thats apparently what they did one of gajins brilliant ideas
Probably got paid to do it from some 3rd side in chaina
It’s simply wrong. While I understand this is a “leak”, if this turns out to be true I might drop the game completely. It’s an illogical, and an insult to all of ASEAN who gained their independence shortly after WW2, and used that independence to participate in the Non Aligned Movement, being neutral towards both two power bloc.
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I would rather have it as a separate tree cause with Japan, the number of ASEAN vehicles will out number the Japanese, which makes it a bit ironic to call it Japan when there are more ASEAN vehicles.
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Ideally for me there will still be subtrees to help with gameplay related problems, but they will receive their own trees to give them the necessary space, as well as accurate flag and name representation.
I like subtrees as a concept, but their execution leaves much to be desired.
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I’d love to play Leopard2, but I’d rather play a 99A that could get better and more powerful.
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Unfortunately Gaijin will use ASEAN as an excuse to not fix 99A.
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Ok I got a solution for this, just split ASEAN in two piece, Southern part and northern part: Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand, Brunei and Philippine giving to Japan; Myammar, Laos, Vietnam and Cambodia to PRC.
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Their sub tree’s for a reason.
Keep in mind that we do not talk about politics here.
It’s rather difficult to entirely avoid politics as some things such as Asean or and even certain vehicle development for any country are always impacted by bureaucratic nonsense. Though folks keeping it to a bare minimal is the best thing we can do.
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I understand but it is against the rules to involve anything political on the forums. Just talk about the vehicles.
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Once again mighty, we know some of us do, i tend to mostly steer away from the deeper stuff and keep it vague and simplified.
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So I see how it is Gaijin…
Obviously i have a very strong opinion against the recent leaks, nevertheless, lets look at some of the more unique vehicles for ground that can be put for Singapore and Indonesia specifically. (The singapore vehicles are taken from the ground forces suggestion, feel free to add more)
Primarily follows 4 criteria:
- Unique domestic production
- Unique modification of preexisting vehicle
- Export version specifically designed for the country
- Vehicles that only a limited amount of country operated (less than 10)
- Rank 1
(ID/KNIL) Overvalwagen AA
(ID) LVT(A)(4)
- Rank 2
none
- Rank 3
(ID) E.B.R. (1951)
(ID) PT-76B (Dshk Mod)
(ID) PT-76 Roket (TAPIR)
(ID) REO M35 (Zastava M55)
(ID) Isuzu NPS (Giant Bow)
- Rank 4
(ID) SBS LT
(ID) Meriam 105 GS (AMX mk61)
(ID) AMX-10P Marine
(ID) AMX-13/75 (SM1)
(ID) FV601 Saladin (Retrofit)
(SG) M151A1C
(SG) Cadillac Cage V-200
(SG) AMX-13 SM1
- Rank 5
(ID) SBS MLRS (R-HAN)
(ID) PT-76(M)
(ID) Marder 1A3
(SG) M782 CEV
(SG) Tempest (Centurion Mk3/mk7)
(SG) SSPH 1 Primus
- Rank 6
(ID) Badak Skyranger
(ID) Scorpion 90
(ID) BTR-4M PARUS
(ID) Badak FSV
(ID) Anoa PK20
(ID) Yonkav 2 (Prototype)
(ID) Yonkav 2 (Production)
(ID) Cobra 8x8 IFV
(SG) Cadillac Cage V-200 RBS70
(SG) M113A2 Ultra IFV
(SG) Light Strike Vehicle
(SG) Light Strike Vehicle Mark II
(SG) Bionix 25
(SG) Terrex 3
(SG) Terrex s5
(SG) NGAFV
- Rank 7
(ID) Leopard 2RI
(ID) Leopard 2A4+
(ID) Cobra 8x8 CT-CV 105
(ID) Komodo 4x4 CPWS gen.2
(ID) Harimau MT (Prototype)
(ID) Harimau MT (Production)
(ID) Huzar 6x6 GROM POPRAD
(ID) Komodo 4x4 Mistral ATLAS
(ID) Sherpa Mistral MPCV
(ID) VAMTAC ST5 RapidRanger MMS
(SG) Hunter Cockerill 3105
- Rank 8
(SG) Leopard 2A4SG (Late)
(SG) SPYDER-SR
Since new people might be curious, for Indonesian vehicles the current suggestion is still being reworked so at the time being please refer to this google document to see a full list of Indonesian vehicles:
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If only that list of vehicles could be added somewhere it actually makes sense…
Rethink your mistake Gaijin, it’s not too late.
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Top to Bottom:
IAF Su-30MKI, GAF (German) Eurofighter Typhoon, AMI(Italian) F-35B, RAAF F/A-18 Hornet, Boeing E-7 Wedgetail & EA-18G Growler, AMI AV-8B Harrier, JASDF Mitsubishi F-2, and PAF FA-50
IAF Su-30MKI, GAF (German) Eurofighter Typhoon, AMI(Italian) F-35B, RAAF F/A-18 Hornet, Boeing E-7 Wedgetail & EA-18G Growler, AMI AV-8B Harrier, JASDF Mitsubishi F-2, and PAF FA-50
Top to Bottom:
JASDF Mitsubishi F-2, RAAF EA-18G Growler, RSAF F-15SG
JASDF Mitsubishi F-2, RAAF EA-18G Growler, RSAF F-15SG
Top to Bottom:
IDAF F-16D, SASF (Spanish) Eurofighter Typhoon, RAAF F-35A, RTAF JAS-39 Gripen, ROKAF F-15K Slam Eagle, RSAF F-15SG, RAF Eurofighter Typhoon, RSAF F-16, GAF Eurofighter Typhoon
IDAF F-16D, SASF (Spanish) Eurofighter Typhoon, RAAF F-35A, RTAF JAS-39 Gripen, ROKAF F-15K Slam Eagle, RSAF F-15SG, RAF Eurofighter Typhoon, RSAF F-16, GAF Eurofighter Typhoon
Participants of Australia’s Exercise Pitch Black 2024 that is relevant to ASEAN:
Japan Air Self-Defense Force, Royal Bruneian Air Force, Indonesian Air Force, Royal Malaysian Air Force, Philippine Air Force, Republic of Singapore Air Force, Royal Thai Air Force
I rest my case.
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Is there anything new since gaijin wants to please those Chinese players and abandon us? Ever since gaijin participated in an interview with Chinese state media, it seems we are about to be abandoned.
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If the leaks are correct, it seems like gaijin is going to jump into the political direction itself. This is very unfortunate. The reason why warthunder has flourished and the forums have been stable is because gaijin has been able to avoid political topics, and if that is lost, warthunder may perish.
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trade is not really relevant tbf, if we go by that then a majority of nations would then be put in china, due to current timely reasons japan makes the most sense, + japan kinda needs them
personally I agree though that a combined asian tree is also feasable
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