I propose lowering the combat rating of the Abrams

What’s clear is that you act off of impulse and not sense, if only you read my justification for the take that gaijin doesn’t balance top tier armour off of their estimates and not dubious data from random US reports with no citations on your end.

Besides I have spent plenty of time on the bug reporting forum trying to get gaijin to add anything F&F in AGM form to Israeli Jets, and know full well how bad the ignorance of certain gaijin staff can get.

Most if not all NATO armour is rated against Mango and early Svinets, same thing with our rounds, most NATO rounds at top tier are rated to pen the front plate of the T-80U (through K-5) from 2km but one can only dream

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Yes

Are you saying it should face 9.0s?
No thank`s, it is fine where it is

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its clear you haven’t read any of the bug reports as they were given a primary source and a secondary source for the armor and they ignored it, so the next time you talk about impulse and not sense take your own logic and imply it. Gaijin had evidence to buff the Abrams LFP for years and they haven’t done it.

why dont you go read the forum post? its literally still there. rofl the entire community made gaijin look slow so they then locked the post. Hull Armor of the M1 Abrams - Official News, Development Blogs and Updates - War Thunder — official forum gaijin is a joke they ick and choose what bug report to accept and only what they believe is possible lpeople proved the stinger has 20 - 22 g turning when fired gaijin said the ydont believe it can do that BECAUSE THE IGLA CANT DO IT LOL
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By all means, provide some bug reports to see.

And people still assume if it’s peak or average load.

Buffing Stinger would also increase the BR of all slingers as well, thus negating most of effectiveness from the buff itself.

Only because gaijin are incompetent.

Why do you think that ?

For the hundredth time, Gaijin hasn’t buffed the armour because they do not deem the abrams as underperforming to the amount that it needs a desperate fix

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crazy how the strela has 20g overload and sits at 0.3 higher not even a chance, not like theres a 10.0 line up anymore anyways

you are literally braindead if you think thats why they haven’t changed the armor.

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Ah so we should make the T-80B a 9.7 then?

Also, my positive Kd in the abrams strongly disagrees with you that it’s bad and incapable of killing other mbts.

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Why are you citing a random page about the Stinger
Thats not an abrams armour source, are you slow actually dont answer that everyone knows you are.

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Strela is a barebones vehicle that has no radar, no thermals and no autocannon. If Stinger was buffed to the 9M37M levels, vehicles like Ozelot would need to be at the same BR as Strela (9.7 → 10.3) and Stinger slingers with loads of utility like LAV-AD should be 10.7 at the very least.

Do you want that to happen ?

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That’s almost like it’s historically accurate. The M1 abrams was so bad at first, that it was pretty much an faster m60, that’s why in the first few years the M1a1 was crapped out, as it’s hun has difficulty dealing with T-72 and T-80 tanks, but could destroy the T-55s and T62s it saw in desert storm or the gulf war? I can’t remember which was now.

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Got a better answer for me besides ‘wahh wahh gaijin hates the abrams and US players’ ?

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These are US mains they’re either too stupid to understand that raising vehicle performance also raises BR or they just believe everything they play should sit 1-2 BRs lower than its equivalent because “Muh US made it so it has to be the best vehicle in game”

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@BalticSAS
Next they’ll ask for spall liners… oh wait…

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in the minds of religious abrams players, the only way to fix it is make them all 5.7, feature 10 layers of spall liner and have a 1000mm thick turret ring/LFP with a hydrogen bomb tipped dart

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