Historical Battle Rating discussion

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Latest Version ← Please use this link to go to the current form of the project, I see no need to create a new thread yet… 3.0 will require its own thread

If Gaijin were to ever implement a time accurate “Historical” BR mode what do you think it would look like?

(I AM NOT SUGGESTING REPLACEMENT OF THE CURRENT BR SYSTEM!)

(ALL BATTLE RATINGS ARE BASED OFF YEAR OF INTRODUCTION OR SO, NOT WHAT WEAPONS OR EQUIPMENT THE VEHICLE HAS!)

Now revised BR brackets!

Decompresses ww2 and compresses more modern periods (SUBJECTED TO POSSIBLY CHANGE!)

Before 1930 1.0
1931 / 1932 1.3
1933 / 1934 1.7
1935 / 1936 2.0
1937 / 1938 2.3
1939 / 1940 2.7
1941 / 1942 3.0
1942 / 1943 3.3
1943 / 1944 3.7
1944 / 1945 4.0
1945 / 1946 4.3
1947 / 1948 4.7
1949 / 1950 5.0
1951 / 1952 5.3
1953 / 1954 5.7
1955 / 1956 6.0
1957 / 1958 6.3
1959 / 1960 6.7
1961 / 1962 7.0
1963 / 1964 7.3
1965 / 1966 7.7
1967 / 1968 8.0
1969 / 1970 8.3
1971 / 1972 8.7
1973 / 1974 9.0
1975 / 1976 9.3
1977 / 1978 9.7
1979 / 1980 10.0
1981 / 1982 10.3
1983 / 1984 10.7
1985 / 1986 11.0
1987 / 1988 11.3
1989 / 1990 11.7
1991 / 1992 12.0
1993 / 1994 12.3
1995 / 1996 12.7
1997 / 1998 13.0
1999 / 2000 13.3
2001 / 2002 13.7
2003 / 2004 14.0
2005 / 2006 / 2007 14.3
2008 / 2009 2010 14.7
2011 / 2012 / 2013 15.0
2014 / 2015 / 2016 15.3
2017 / 2018 / 2019 15.7
2020 / 2021 / 2022 16.0
2023 / 2024 / 2025 16.3
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I think it would have to be hand curated vehicle lists for each side, with limits on how many of a certain vehicle can spawn. It’s the only way it will be somewhat balanced IMO.

If it’s purely year based, some vehicles become very OP (Me-163, Me-262, many american planes, early war Russian tanks, etc) or very bad (SK60, many Russian planes, and many minor nation tanks/planes).

With that, you have compressed roughly 1.0-7.7 into only 3.3 Brs.

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the bf109G looking in horror as the downtiered sabre dives on him:

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cant wait to fight me-262 in my P-26 just like the good ol days of beta war thunder

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No not like that, 1.0 will only fight at max 1.3, you want to take a 1.0 to a 2.0 fight have a 1.7 or 2.0 on your team

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There will be limits and unequal team sizes, limits to spawns and vehicles

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this still means there is only 0.6br spread at most which is insanely compressed

proof: yak-3 (4.3 currently) will routinely face hurricanes, mk1 spitfires, P-40 variants, etc

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No, it would be on tue allies side, and with a decent map mechanic it would only fight on eastern map, mostly against getmany

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And it would be moved to 3.0 hurricane’s and Warhawks would be 2.0-2.7

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ok, it would still face extremely underpowered planes in comparison to it by virtue of it coming out in 1943 irl and facing the 1941 bracket as you showed

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Ok, all the way compressions would make it face 1943/1944 vehicle’s, happy now?

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Don’t understand what you’re saying here

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Just make it so 1.0 can only face 1.0, if you want to face 1.3 put a 1.3 in your line up

Sane for all the other BRs

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then there’d be like 4 different planes in a match

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There already are

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insane post.

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no

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Wdym?

Good or bad?

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Custom battles exist for a reason.

Era limit would be inherently unfun and imbalanced.
Realism is not history, and history is not realism.

Ah, so unrealistic arcade nonsense that makes things even less fun and imbalanced…

Every single time… Every time someone tries to peddle this, they come up with the least realistic features to try and justify it.
“We’ll have artificial limits on vehicles to force players to play vehicles they don’t want to play.”
“We’ll have Abrams fighting Type 61s.”
So on and so forth…

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What would you do then?