Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

Is that a dual rocket launcher pylon? Like 2 type-130 rocket launchers on the same pylon.
Also, just asking is there any way of separating the early J11s with Su27SK except for the serial numbers?

Yeah it is the dual launch pylon, we’ve seen it with J-10s with double PL-12s.

Also, what version of J11A is currently in game, because if it is the MAWS version, surely it would carry Chinese weapons or at least weapons with Chinese designations and not FABs and OFABs right?

It is hard to identify it. Having the MAWS doesn’t necessarily mean it has a different weapons. It is generally acknowledged that the first Sino flanker to have Chinese missiles is the J-11B.

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Is there any sino-flankers with PL11?
Also regarding the J11A, I am more talking about the bombs, if we can find specifics about J11A with bombs and rather with bombs of either Chinese designation or Chinese bomb.

They use Russian Bombs, similarly to how Su-30 only fields russian bombs.

No idea about the PL-11, honestly i don’t even see why we should consider it since we are heading to a full PL-12 meta for us.

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PL-11B (ARH) i would like to see, although i dont think its equipped by any Sink-Flankers

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I guess only J-10As used it right?

I just want domestic stuff lmao

Yeah me too, but i really don’t have any info on the PL-11s

J-10s, J-8(?), JH-7A, potentially others.

Yeah, i hope to see a new line for the J-10s.

I have a feeling that in next update, China will get F-16A MLU with FOX-3 and Su-30MKK/MK2 instead of J-11B. The Chinese Su-30 is not that different from Russian Su-27SM performance wise if their anti-radar / anti-ship missiles are omitted.

They could also double down and give us a full Taiwan update with either the Abrams or the CM34 and the Taiwanese Mirage.

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Do we have a general PLAAF discussion thread? If not i could give it a little bit of time to create it.

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Export variant if Su-30M2

Improve avionics, N-011M Bars passive electronically scanned array radar but equipped domestic chinese optronics including Blue Sky (navigation pod) and FILAT (Forward-Looking Infrared and Laser Attack Targeting)

Domestic chinese avionics, radar, engine and Air-to-Air armament

It’s here:

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Su-30MKK is based off Su-30MK.

Su-30MK2 uses N001VEP Radar.

looks like we’ll have to wait for either j10 or j11b to have a meta fighter. J10 in particular is interesting beacuse it appears to have maneuverability on par with the eurofighters rafales gripen etc