Historical Battle Rating discussion

Historical Battle Rating
Check in #2
9/1/2026


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Added Vehicles - In Order of Addition
  • A-129 International Prototype
  • A29CBT
  • A129D
  • ▂A-20G-30
  • A.109EOA-2
  • F-16XL
  • A-4B
  • A-4E
Wip Vehicles
  • A-4E Early (M)
  • A-4E
  • A-4H
  • Ayit
  • A-5C
  • A-6E TRAM
  • A-7D
  • A-7E
  • ▄A-7E
  • A-7K
  • A-7K
  • A-20G-25
  • A-26B-50
  • A-26B-10
  • A-26C-45
  • A-26C-45DT
  • ▄A-35B
  • A2D-1
  • A5M4
  • Hagiri’s A5M4
  • A6M2 mod. 11
  • A6M2-N
  • A6M2
  • ␗A6M2
  • ▃A6M2
  • A6M3 mod. 22
  • A6M3 mod. 22Ko
  • A6M3
  • A6M5
  • ␗A6M5
  • A6M5 Hei
  • A6M5 Ko
  • A6M5 Otsu
  • A6M6c
  • A7He1
  • A7M1 (NK9H)
  • A7M2
  • AB 205 A-1
  • Tzefa D/E
  • AH-1F
  • Tzefa A
  • AH-1G
  • Tzefa B
  • ▅AH-1E
  • AH-1S
  • AH-1S Kisarazu
  • ␗AH-1W
  • AH-1W
  • AH-1Z
  • Rooivalk Mk1F CSH
  • AH-56A
  • AH-60
  • AH-64A (GR)
  • Peten
  • AH-64A
  • AH-64A Peten
  • ▃AH-64A Peten
  • AH-64A
  • Saraph
  • AH-64DJP

From this point on I have decided to take into account vehicles weaponry, this means that if a vehicle has a BR lower than one of its weapons it will be grafted up to the highest BR, this will also apply to mods such as armor, thus each vehicle is being treated as its spaded config instead of stock config. I can’t say if this drastically changes things but one thing for sure the next check in (likely) will have lots to talk about regarding ammunitions and mods. I have decided not to apply this to vehicle skins or names as those can be willingly changed by the players themselves. So far, I have applied this (in regards to weaponry) to the A-10A Late and the ▂A-20G-30.


And please, feel free to correct me on anything, new sources are always welcome as long as they follow Gaijins rules (No Classified Documents!)



Note: the current list will be revised to accommodate changes when necessary

Poor alpha jet TH at 14.3br by this

Please explain

The Alpha Jet TH modernization only happened in 2003, and thats just at the earliest, its gotten modernizations up until like 2014 where it went to phase II.

You cant take the vehicles at face value, some vehicles are completely different from what the name entails

In case you need some for ground vehicles:

M46 - 1949
M47 - 1951
Conqueror - 1955
T-10M - 1957
Centurion Mk.10 - 1959
M60 - 1960
T-62 - 1961
Leopard 1 - 1965
Chieftain Mk.3 - 1968
T-64A - 1969
M60A1 AOS - 1972
Chieftain Mk.5 - 1972
Leopard A1A1 - 1975
T-72A - 1979 - 1983 (HHA applique module)
T-64B - 1984
Challenger 1 - 1983
IPM1 - 1984
M1A1 - 1985
Leopard 2A4 - 1985
Leopard 1A5 - 1986
Chieftain Mk.10 - 1986
T-80U - 1986 - 1991 (Thermal sight module)
T-72B - 1987
M1A2 - 1992
Leopard 2A5 - 1995
M1A2 SEP - 1999
M1A1 AIM - 2000
T-90A - 2004
T-80U-E1 - 2005
M1A2 SEP v2 - 2008
T-72B3 - 2011 - 2016 (UBH module)
T-90M - 2017
T-80BVM - 2017
M1A2 SEP v3 - 2020
Leopard 2A7V - 2020

