Yeaa armed with 120 exacly so its fair correct me if im wring but its 13.0 not 12.0
Its a 9.7 aircraft firing Aim-120 and it can beat the F-14, which is a 12.0 aircraft firing F-90s.
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Huh 9.7?
If it has 120 it not 9.7 its 13.0 thats the point
Just compre AC-8C and AV-8B plus its litterally same plane, just 13.0 has AIM120
Exacly dude thats why it can go against f14 with 120
In your logic f16am should be 12.7 cuz it has performance of f16a
I just told you what was Morvran trying to say and you misunderstood
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The sea harrier fa2 has essentially the exact same airframe as those found on aircraft like the harrier Gr3 or av-8c. Just with a slightly better engine. Why it’s at 13.0 and not 10.7 like the FRS1 or 9.7 like the aforementioned aircraft is the AMRAAM.
Yea i got him but thats dumb logic
Yea i got this whats your point?
Br placement is not just bcuz of the airframe at least not in top tier
Not been killed by them even once.
Then again, i’m not messed up enough to play arcade either
F-14A IRAF without F-90s or Aim-54s would just be an upgraded F-4, likely would be around the 12.0-12.3 mark. Meaning the F-90s are at most increasing its BR by around 0.3-0.7.
Sea Harrier FA2 without Aim-120s and only Aim-9Ms would be 11.7, with 9Ls 11.0 and with 9Gs 10.0. The relative performance/BR increase that results from the Aim-120 is significantly larger.
Sea Harrier FA2 without AMRAAM vs F-14A without F-90s would be a very unfair fight and the F-14 would likely win quite often.
But Sea Harrier FA2 with AMRAAM vs F-14A IRAF with F-90s, the FA2 will win most of the time because the AMRAAMs are WAY better in performance than the F-90s are.
Its also about realistic but if u play around 12.0the 120 isnt much better from the f90 exept in close range
And idc about harrier cuz any jet with fox 3 become much better and cant be lower then 13.0 so why f14 which is a very good jet is 12.7?
F4f ice is 13.0 and it has worse performance then f14
u know why? Bcuz it has fuc*ing fox 3 and so the f14 iraf
F4F-ICE vs F-14A IRAF
ICE has:
Better IR missiles
Better ARH missiles
Better Radar
Better RWR
More Countermeasures
The F-14A will loose to an F4F-ICE most of the time. Currently the ICE is under BRed and should be 13.3. The F-14A IRAF… is brushing 13.0, maybe, but the overall airframe is really bad and its a 1 trick pony. Learn how to defeat F-90s, especially in a very good airframe like the Mirage F1, and you will rarely if ever die to them.
You could decompress that region a little more, but Mirage F1 would likely go up in BR as well, so they would still see each other. The main changes that would help mitigate the early game F-90 spam is a rework of map design to widen the battlefield. The current single track map design just creates the perfect corridor for missiels to hit.
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F14iraf will destroy f4f ice in bvr or dogfight
F4f ice is nsnt undertierd its suffers in 13.3
Yea it has better radar and a bit more cm but the flight performance is ass f14 has worse radar and lower cm amount but good flight performance and better loadout
The early 530F don’t have a PD Radar and are very susceptible to chaff
Not to interject into the whole thing going on here but the Super 530Fs are Pulse so it is the missile going for chaff, not the radar. The radar is quite fine actually.
If the F-4F ICE brings the same AB fuel time as F-14A IRIAF, F-4F ICE wins every time.
That’s what happens when you take a 0.95 - 2.1 TFSC aircraft and compare it to a 0.66 - 2.7 TSFC aircraft in fuel consumption.
Primarily just dogfight, and that’s only if F-14A has fuel advantage.
If fuel is equal, IDK I’d have to test.
Full fuel of F-14A is equal to about 20 minutes of fuel in F-4F ICE.
F-14A doesn’t have good flight performance, it has okay flight performance similar to F-4F and F-111F/C, however F-14B is where you get the 25% extra flight performance due to the engines.
Nah dude no way u thinks f14a has the same level of performance as the flying airbreak ardvard
And i talked about f14iraf not f14a so in bvr there is no question f14 will dogshit on the f4 also in df no one takes full fuel i personally takes about 40 min in the f14a and the flight performance in df when u get to the battle is great
Also for its br the acceleration and climb rate arent bad at all even good i might say and when u go against f4s with ur best long range fox 3 ohh man just play this br and see for urself every game there is at least 3 guys that dying to f90 this missile is busted
It should be 13.3, it suffers due to compression and MM forcing it to face top tier every single match.
My main issue with Fakours is how fast they are. I’ve also had issues with them not pinging RWR for very long either. The IRAF should go up because it is objectively better than the F-14A at the same BR. I’d rather have one plane be sub-par than too good.
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1- Don’t run the F-111F/C in 100% wing sweep mode, it’s not necessary. Max speed with semi-auto wing sweep set to 0 is mach 1.06, use it instead unless you’re escaping a fight.
2- WTRTI AKA localhost says this, not me. I can supply screenshots later.
2 degree per second difference vs F-14B:
And of course we don’t need to bring up F-16A.
Oh, and before you’re like “That’s not fair, where are the ordnance!?” That makes the F-14 lose cause AIM-54s are HEAVY.
3- 40 minutes of F-14A? Okay, I bring 15 minutes in F-4F ICE. Your point?
4- F-14A standard doesn’t have F-90s.
F-14 IRIAF is already 12.7 where it belongs, which isn’t the best long-range Fox 3 as that goes to AIM-120.
I’ve used the F-111F, I’ve made sure to learn everything about it. It’s better in air RB due to its BR and missiles.