Community Update No.8: Responses and What’s Coming!

[Bloodmaster_XT]

Thanks for keeping us updated!
As a request, please consider bringing back the Tiger II (10.5 cm Kw.K), Panther II and Coelian in some way. If they were to receive remodels at the same time it would be a great way to commemorate the occasion.

[Rory_merchury]

Good news indeed for naval department. The new feature of For naval is a much needed addition but then again people will prioritize Firefighting and unwatering over all else so other builds are pretty much useless, an better fix would be to change the damage system and the modules with in the ships, half the shots you fire do not even do stuff even if you hit.
Aside from this I do not believe adding Greece and Cyprus to Israel is a very good idea. It will be a Heavy slap in the face for people from said country’s. Not only that but It is an better idea to make an combined Mediterranean tree or add Greece and Cyprus as an sub tree to Italy which is an better idea. If you want to strengthen Israel why not add Egypt and turkey to the tree. and if Egypt and Turkey are not enough you can always add country’s that surround Israel to the Stew and even maby add the Israeli vehicles that are stuck in other tree’s like USA tree to the Israel tree.

[Thomas_Belgium]

@magazine2

Free Daily Backups

In Ground, Naval and Air Arcade Battles, War Thunder is a game that requires a lineup for you to reach your full potential in the battle. However, some players may not have a full line-up — one way to help with this is by using backups, however they themselves can only be received as a random reward or have to be purchased. Because of this we want to make them more widespread and easier to use in order to introduce and teach more players about this useful (for both the player and their team) mechanic.

So, soon we’ll be adding a few backups that players can use for free in battle. This will just be one shared number of backups that can be used across all nations, all ranks and all modes. These free backups are not added to your inventory, instead they will simply be something you can use while in a battle. Once you’ve used them up, you’ll need to wait until the next day, where they will then reset and be replenished.

Great to see a reply to a commonly-discussed subject! Here below are some of the subjects that talked about it:

People will still 1 death leave. The issue was never repair costs

Repair costs were just an excuse for people who yolo and die or can only use meta vehicles, nothing else. We will continue to see 1 death leavers. I think the community as a whole should re-evaluate how they play the game/use their vehicles. The recent economy change however contradicts that notion. Oh well.

Solution to One-Death-Leavers / One-Death-Quitters Problem

During the last 2-4 years one death leaving (ODL) or one death quitting has become a major problem in this game. Games exist to be an interactive plattform where the actions of the players that take part in it have an effect on the outcome of it. But especially in higher BRs ODL has become the key factor if a match is won or lost. This completely takes away the reason of what a game is and how it works. There are more reasons for why ODL is a problem for war thunder, which is a multi-spawn gam…

One Spawn Quitters

Hi Guys, What are your thoughts about players leaving the game after using 1 tank/Heli? Gaijin need to do something about this, It really affect the game. What are your suggestions for penalties or consciences? Thank you.

1 Death Leavers - Post economy Experience

Step 1: Click to battle (Germany 10.3) Step 2: Join a match Step 3: Spawn in Leo-2A4 Step 4: wait 30 seconds in bush killing 2 tanks / GO and play the OBJ Step 5: Open score board and see 10/15 friendly players have disconnected Step 6: cower in fear as 11+ players + CAS are now bombing and annihilating you in spawn 3 min into the match Step 7: “No players active on team” Step 9: Repeat This has been my experience with 9.7-11.7 GROUND RB as of late as people still just leave after one de…

@magazine2

We also saw your comments about suggestions for the Israeli tree. We currently plan to expand the Israeli tree to include Greece and Cyprus to increase its gameplay diversity.

Definitely an interesting choice, these nations certainly have connections (although they are rare), and could support each other very neatly. Although Chili would have made more sense I think.

[WanouMars]

lol why are you here to pick on me?

I think any copy/paste is bad! The reason is Trees should have different flavors / gameplay options.
Now most tech trees look and feel the same.

