / 1974 | 9.0 |
| 1975 / 1976 | 9.3 |
| 1977 / 1978 | 9.7 |
| 1979 / 1980 | 10.0 |
| 1981 / 1982 | 10.3 |
| 1983 / 1984 | 10.7 |
| 1985 / 1986 | 11.0 |
| 1987 / 1988 | 11.3 |
| 1989 / 1990 | 11.7 |
| 1991 / 1992 | 12.0 |
| 1993 / 1994 | 12.3 |
| 1995 / 1996 | 12.7 |
| 1997 / 1998 | 13.0 |
| 1999 / 2000 | 13.3 |
| 2001 / 2002 | 13.7 |
| 2003 / 2004 /2005 | 14.0 |
| 2006 / 2007 / 2008 | 14.3 |
| 2009 / 2010 / 2011 | 14.7 |
| 2012 / 2013 / 2014 | 15.0 |
| 2015 / 2016 / 2017 | 15.3 |
| 2018 / 2019 / 2020 | 15.7 |
| 2021 / 2022 / 2023 | 16.0 |
| 2024 / 2025 / 2026 | 16.3 |
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Comparative Study Rank IX
The following images show the current (Ninth Wave) Configuration with speculative additions off to the right based on leaks
China
Rank IX with current and potentially planned additions (Not in proper places)
Forgot J-20 15.7
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BR Battle Ranges example
NEW! Battle Rating 2.0
Better decompression between 1939 and 1945
| Years | BR |
|---|---|
| Before 1930 | 1.0 |
| 1931 / 1932 | 1.3 |
| 1933 / 1934 | 1.7 |
| 1935 / 1936 | 2.0 |
| 1937 / 1938 | 2.3 |
| 1939 / 1940 | 2.7 |
| 1941 / 1942 | 3.0 |
| 1942 / 1943 | 3.3 |
| 1943 / 1944 | 3.7 |
| 1944 / 1945 | 4.0 |
| 1945 / 1946 | 4.3 |
| 1947 / 1948 | 4.7 |
| 1949 / 1950 | 5.0 |
| 1951 / 1952 | 5.3 |
| 1953 / 1954 | 5.7 |
| 1955 / 1956 | 6.0 |
| 1957 / 1958 | 6.3 |
| 1959 / 1960 | 6.7 |
| 1961 / 1962 | 7.0 |
| 1963 / 1964 | 7.3 |
| 1965 / 1966 | 7.7 |
| 1967 / 1968 | 8.0 |
| 1969 / 1970 | 8.3 |
| 1971 / 1972 | 8.7 |
| 1973 / 1974 | 9.0 |
| 1975 / 1976 | 9.3 |
| 1977 / 1978 | 9.7 |
| 1979 / 1980 | 10.0 |
| 1981 / 1982 | 10.3 |
| 1983 / 1984 | 10.7 |
| 1985 / 1986 | 11.0 |
| 1987 / 1988 | 11.3 |
| 1989 / 1990 | 11.7 |
| 1991 / 1992 | 12.0 |
| 1993 / 1994 | 12.3 |
| 1995 / 1996 | 12.7 |
| 1997 / 1998 | 13.0 |
| 1999 / 2000 | 13.3 |
| 2001 / 2002 | 13.7 |
| 2003 / 2004 /2005 | 14.0 |
| 2006 / 2007 / 2008 | 14.3 |
| 2009 / 2010 / 2011 | 14.7 |
| 2012 / 2013 / 2014 | 15.0 |
| 2015 / 2016 / 2017 | 15.3 |
| 2018 / 2019 / 2020 | 15.7 |
| 2021 / 2022 / 2023 | 16.0 |
| 2024 / 2025 / 2026 | 16.3 |
Maus at 3.7/4.0 and lower in BR than the SAV 1946, let’s go!
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Version 2.3!
Historical Battle Rating - Check in #1
not much to say, got the A-10A, A-10A Late, and A-10C done, fixed the changelog to reflect the forums own suggestion guides, here Sorry in advance poor SM when I make this into a suggestion
I will strive to get at least a book for a source, and if I have to use websites try to have three or more.
Once again stuff is subject to change, especially as I am debating whether or not to have armaments be a main factor in the outcome of the research, A-10A Late is my first example of choosing a BR with weaponry being a main role in the decision.
And please, feel free to correct me on anything, new sources are always welcome as long as they follow Gaijins rules (No Classified Documents!)
What would the years be based on? When the vehicle first entered service? Or when it left service? Because there is a big gap there. Or perhaps median service life? Also what about vehicles that saw service in different nations? Say Pz IVs that were sent to the middle east in the '60s? Regarding service life, what about vehicles that were in service for so long that this system wouldn’t result in them seeing all their true years if it was just one battle rating? Like soviet tanks from the mid-cold war in service so long that they’re being used today in 2026?
Also this isn’t getting into ammunition and missiles as well. What about tanks introduced in the '50s in game but are given '70s ammo? Or jets with later missiles as an option than they entered service with? Or perhaps jets that have missiles that are obsolete to what they entered service with, with a-historically weak armaments as the proper ones are omitted? Same with equipment, like jets that didn’t have RWR when they entered service having RWR and stuff in game, because they’re later modifications? Or model of vehicles that are not accurate to their earlier models, ex. the IS-3 being a later-style model than the original '45 version?
I am not against historical matchmaking as an optional thing, but I think just adapting the current BR system for it isn’t detailed enough to make a proper historical matchup, (much less one even semi-balanced), so I just wanted to bring up these potential flaws and questions regarding it.