Wishlist for Germany (WIP)

Yeah, im pretty sure they were just designated as BMP-1s but the object number would change.

wikipedia’s version of the variants

BMP (Ob’yekt 765Sp1) (Sp stands for spetsifikatsiya – specification) – An early type with a shorter nose section and a larger angled plate at the top of the hull line. The two tool stowage boxes on the fenders were removed. The swim vanes were modified by reducing the number of vanes from seven to four and the fender profile was raised nearer to the horizontal. The fume extraction ports on the hull roof to the rear of the turret were moved outwards and reoriented to point toward the rear of the vehicle. The single torsion bar used to spring the rear roof troop hatches was replaced by a twin torsion bar system. The firing ports on the side were moved up into the armor plate, giving the weapons used in the ports a higher degree of elevation. The vehicle weighs 12.6 tonnes. It was built from 1966 to 1969. It is sometimes incorrectly known as the BMP-A by some Western sources. NATO gave it the designation BMP Model 1966 .[1][3]

  • BMP-1 (Ob’yekt 765Sp2)– The standard production version weighs 13 tonnes. It was built from 1969 to 1973. Vehicles produced from the mid-1970s had a higher hull with more space inside as well as a different shaped nose section which also made it 20 cm longer, giving it an improved swimming capability. The triangular air intake behind the turret was replaced by a circular telescopic snorkel which was raised when the vehicle was afloat. The roof hatches were also slightly rearranged, the air intake located to the front left side of the driver’s station was removed and the NBC sensor cover was moved inwards, closer to the turret. To the left of the turret was a prominent NBC filter cover and the PKM port was redesigned. NATO gave it the designation BMP Model 1970.[1]
    • BMP-1 (Ob’yekt 765Sp2) was equipped with a stabilization system for its 73 mm main gun, a semi-automatic guidance for the 9S428 anti-tank-guided-missile (ATGM) launcher, an improved NBC system, a more powerful engine, an improved automatic loader and improved night vision devices.[1]
      • BMP-1 (Ob’yekt 765Sp3) – A slightly improved and 200 kg heavier version of Ob’yekt 765Sp2. Unlike its predecessors it had OG-15V HE-Frag rounds in its ammunition load. It was fitted with the new 1PN22M2 sight (with an additional tangent scale OG to be used with HE-Frags OG-15V rounds) instead of the 1PN22M1 sight as well as with a traffic signal system (six marker lights and one stop light). The M3 autoloader was removed. It was built from 1973 to 1979. NATO gave it the designation BMP M1976

It’s very confusing, there are a bunch if kinds different variants I want to add to the TT but it’s harder to figure out which is what BR or which is worth it, here is my understanding:

BMP-1 (SP-1): basic BMP-1 already in game
BMP-1 (SP-2): identical externally, has stabilized?
BMP-1P (Early):

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according the page 8 of Fahrzeug review #13:

“This equipment was installed by the NVA starting in 1988. The 92 BMP-1Ps (including twelve K1s, three K2s, and three K3s) delivered in 1988 were also delivered without PALR launchers. Retrofitting took place in the GDR.”

Pretty much this would be in the configuration the BMP-1s were on delivery, no ATGMs but would have smokes. I also assume they’d have the SP-2’s stabilizer.
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BMP-1P (1990):

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BMP-1Ps that received their ATGMs + new side skirts from the BMP-2 done by rwn neubrandenburg. I chose the Name BMP-1P (1990) as that’s the date mentioned in the photo

Also, I’ve managed to gain access to at least 2 copies of Fahrzeug Profiels Via sketchy Russian pirating from 2013, unfortunately it’s like the 2 most useless issues, light trucks and BMPs.

Send your GDR file, id like to see what you have added :)

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Where are people getting that East Germany had a T-80U?

Is technically the FRG meaning west germany.
They… ‘acquired’ 1 T-80U from belarus (ofc not legally).
It is written in the leo 2 book

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How many Pixels?
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They’re screenshots from a YouTube video 😭🙏

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Do we have any photos of the t80

heh, nyet komrade, especially at the time, germany wouldnt have risked taking pictures of such a controversy

The Steyr ADGZ:
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It was armed with a 20mm auto cannon (100 rounds), same caliber as the Panzer 2s, so it would definitely be pretty good in the fire power department. It also had all wheel drive, so the mobility shouldn’t be that bad.

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Nope, it has the 2 cm KwK 35 L/45, which is just basically a Rheinmetall-Solothurn S-18/100, so just the 20x105mm round with some 730m/s and a 146g APHE-T or AP-T round. And 750m/s for 134g Sprgr. L’Spur FF 3,7g Np.10

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wt will never run out of new vehicles goddamn

Kinda depends who you ask, they talk about retrofitting the KwK 30.

If they add the 100 it would be disappointing but still funny at 1.0.

Thats just some russian website, not a credible source at all. And i have never seen a picture with a KwK 30 in it. I dont even think it its feasably possible, as the KwK 35 is just like the S-18/100 on the Csaba (in game), hand held with shoulder stock.

The thing is so obscure that it could have happened and it just got lost in time. Same thing with the KwK 35, it’s basically a dead end for a source until you stumble over it. But yeah it’s just a Solothurn 100 for now.
Source for the KwK 35 (page 75):

Fw 190 D-14

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He 177 B-5

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Quick collection of fun German units still missing.

Flakpanzer M-42
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Hamburg class Destroyers.

Cruiser “Deutschland”

East German S-300 complex

Giraffe launch system @ MAN 8x8 or Leo1 chassis

Experimental Gepard with thermal sights and coils for programmable AA ammo
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SLS complex as supplement for existing IRIS-T SLM
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Fine collection of RAT vehicles, which would be very fun to play.
Caracal
Rheinmetall-ACS-Caracal-4

Wiesel Spike
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Mungo with recoilless AT gun
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Kubelwagen + Flak
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Wiesel RMK30

Wiesel’s with periscope sights, RMK20 and HOT launch tubes
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Fla-Rak-Komplex S-300PMU „Angara“ - The East German Iron Curtain
by the way is that image of the actual GDR one or just some random S-300?

got a lil something

Gepard EOTS Sight Modification: New Glasses eh?
this isnt confirmed to have the programmator coils so dont get ur hopes up just yet

kinda unecessary 😏

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Among my top place on my Wishlist is this:

It would be really fun, a fully armored car (tho not really HMG proof), with good speed (65km/h both ways), a good gun (3,7 cm KwK L/45 and Coax Mg 08) that is not a 20mm autocannon, with great elevation (-10° to +70°, which would make it even great to shoot at aircraft).
It can optionally, when equipped with a big cork add on body made amphibious, if not giving a minimal boost in protection.
Shooting down a bomber with the 3,7 cm Sprgr.40 48g Pent at 780m/s shure does sound fun.

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Couldn’t find any of the east german one for sure - I assume, as it was kept secretive, no pictures where made by public or published.

+1
germany L3/33C also it’s cute i need it.
is there a suggestion about it?

Yes, i already made a suggestion for it long ago. Including a 2nd with MG FF.

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