I don’t care whether it’s a French, German, Russian, whatever, vehicle that gets copy/paste - it should not be. That’s it. (but it’s more true for the Rafale hehe)

[mm10000]

@magazine2

We had considered adding Singaporean vehicles to the Chinese tree to provide

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[PlayedStatue626-live]

I mean we could always get these

M113A1 (SAMSON Dual RWS)

poll M113A1 (SAMSON Dual RWS) [Flag_of_Greece.svg] [M113A1 Samson] TL;DR: Greek M113A1 demonstrator upgraded by Rafael with a 30mm-RWS and Spike ATGM launchers History The M113 has been a staple of the Hellenic Armed Forces for decades. It first entered production in the US in 1960, and in total, over 80,000 were produced. The M113A1 variant — fitted with an improved diesel engine — entered production in 1964, and the M113A2 — with improved engine cooling and suspension — in 1979. The …

Leopard 2A4 ASPIS

poll Leopard 2A4 ASPIS-NG [Greek Flag] [Front Top] Let’s start by saying, welcome to the Leopard 2A4 ASPIS-NG, a modification made by the Greek company EODH as an option for the 2A4s we currently possess. To start it all off I would like to begin with armaments; Main gun: 120mm L/44 cannon Machine gun (Coaxial): 7.62mm MG3A1 200 rounds in one belt with the ability to add another MG3A1 ontop of the turret like other Leopards for example Elevation/Depression: -9 & +20 Smoke launchers: 16 …

Leopard 2HEL - Greece cat

poll [i] [1483103811_bufer-obmena02]

History and introduction

In may of 2008, Greece commissioned its first series of the brand new Leopard 2HEL, a top of the line MBT not just in Greece but also the rest of the world. The Hellenic armoured forces had been growing steadily outdated in terms of performance armour and firepower, and with the rise of their competitors armoured fighting vehicle programs such as the Altay MBT, they only realised more and more about the need for comparable armoured …

Leonidas-2 (EWS)

poll Leonidas-2 (EWS) [Flag_of_Greece.svg] [Leonidas_5] TL;DR: Prototype IFV variant of the Greek Leonidas-2 APC, equipped with an American/Dutch FMC/DAF turret armed with a 25mm autocannon. History In 1958, the first prototype of the Austrian Saurer 4K 4FA armoured personnel carrier was produced by Österreichische Saurerwerke AG. 445 vehicles in total were delivered to the Austrian Army, with production ceasing in 1969. In 1977, production began of an upgraded version, called the 4K 7…

Leonidas-2 (TC-13)

poll Leonidas-2 (TC-13) [Flag_of_Greece.svg] [Leonidas (TC-13) (2)] TL;DR: Prototype IFV/SPAA variant of the Greek Leonidas-2 APC, equipped with a Spanish TC-13 turret armed with a 25mm autocannon. History In 1958, the first prototype of the Austrian Saurer 4K 4FA armoured personnel carrier was produced by Österreichische Saurerwerke AG. 445 vehicles in total were delivered to the Austrian Army, with production ceasing in 1969. In 1977, production began of an upgraded version, called t…

Leonidas-2 (T25)

poll Leonidas-2 (T25) [Flag_of_Greece.svg] [Leonidas-2 (T25) 3] TL;DR: Prototype IFV variant of the Greek Leonidas-2 APC, equipped with a Norwegian T25 turret armed with a 25mm autocannon. History In 1958, the first prototype of the Austrian Saurer 4K 4FA armoured personnel carrier was produced by Österreichische Saurerwerke AG. 445 vehicles in total were delivered to the Austrian Army, with production ceasing in 1969. In 1977, production began of an upgraded version, called the 4K 7FA…

Leonidas-1 (Nimrod 300/2)

poll Leonidas-1 (Nimrod 300/2) [Flag_of_Greece.svg] [Leonidas 1 2025] TL;DR: First prototype/demonstrator of the Leonidas 300, fitting the Leonidas-1 APC with a 30mm RCWS History In 1958, the first prototype of the Austrian Saurer 4K 4FA armoured personnel carrier was produced by Österreichische Saurerwerke AG. 445 vehicles in total were delivered to the Austrian Army, with production ceasing in 1969. In 1977, production began of an upgraded version, called the 4K 7FA G 127, now by S…

Leonidas-1 (ET-90 II)

poll Leonidas-1 (ET-90 II) [Flag_of_Greece.svg] [Leonidas (ET-90) (2)] TL;DR: Prototype FSV variant of the Greek Leonidas-1 APC, equipped with a Brazilian ET-90 II 90mm turret. History In 1958, the first prototype of the Austrian Saurer 4K 4FA armoured personnel carrier was produced by Österreichische Saurerwerke AG. 445 vehicles in total were delivered to the Austrian Army, with production ceasing in 1969. In 1977, production began of an upgraded version, called the 4K 7FA G 127, now …

ELVO Kentaurus – The ASCOD IFV's Greek cousin

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Challenger 2E (1998) - as showcased in the Greek Army Trials

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Bmp-1a1 zu-23

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Battleship Salamis - An Arms Race Over Before it even Started

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[magazine2]

Yeah, this Mosquito has no guns and doesn’t really fit the flow of the tech tree when researching it as it only has bombs. We’ve got four Mosquito variants in the British tree now, with all this in mind it fits well as an interesting squadron vehicle.

