It’s during events, in rank 6 & 7, but it’s not PvE, it’s just people exploiting rockets on airfields, suiciding in a dive on the airfield with an F-111, F-4, Su25, Su17 …
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Bombers in WW2 ranks are of course good targets for fighters. They are slow and easy to intercept. And yes, with 7mm you can’t really defend yourself. Try something with ~ 12.5mm, that’s way more effective. But fighters will always try to attack you. That’s their purpose.
In what altitude did you fly?
Stay super low (treetop level), so you are difficult to see, or super high (above 5000m), so fighters have to climb slowly, can’t catch you or loose interest.
A bomber at 500-2000m is a bright, shining target for every fighter.
I was around 3800-4000m after sideclimbing in my own base. I didn’t expect to see somebody because I was told that Sim is mainly fighters at 2km alt.
Normally yes. 90% are under 3000m and 50% are under 1000m.
Maybe you just had bad luck and met one of the 10%.
I usually try to stay above 10K feet.
The furball is usually on the deck or moving towards it from around 8K feet.
I go hunting for sideclimbing bombers and then dive in at the ball when it gets too close.
You probably just got unlucky
why don’t you make an actually decent PvE mode for those that don’t want to PvP? oh I don’t know… maybe like this one?
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How should I do that?
I’m just a game master - I have zero connection to devs! We’re just regular players volunteering to moderate chat and such…
= (
I figured game “master” had a bit more significance, my b.
I just hate how much PvP is forced down your throat, I want to be able to enjoy this game but it’s a headache at the best of times
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But it’s a PvP game…
If they add PvE lobbies, rewards will be lower that in the actual PvPvE ones, and people will let PvE lobies empty, and will try to make pacts in the PvPvE ones … so nothing will change.
Or if you keep the same rewards, they’ll make the AI much more deadly … and again, the same would happen.
90% of people asking for PvE don’t want PvE, they want an easy mode for grinding.
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PvPvE, everyone seems to forget about that bit
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PvE lobbies already somewhat happen because of people having agreements, and i love them since its Free kill galore
No, we don’t forget about it. I for one just don’t feel it necessary to point this out specifically, as basically every game mode has PvE elements, even Naval and to some extent Ground, if one takes into account that the environment plays a significant role as well.
flying dr definitely forgot, I’d offer to share an idea I had for an off-shoot to war thunder but I don’t want the overlords to steal it and ruin it
The Objectives in sim exist to draw players in and create conflict. Even if your goal is purely to engage with the PvE objective, the enemy team now has a player target to hunt down. Consequently, your own team can reliably predict that an enemy fighter will show up over the PvE objective to hunt you down and thus, they can fly there to hunt the enemy hunting you.
This creates engaging gameplay, and some sense of immersion.
Another purpose of objectives is giving something to do in-between player-interaction.
Yet another purpose is training in a live environment. Hunting NPC bombers helps a lot in learning gunnery and becoming familiar with your guns while maintaining situational awareness that test flight doesn’t provide (and getting RP/SL for it.)
Without the objectives, it would just be a senseless/purposeless team deathmatch only different from air RB in controls and perspective and map size.
By applying the logic that bombing/NPC stuff existing means it’s PvPvE… we can go on and say that Dota2 and LoL are PvPvE as well since there’s neutral creeps and normal creeps and towers and bases to kill.
The sense of purpose created by the objectives and somewhat dynamic battle map is something even RB players wish for - and why I went to play sim myself.
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Exactly.
Or to simplify even further:
- Their job is to complete their objectives.
- Your job is to prevent them from doing so.
- And vice versa…
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and if you removed PvE parts from Sim, you might as well remove most CAS aircraft from the game because they would no longer be playable. Sim is the last bastion where aircraft like the Tornado are actually “good”.
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Personally think there’s nothing wrong with PVE lobbies, Gaijin is at fault making the events so tedious to grind without doing airfield rocket pods runs
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No.
You don’t play to play against bots…
It’s funny this sort of statement, because that’s prejudicing your own idea as anything worth stealing.
Both teams just happening to be in aircraft best suited for PvE and not a lot of PvP happening is fine. I think the issue comes when someone does join wanting to play the full PvPvE gamemode and gets nothing but abuse, TKs, etc. that’s when issues arise