Schützenpanzer Puma IFV: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly. Part 2!

MUSS has norhing to do with LDIRCM, MUSS 2.0 is closest to LDIRCM

it is an LDIRCM or “Laser based countermeasure” as they name it

Made an updated armor layout for y’all:

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Gaijin be like: best i can do is 5mm of structural steel, unless you have classified documents, in which case i wouldn’t accept them anyway since they are classified, so better enjoy your ifv with 40 tons of non existent protection.

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Rubberbanding issues after the “Spearhead” update, the extent of the damage doesn’t matter, if your Spike launcher is destroyed for example, the handling physics will go bonkers.

Oh, that’s what it was, I thought the hamster was dying again.

The front-most bit you’ve labelled as “composites”, from what we can best tell the layout is:

  • ~50mm RHA faceplate
  • ~40-50mm composite layer
  • fuel system
  • ~50mm RHA(?) add-in (likely a quasi-baseplate the fuel system sits on when not inside the Puma so its easier to take in and out as a unit that doubles as additional armor)
  • ~20mm backplate
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Is it realistic that the turret front can be 50cal’ed? Ingame tanks always disable my turret with cal50.

Does this need to become a bug report in order for devs to actually see this?

not always its just that they have their priorities set to other stuff

What’s the priority?

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a speedometer that says truth and lie on the side

Currently grinding the last few modules of the first PUMA and my god is it a POS. MUSS not working, APFSDS not working, AHEAD not working, lacking armor and the fact that literally any shot taken to the turret completely disables it; including breach, turretdrive with all your ammo.

Sure I try to use it as a flanker on the few maps that permit it but even if you get on the flank, the damage output is anemic compared to a flank of a 2S38 or 2M.

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It’s a CAS getter, nothing more.
Get out in the field → lauch spikes → die → get your plane or whatever


Can’t view these for some reason, but PUMA is in need of armor revisit, in the age of BMPT’s.

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Because old forum which is gone

Look at the behavior of MUSS

unfortunately gaijin hasnt done anything to fix it even tho they claim they are wich its rather obvious by the fact that some members of the community have made up their own solutions to the problem by increasing the detection range of the aps, it is a really bad problem that gaijin refuses to fix because of their lack of initative

Not like the APS would do anything; IRCCM is too common at 10.3 and 11.0 for it to ever matter.

im pushing a fix cuz we know thanks to hensoldt that MUSS 2.0 its capable of jamming fire and forget and beam riding thanks to their newer info

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