20mm Mg FF auf Kübelwagen VW Typ 82

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I would like to suggest this Küblewagen armed with a Free movement shoulder stab 20mm Mg FF, which would be more of a novelty, but still usable in the lower Brs. While Penetration of the 20mm is nothing to write home about, it could still be used as a fast and nimble scout car with 520 rpm (pretty much the 2nd highest available for Germany at Rank I) with decent HE rounds against low flying planes (around 30-40° Elevation, depending how low the gunner can go down behind it). It is mentioned that it was used in North Africa, that is however unconfirmed.

It could go at BR 1.0. If not as some event race shooting of cars, such as this and the Russian 4M Mg truck.

More details around the Modification are unknown, however it was supposetly made by the Luftwaffe as a support vehicle.

Visible on the only known picture is that the front right and back left seat was taken out, to the front middle (a bit right) the 20mm Mg FF on a Free moving Podest was mounted with the gunner sitting behind it on the ground (when not in use he moves further back on the backseat). and the back left seat was removed, presumably to store more ammo.

It is visibly fed by the 30 round drum, combined with quick reload and fire rate of 520 rpm it would offer usable suppressive fire. (Even In game against light and unarmored targets, or to simply destroy tracks.

The Aiming angles are unknown, however it is a free moving gun with shoulder stock, presumably around 15-20° Depression, 30° Traverse each side and 30-40° Elevation.

Pictures:(Click to show)

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The Gun:
20mm Mg FF
520 rpm (unsyncronized)
Free Traverse and elevation, shoulder stabilized
Ammo Storage 240 rounds (1x 30 round drum on the gun, 3x to the feet of the gunner, 4x In the Storage box of the Car.)
There were only 3 rounds in service, with 1 further developed possibility.
The Practice and Practice tracer round as well as HE-T round, all of 134g at 615m/s as well as an 121,37g AP-I round was developed at some 635-650m/s.


Enemys it could effectively engage in game:(Click to show)

USA:
LVT(A)(1) (and (4), M8 LAC, M13, M15 and M16 GMC, M2A2, M8 HMC, M3 GMC
USSR:
BT-5/7 (and other versions), T-26 (all), SU-5-1. GAZ-AAA/MM
Britania:
A13 Mk I/II, Tetrach Mk I, Daimler AC Mk II, Mk.VIA AA, SARC Mk IVa, Alecto I
Japan:
Light tanks, Medium tanks through weakpoints (Cooling grills), SPG/H and AA (So pretty much each and every Tank except Ho-I


Generall available ammo:(Click to show)

AP:


PzPhGesch. (AP-I) 121,37g ~635-640m/s ~23mm/10m


Sprgr. L'Spur Üb. (P-T) 134g 615m/s <24mm/10m

Tracer for 1,4 sec ~650m
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Sprgr. Üb. (P) 134g 615m/s <24mm/10m

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HE:


Sprgr. L'Spur (He-T (Sd.)) 134g 3,7g Np.15 615m/s

Sd. after 1,7 sec ~750m Tracer for 1,4 sec ~650m
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The Vehicle:
Kübelwagen VW Typ 82
Produced from 1940-1945
Engine: Aircooled 4 Cylinder Boxermotor 25 Ps (from 03.1943 onwards)
Speed: 80 km/h
Weight: 715kg 106,75kg the gun and all equipment.
Produced: 50.788

Source:
Handbuch des Kübelwagen VW Typ 82
Handbuch der Flugzeugbordwaffenmunition 1936-1945
Private gallery
RH 8/1542

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looks goofy +1

+1 low tier menace/pizza delivery car

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+1, what a lil goober.

great for seeking and destroying +1

Found a 2nd Picture.
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We need more armed cars like this.

Finally some random german Finally armed is Volkswagen

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+1

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Do you know the name of the optic or what the reticle looks like?

It appears to be the ground Scope as also employed on the Mg 151 Drilling.

Found a Report about it. Including some new info.

hey maxi you wouldnt happen to have the spec sheet of 283mm gun for scarnhorst would you +1 btw

Idk. Off topic, but i only know of these available.
http://michaelhiske.de/Wehrmacht/Marine/MARINE/MDv_0170/040/Deckbl.htm

+1 for more cars

Changed the Armarment, its actually an MG FF not FF/M, which means possibly reduced AT perfromance, but slightly improved AA performance (with exception to having to M.Gr.)