Why are you citing a random page about the Stinger
Thats not an abrams armour source, are you slow actually dont answer that everyone knows you are.
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Strela is a barebones vehicle that has no radar, no thermals and no autocannon. If Stinger was buffed to the 9M37M levels, vehicles like Ozelot would need to be at the same BR as Strela (9.7 → 10.3) and Stinger slingers with loads of utility like LAV-AD should be 10.7 at the very least.
Do you want that to happen ?
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That’s almost like it’s historically accurate. The M1 abrams was so bad at first, that it was pretty much an faster m60, that’s why in the first few years the M1a1 was crapped out, as it’s hun has difficulty dealing with T-72 and T-80 tanks, but could destroy the T-55s and T62s it saw in desert storm or the gulf war? I can’t remember which was now.
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Got a better answer for me besides ‘wahh wahh gaijin hates the abrams and US players’ ?
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These are US mains they’re either too stupid to understand that raising vehicle performance also raises BR or they just believe everything they play should sit 1-2 BRs lower than its equivalent because “Muh US made it so it has to be the best vehicle in game”
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in the minds of religious abrams players, the only way to fix it is make them all 5.7, feature 10 layers of spall liner and have a 1000mm thick turret ring/LFP with a hydrogen bomb tipped dart
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Don’t forget it will survive nuclear bombs like the Obj.279
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Even if they got that they’d find a way to cry i mean the turret ring is acknowledged on the bug report forum and they still cry about it every day
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Acknowledged, but I don’t think they realize how tall the turret sits, the top 1/3 of the turret ring sits out of the armor ring. Thus exposing it.
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As I’ve tried to explain to them a million times, the Abrams’ armour issues are mostly doctrinal, the LFP and Turret ring/breach will always be a weakspot due to their proportions compared to the rest of the frontal armour profile
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Imagine the screeching if US players had to wait for multiple years for major bug fixes like minor nation players do lmao (Chally 1 having its AP detonate when shot was acknowledged for 5 years before it was fixed)
Well most abrams players think it’s unlikable (which history has proven to not be true)
And, as you said, they don’t play hull down nearly at all.
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Oh god, don’t get get me started on the Aubl 74 HVG, I got it in the silver crates in spring of this year… it’d be easier for me to cut my limbs off with a butter knife than have a good time in it.
Because it’s 60 mm spalls like a 20mm.
And I did some digging recently, and found it got bug reported a couple years ago, but nothing has happened about it.
It’s also not survivable in the slightest.
Speaking of reloads, why does the abrams have a 5.0 sec reload for its 120mm, yet the Aubl has a 6 sec for a 60mm… where the first stage ammo is literally between the gunner and commander? (Should be 3.5 secs if abrams is 5 secs tbf).
But gaijin requires historical documents to prove it, yet USA gets constant not historical buffs, kinda one sided if you ask me.
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I noticed they like to stick to a single metric like it decides 99% of the vehicle’s BR placement. In case of AA missiles it’s G-load, in case of base M1 it’s the lackluster pen and in case of top tier M1s is the (actual decent) armor. They’re switching it up as they seem fit.
Just notice how quickly they started moaning about F-15E getting a slight nerf, all the while still being absolute UFO and best plane at that time.
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Plenty of M1s like M1A1 and AIM shouldn’t have received the reload speed buff in the first place.
Giving them 5s reload is like slap in the face to Challengers.
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The chally being stuck with its pitiful 4 round ready rack and soviet level survivability really sucks
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After the reload speed buff, there’s simply no reason to play UK over US, as the latter got better MBTs, lights and AAs.
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Isnt it crazy how it still lacks any ability to detect aircraft through their radars to this day and only has half of it’s G’s? Both of these have been reported for long, with first being reported before Strela-10M appearing on live servers)
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/OkR1pLXOre8V
Truly suffers))))))
It was more like faster M60 with much better mobility armour and fcs, as fcs or stabilisation of M60’s was very lacking, which im pretty sure even USA admits.