Not necessarily Iraqi, but if you want to argue Abrams then I also fully support the ROC M1A2T to be added to the Chinese tree.
For Iraq that is more difficult since it’s not a subtree or nation yet, but if it did end up as USSR or Chinese subtree and Iraqi players agreed then I see no issue with it either. Sure it’s not that it stops being American made, but it is operated by Iraq, so it’s an Iraqi tank mainly. If it’s then added to Iraq (even if Iraq is in another techtree) it is exactly where it belongs.
Yet you was opposed to adding Czechoslovakian (Which is a bit different country than Czech Repbulic) vehicles to Soviet tech tree so it’s not Pakistani or Thai it’s Chinese tank.
But people will be opposed to that specially adding Abrams with APS system it’s a bit unfair to neglect Chinese people opinion sinse Abrams wasn’t added to Chinese sub-tree.
If the issue you’re describing is that you want the M1A2T then you got my full support with that. I also support the part of the Chinese complaints asking to fix historical issues with their vehicles and weapons and to treat the techtree better in general.
I already said that wanting the Thai VT-4 does not mean wanting to harm China in any way. I’m not even trying to dismiss the concerns with the VT-4, but I want to find a solution that is as fair as possible to all involved nations, with Thailand as the actual operator taking priority.
That’s definitely not a good idea ,we also used Eng ,Fra ,Ger and even Jap ver for game.It can’t hide.
By the way ,we acturlly found that taiwan vehicle still hanging the blue flag there already ,and in sim-chn ver it called china ,but in tra-chn or other languages ver. it called ROC .
Yeah, it’s not a good permanent solution. My main focus for a proper solution is to rework subtrees completely to be equally presented nations with no implied “main” nation holding any power.
But if it’s temporary while Gaijin figures out a more complicated change it could work. Calling the tree Thailand for 2-3 updates while subtrees are improved is not an issue when after that both Thailand and Japan are individually featured.
Yeah , I really don’t want to discourage you , but I don’t think Gaijin will discuss it .Counting money on couch will more easier that reserch a new system for Gaijin now. They didn’t even want to fix the battle pass level bug!
im gonna give you a benefit of the doubt and assume that theres something getting lost in translation.
czech republic is succesor state of czechoslovakia, same as slovakia.
I oppose czechoslovakian (or czech and/or slovakian) operated and owned praga and L-39 in soviet TT due to historical reasons because that would be like adding china operated and owned VT-4 to japan.
I would also oppose addition of chinese operated and owned VT_4 to japan.
I however do not see an issue with soviet (or syrian, egypt etc.) owned and operated L-39 in soviet TT.
I also do not see an issue with thai VT-4 in thai subtree.
In fact, the new plan will not add too much work, and it can fundamentally alleviate the current intense debate. If gaijin insists on the feasibility of this plan, my suggestion is that gaijin can make experiments first and then promote it based on the results.
Yeah, that’s the problem. But sadly it’s our only option as players we have to act fair to all sides:
→ Not adding VT-4 is unfair to Thai players who want to see their tank in game
→ Moving the Thai subtree away is unfair to Japan players who need the support to match other nations
→ Just adding it as it is now is a historical issue for Chinese players
Maybe a “neutral” option could also be to give an option to select techtree names/flags between the nations included. So instead of just having Japan it’s whatever each player selects from the options of Thailand, Japan or Indonesia.
This might be a lot easier to implement and be a more realistic solution than completely changing the name. It would also still make Japan no more of a “main” nation than any other, since the nation presented is whatever a player decides and Japan is just one of the options.
Sor my bad XD
I means gaijin will never think about how to optimize the game environment until something breakout. The battlepass had an serious bug, but Gaijin doesn’t even think of a way to solve it. It will be a very long time for wating Gaijin workout a new TT system .
I’m not meaning Gaijin can’t do this stuff, but for now, I think Gaijin still working on buliding a new folder XD
That’s a neat alternative to your suggestion at minimum.
It can be implemented faster too.
And if you feel your suggestion is still needed after that, then it still stands there.