[Deathmisser]

Is the United Korea meant for the next update ?

[Phantom2hel]

man that i wish too… so all those tanks… get played from many and gaijin look at them and nerf them as they should be. i never heard a removed vehicle that is fake… to get a new projectile… as happened with the coelien… may they gave it a reason to get up to 7.0 in fast… and return the kuge (that one at least had 2-3 protypes… working) at 6.7

[Get_HeshED]

Honestly no difference for me. Either is copypaste, neither adds anything to the game and both dilute the game even more.

Neither should be added if it were up to me.

I am sure you had at least a handful of actually interesting things that could be added instead.

[Circleati]

@Get_HeshED

Options to whom exactly? To someone that can’t be bothered to actually play the game and reach 4.0 in another nation to get a vehicle he wants?

yeah thats gaijins exact target with this type of thing, if you give more options to an early player they might be more likely to stick around and spend some money, and in terms of gameplay experience, theres a lot more people who dont really care about that a whole lot than people who will complain and stop playing if two of the same tanks fight each other

[PlayedStatue626-live]

Does this mean there’s no limit to how many squadron vehicles a nation can get or is it quite generous.

Also more low tier squadron stuff please.

(Perhaps also make it a tad faster to get) (Please)

[Chilean_Thunder]

Can you explain to me how Chile wouldn’t be an excellent candidate for Israel when it has so many vehicles modified by that country? Honestly, sometimes I wonder if they actually review the suggestions one makes on the forum. Chile offers a great variety of games for Israel, giving it everything it needs, many light vehicles, tank destroyers, anti-aircraft guns, and unique vehicle modifications that were already passed on to developers several years ago and were joint projects between Chile and Israel. I can even give you a list of the vehicles modified by Israel for Chile or that were purchased directly from Israel.

For the love of God, even Chilean MBTs use an anti-thermal pack from the Israeli firm Fibrotex and even use Israeli ammunition.

Chilean vehicles directly related to Israel

Leopard 1V with Israeli Fibrotex system and Israeli ammunition

Leopard 2A4CHL with Israeli Fibrotex system and Israeli ammunition

M24 HVMS Super Chaffee armed with Israeli cannon, passed to developers several years ago

M41 Repowered and modified by Israeli companies with a new engine and laser rangefinder

M41 HVMS, prototype armed with Israeli cannon
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M-50 HVMS Super Sherman armed with an Israeli cannon and laser rangefinder

Chilean M-51 armed with laser rangefinder

Chilean Mowag Piranha armed with an Israeli turret and cannon

Chilean Mowag Piranha armed with Israeli TCM-20 machine guns

Mowag piranha armed Israeli lahat missiles

Please take the time to review this suggestion. Chile gives Israel a wide variety of vehicles and helps them reach rank 1.

Or at least explain to us what they plan to do with Chile and the other Latin American countries, since it is literally the subcontinent most mistreated by gaijin.

[Morvran]

This hasnt been an issue with multiple other aircraft in our tree. Such as the Buc S2 (which running the 2x 9Bs is never done) or the Canberra Mk2.

(let alone the fact that half our TT heavy bombers have so little defensive armament they might as well be considered being unarmed)

I dont necessarily see why it not having guns means it doesnt fit with the flow of the TT. If anything it EXACTLY fits the flow of our current bomber line

[henris101]

Oh Gaijin… Thank you for adding Greece, as someone with most of my Heratage from greece? I appreciate it, regardless of where it is.

Thank you.

• Malaysia, my friend wont shut up now, lol, thanks. Make it a good one!

[WanouMars]

I’d love to see a tech tree with only M44s, Leopards 2, F-16s - and 200GE camos for Spain!

[PlayedStatue626-live]

I’m purely running off the suggestion list.

Also all of these vehicles aren’t copy paste so I don’t see the issue.

That being said, Chile was a better option for Israel and so was India before it became a UK subtree

[Leinadmix9_ツ]

@magazine2

Yeah, this Mosquito has no guns and doesn’t really fit the flow of the tech tree when researching it as it only has bombs.

Crazy idea, put it in a folder with other mosquitoes

[J_ackal]

What of logic is this? If so, Italy??

[Bloodmaster_XT]

Aside from the Coelian, I don’t think they’re overperforming. But they’re still fun, competitive, interesting vehicles that everybody deserves a chance to obtain.