Funny when they use totally different size cartridges
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Wait what?
Technical data disagrees with you
Hey, there’s a guy who knows what he’s talking about. Didn’t know the T-80UD was the same way.
T-80UE-1, T-80U/M/K/A/M2/D and all based upon T-80U found in game use same 6EC43 autoloader, however even T-64/A have 6 sec reload time, T-80B/64B together use same autoloader so it’s 6 seconds too. I think BVM has 6,5 because it doesnt use 9M112, so Gaijin cant give it 7,1 so they result with what they believe instead.
That does however raise a question of why T-64A has 7,1 sec reload if it doesnt have any guided ammunition, but then again T-64A is one of the oldest vehicles in the game if you consider talking about that era, and by far it’s worse than T-72A that is worse than T-72M1, so it’s worst T serie on 9.3 out of all 9.3 T-series.
aknowledged =/= agreed with it, been couple more times that Gaijin either never implemented it or turned 180 and declined a report after it was “aknowledged”.
I am an Abrams crewmember. It doesn’t have internal spall liners. This was explained in detail, the kevlar portion of the armor is meant to provide the armor with multi-hit capability without degradation and does little to nothing to stop spalling in the crew compartment.
Gaijin never “acknowledged” the Abrams having a spall liner. Their entire ballistics model is fudged anyway and what you should be fighting for is the kevlar vests and helmets that are worn by every modern tank crewman.
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Without ace (expert) it 6.4 Russia are 6.5
I don’t think it count as faster more like the same reload rate rate
Uh huh sure you are. Still doesn’t mean anything when i’ve talked to actual people who have commanded, been the gunners of Abrams and have made them and they all say it does. Not only do we have actual crew members and ex-crewmembers that play this game and they’ve all said the Abrams has a spall liner. So you vs everyone else’s word mean nothing.
they acknowledge the bug reports and the information in them. Just like they acknowledged the Bradley spall liners, even though they somehow still screwed that up. All the Tanks IFV and APCs starting from the 1960s all had some sort of Kevlar spall liner in them, even the M113s have spall liners.
there was a link certifying the apache could load the rounds, something that other guy won’t admit to. Its an old link and had more link but all are gone now.
lol, that is 120% not a thing. The feed system for the M230 is just barely big enough for a 30x113mm cartridge.
Even if the chamber could hold the round and withstand the pressure of firing it, you’d never get a cartridge 60mm longer into the aircraft.
30mm Cannon Ammunition (fas.org) the link at the bottom of the page said otherwise. The link is no longer available.
" The 30mm lightweight family of ammunition was developed to optimize the air-to-ground mission of the U.S. Army AH-64 Apache helicopter. This ammunition family is also compatible with all 30mm x 113 gun systems."
Clearly not compatible with the 30x173 according to your own source…
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I didn’t admit to it because you never showed me that. Hell, on a second look, it’s clear the page is talking about two seperate 30mm ammos. It has both 30x173 and 30x113, and has two seperate sentences.
Besides, you never explained how you would fit 30x173 into a M230 and get it to fire at 1000m/s.
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Yeah all your comments have been non-sense. There is no spall liners in abrams tanks, unless, like I said, SEP V3 and newer got them
why would i explain it when the link that had army researchers talking about it is gone? You also never replied to me how the AH’s getting the AGM 65 would be a down grade, since you want to play the " explain this game "
Obviously you didn’t look at the entire page or read what i typed to you previously. Learn to scroll down.
lol you’re slow. All the Abrams have spall liners the m113s have spall liners, the M60s even have spall liners. I don’t even know why you keep replying you’ve been made to look like a fool on 10 other posts as you argue with people and they shred your opinions outright.
Okay toxic boy if you are so incredibly antisocial why are you commenting in a forum at all?
I don’t know if a 2A7V can pen because I don’t have it researched yet… so commenting on the 2A7 would be stupid thats why I put it in parentheses to make it clear that I simply don’t know.
If you dont understand such simple things you should maybe go to school instead of commenting in a forum
also writing “This is simply nonsense.” doesn’t
prove anything me looking at my expert crew leopard 2 ingame right now says 6.9 seconds reload so your are straight up lying (the loader also has highest reload skill)
You are making up things in your head that don’t make sense at all
Maybe touch some grass and come back
Have a nice day
Yet you felt comfortable enough to claim that Russian tanks outperform western tank in this game.
Spending 30 seconds in the Armour Analysis tool would’ve shown the Leopard 2A7V currently having a better armour profile than the T-80BVM as well as having an impenetrable UFP.
More importantly, you felt comfortable claiming Russian tanks outperform western ones dispite not owning/playing even a single Russian MBT.
‘‘So no I dont think western tanks outperform russian tanks… I think its quite the opposite’’
-Itl_Chiller
AFAIK only the M60-2000 had spall liners as part of its upgrade program.
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I mean, 6s (6.4 expert) is soon to be the highest BluFor/Western reload, the Merkava and Ariete are being changed to 5s alongside the new BR changes
Type 10: 4sec (auto)
Leclerc: 5sec (auto)
Challenger 2E/Abrams/Merkava/Ariete: 5sec (5.3 expert)
Leopard/Strv: 6sec (6.4 expert)
vs the BVM at 6.5 and T-90M/ZTZ99s at 7.1, yeah I’d definitely say there’s a notable reload advantage among western tanks
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