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Top tier yak130 lol

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@Stona_WT Sorry to ping you, I know you changed the location of this thread before, and I made an edit and couldn’t remember where it was before. Feel free to move this thread to a better spot :)

Thanks man, unfortunately I am using suggestion guidelines and need two or three different sources to back these up before I can confidently add them

This is good list, minor corrections about T-64 though:

T-64A should be 1971 in game (60’s version would be nice to see in game though)
T-64B is the 1984 version, but the BV armor module is 1985; (1 year difference doesn’t really matter tho)

Also as I alluded to earlier, ammunition is vastly different from vehicle year, as mentioned the ammunition situation is chaotic. So this isn’t including ammunition based on year ofc. (Ex: T-10M getting '60s ammunition, or the T-64BV I mentioned would move up to '86 with 3BM42, M1IP getting later M900, etc.).

They can run the test of this idea with pages of history.
I like vehicles that struggle, victory is sweeter.

Historical Battle Rating
Check in #3
9/9/2026



Additions

Removed all vehicles from the main project but kept them in the changelog

AIM-9B
AIM-9D*
AIM-9E*
AIM-9G*
AIM-9J*
AIM-9L*
AIM-9M*
AIM-9P*

AIM-120A*


Working on weapons right now, need sources for lots - please if you know where I can find information please share it, especially for the AIM-9, AIM-7, AIM-120, and AGM-45 :)
Still slow going, especially since not only the event started but FFAR and Zuni are going to be a pain as they will create “Choke points” in which weapons suck vehicles up a couple BRs than normal resulting in large clumps of vehicles across the BRs. Thinking about leaving anything unguided out of the way.


Battle Rating 2.0 - Google Spreadsheets


Missing 9N on the list

I haven’t done it yet; this list is just of all additions I’ve done so far - the * means I need a second source

i’ll put this here, this should not be even an idea especially if you think about the type 64 light tank in the chinese tech tree since that’s from the year 1975 which would make it a higher br than the t-72 and the M60A1 with the AOS upgrade

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Its not like its lacking a powerful cannon or anything

for 1943-45 it’s a good cannon…not for 1975 keep in mind it’s just an M18 turret strapped onto an m42 duster hull with not much changes and you want it to fight M60 AOS, M48a5, T-64As, and the bloody LEOPARD 2K (it’s a 1973 prototype) in a downtier and it would be a higher BR than the MBT/KPZ-70 series oh god don’t even get started on a full uptier where it will face M1 abrams, T-80Bs, Gepards , Merkava 1s, M3 bradley and BMP-2…

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They could have Tiers count as eras (more or less) or generations … and lock down what the vehicles meet. For example, a t6 10.3 wouldn’t ever meet a t7 10.3. This way you can place higher the vehicles that would be OP to never meet vehicles that would be garbage , and have historical MM as well…
But yeah… most players/gamers can solve such “issues” with 2 mins thinking… GJ (a whole company) can’t in years…
Or they can but making you pay is better…

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It would be interesting if, at least in ARB, there were an option to use lower-BR aircraft in higher-BR matches. For instance, I prefer using the F4U-1A (BR 2.7) in 4.3 BR matches (which is roughly its historical BR). While you can simply pair a lower-BR tank with tanks at your desired BR level, doing the same with aircraft in ARB is completely impossible unless you are playing in a squad.

Ayrek2023’s Historical Battle Rating Project (2.5)



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Big changes have been made, the US Abrams and Russian T-90 family has been completed (unless they add more), Integration of the old additions is underway and a new document for sources has been added (to avoid unnecessary clutter), I have changed to a more professional way of citing sources. I have also decided (as of today) to work on vehicles by update. Regarding modifications and ammo, I will also be giving them BRs, sources for modifications can be found under the specific vehicle in the sources and ammo will get its own category, I plan to additionally create a suggestion for dynamic battle rating depending on mods which will tie in and ultimately be a requirement for this mod when I suggest it.

Battle Rating 2.0 - Google Sheets
Battle Rating 2.0 Sources - Google Docs