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Armor pen?
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the 120mm tank HE has like 4.2kg explosive so it will probably have around 39-40mm pen ingame i dont have any info for the HE filler of the mortar shell
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MOD 300 indeed has 4.2kg of explosive filler, MOD 308 on there other hand though has only 2.85kg of explosive filler. MOD 300 also offers superior ballistics as it is an conventional cannon round while MOD 308 is a mortar round. It is an interesting concept to fire both cannon and mortar rounds from the same cannon. In theory Mortar-Gun could use conventional HEAT rounds such as MOD 310 HEAT-MP.
In-game MOD 308 could be the standard round while MOD 300 as researchable option, even maybe proximity fused MOD 300 could be added to its arsenal.
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Hello everyone.
I want to ask.
After Sabra mkII (aka M60T)
Turkey has not received update Sabra mk.III?
And Instead of it they make M60TM?
M60TM isnt Sabra mk.III?
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The Sabra Mk.2 and M60T are 2 different vehicles entirely with loads of differences.
The Sabra Mk.3 was created around the same time as the Mk.2, it was likely an alternate option to be chosen if the Mk.2 wasn’t enough. However it appears the Mk.2 was chosen over the Mk.3.
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Hmmm. I saw a lot source says that it is same.
So… If not, What is the connection between them?
And does Turks really buy 170 Sabra mkII?
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The Sabra Mk.2 and M60T feature a number of differences, namely the M60T uses the hella old M60 commander cupola with the .50 cal, while also removing the extra roof armor the Sabra Mk.2 adds. There’s some other changes on top of that, just can’t remember them off the top of my head.
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The dates of their existence? Adoption into service?
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You can read more about them and their variants here:
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No, we did not go for any Sabra Mk. 3 based modernization package.
Correct, based on the experience from Operation Euphrates Shield.
No, it is M60T (based on Sabra Mk.2 but has few changes) modernized with Turkish efforts.
No, we purchased around 170 modernization kits, our existing M60A1 fleet was modernized.
Sabra Mk.2 was presented to us in 2002, and after their tests were complete and beated the 120S, they were purchased in 2005 with few changes and labeled as M60T, and first deliveries began in 2007.
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I am very grateful to you
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The JF-17 is a good Addition as a Premium-Pack.
Pakistan-China co-produced JF-17 “Thunder” Block 3 warplanes belonging to the Azerbaijani Air Force will be equipped with Gökdoğan BVRAAM and Bozdoğan WVRAAM air-to-air missiles produced by the Turkish defense industry. Long-range air-to-air missile Gökdoğan BVRAAM was developed by the Turkish company TÜBİTAK-SAGE to compete with the long-range air-to-air missile AIM-120 AMRAAM produced by the USA. -DSA
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+1, would be a great Israeli subtree!
No, rather an independent tree
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While searching for Turkish produced munitions found rather interesting thing, a local arms manufacturer, İstiklal Defence, has production capabilities of 125mm tank rounds, specifically Bosnian 125mm rounds.
According to their website, İstiklal Defence has capability to supply M04 APFSDS, M88 HEAT and M86 HE for 125mm Tank cannons.
M04 APFSDS
M86 HE
M88 HEAT
Indeed those rounds are not really Turkish nor used by Turkish Armed Forces, at least formally, those still might be employed in the game in some form. Currently only vehicles those round could be used are T-72B (TFCS) and T-72KAE/Shygys, but considering those are based of Kazakhstan’s T-72s, it might be a little out of place to add such ammunition. Still, those T-72s are modernised by Turkey and are not actively used by Kazakhstan Army and it could be argued that there is no harm in including rounds for export market in an export solution.
In any case, it is still a good find to me and might be useful in-game wise in the future.
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