K2 is very well optimized for WT. Autoloaded 120mm gun, 850mm of LOS turret composite, and on par with other attributes compared to similar western mbts. So basically a type 10 that has the turret armor of tech C leopards.
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DDR and FRG exist
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But p5 is on late 9x level so if gaijin will make it with full irccm potential it will be op compare to early 5th gen
My guess is that we will start to see them for SPAA around mid 2025, but not for aircraft. Smin said right before this update dropped that they have no plans on ever adding these kinds of missiles for any aircraft, which includes attackers / bombers.
Do you have the quote for that, that’s a very significant claim that effectively the current missiles we have in game are the end of the line?
I missremembered a bit, it wasn’t “no plans on ever”, but “no plans on adding them anytime soon”.
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Yeah, that’s fair, I expect the earliest we might see them is December this year, as a lot can change over the course of a year, but I wouldn’t expect it.
Still hoping for PL-8B on a J-11B for March or June though, but ASRAAM, IRIS-T, AIM-9X, and basically anything that uses an FPA seeker it is too early for.
The Python 4 like I said is in an awkward spot, by itself it would be fine, given that it uses the same tech as the Stinger, which in game is just gate width + suspension IRCCM, it would be very good but realistically it could be added much sooner than most other modern IR missiles, the issue is it creates a situation where Israel is basically the US but better at top tier, and Gaijin probably won’t do that
PL-8B is similar situation, both multi-element seeker.
I feel like the main problem with the P4 would be all the seething and screeching from everyone else to make the jump to IIR missiles to “close the gap”. Would be quite funny to read though.
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The difference is that the PL-8 is the only IR missile the J-11B should realistically carry, and giving it one without IRCCM would be a crime, the PL-8 also has much worse flight characteristics than the P4, it comes off the rail incredibly fast and only pulls 40G I believe, it’s not a good dogfight missile like the P4 is
More Leopard 2s for everyoneeeeeee!!!
I remember it upgraded engine, but basiclly still a worse Python 4, in mobility
yeah, it’s a supercharged Python 3 with IRCCM, and the python 3 already struggles to pull off the rail, like it pulls a lot of Gs but because it’s going so fast that doesn’t actually add up to a lot of turning
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Imma be honest , India shouldve never been a subtree for UK
I am pretty sure 90% of the UK mains and 90% of the Indians both dont want it, not to mention the other nation mains (esp russians and french) seeing a major amount of vehicles go into the tech tree which already has a lot of its own meta stuff
GB just cant be called GB anymore, its literally just a all in one nation, This makes gamemodes like sim very less enjoyable
Not to mention the fact india has A LOT of unique vehicles, and out of those, the latest 2 addition were copy paste slop, (OSA and Strela), instead of those gaijin couldve added SAMAR or TRISHUL anti air systems of india
There isnt even space in the UK tech tree to provide india a dedicated sub tree line, they already had south africa, what was the point adding another subtree there
It should atleast get enough representation to have atleast 1 line
They could do 1 of the 3 following stuff for india :-
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Put India in Israel , not as a subtree but rather as a combined tree, as both of these tree have similar amount of unique vehicles. Now someone may ask, How is israel and india related, israel actually provided india a lot of defence equipment, from air to ground, air to air munitions (rampage, spice, popeye, I Derby ER) along with air defence systems (Barak 8, SPYDER) and countless avionics and radars along with helmet mounted displays, some of these systems i mentioned were join ventures. Israel even managed to put a r73 on a Indian mirage and also did upgraded a lot of indian tanks. There isnt any other empty tech tree which india could go in other than israel, and also india is prob one of the best nations israel could receive. They might even manage to add vehicles before rank 4 in israel making it a full fledged tech tree and also make a very huge naval tree. Now I KNOW india is a UK subtree but vehicles can be still moved, in past italy was in germany before they made its own tt, in past israeli vehicles were in UK and USA before they moved it, same can be done here and even for the next idea
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Making India a subtree :- Many might say it would be copy paste slop, but its not as many people claim it to be, here is a good ground forces tech tree suggestion which i will link here :- Major Update Concept/Pitch - "Call of Mahabharata" - The Indian Nation & Ground Tree
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Giving 6th line for UK to incorprate a subtree line :- prob the sloppiest idea of all, but requires little effort and gaijin can do it
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I feel it can pull some, it’s not that fast, unlike PL-5. I think the fin’s aoa or other things are limiting it
yeah, on the python 3 and PL-8, but the PL-8B has a stronger motor, so it turns less straight off the rail
The video Q&A " Answering Your Questions / War Thunder ", on the official YT channel.
Hunters plural, there 's a second unused one in the files.
That was in the long-term leak from gszabi 's private source, so it seems possible. Not in the nearest of terms though.
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You are a godsend, thank you
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There is one other thing that could work:
Well, it does keep India a sub-tree it also gives it the full space of a tech-tree, along with making it you don’t need to grind the host or sub tree if you just want to play one of the nations.
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This vehicle its way to cool… better add another linx for germany.