Why no Su27S flanker at 13.0 yet?

R 27ER ? vs AIM-7M ? SARH + IOG + DL vs SARH ?
And let’s also add HMS

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9M in sim? Compare radars? Compare RWR? Compare FM?

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Rwr and 9ms are much more powerful than 27er and spo15

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Aim7P exists you know

You know that the F18 has the 7p at 12.7 with a better radar and better rwr

Maybe at super high altitude with targets that don’t crank, but I never had issues with F-15E in the Su-33. LCM chaff being super strong made decoying AIM-120 easy, especially considering the awful TTI giving me ample time to defend. The only problematic things were F-15E players who spammed all 8 of their missiles at me, while I was dealing with other things.

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tbh almost all planes will have problems in that

Yeah, which is why I don’t count that problem as a negative on the Su-33. Missile spam is something everyone suffers from.

some planes can counter that a bit by using HOBS missiles such as R-77 and MICA.

Nope, either 1 Aim-9m or 1 Aim-120B and even at super low alts, the F-15E won the fights. Su-33 is pretty much a better turning Su-27. Both get eaten for breakfast

It’s worse, by a long shot actually.

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Neither are really good for 13.0

Well Su27’s flight model sometimes you can make it work, but su33 is complete garbage

su-27 has smaller turning radius than su-33, the canards of su33 make the instantaneous turn fairly similar to the su-27 even though its like 2 tons heavier but su-33 falls out of the sky much, much quicker than the su-27 because of the weight

the Su-33 has higher ITR if both the Su-27 and the Su-33 are at the same fuel load

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Oh yeah you’re right, just double checked.

yeah well only F18 has the AIM-7P while all russian jets have R27ER and most of them also have HMD oh and R73 Thrust Vectoring IRCCM giga chad missile

and they also have an abysmal radar and RWR for the BR

do you know what is at 13.0?

the gripen with an HMD, good radar, infinte countermeasures and one of the best flightmodels in game

and if the flanker would really be that OP at 13.0, why are there a few other jets that have better KDs than it in RB (where the Flanekr already is at 13.0)
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TLDR it is fine at 13.0 in RB so why wouldnt it in SIm

heck even the F-2A ADTW does quite well for being a premium
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Never had any issues of my own in the Su-33 against even F-16s, Rafales (pre-nerf) and F/A-18s. Yes, all WVR. Maybe I fought especially bad pilots, but they never made me feel totally outmatched. The only threat was HOBS MICA at close range outside of multipath.

Su-33 is a gigantic, heavy kite. That’s just a fact. But it’s a very solid 13.0 BR fighter. F-15E is a rocketship, but it’s not beating much in a dogfight if they engage with engines at max and high speed. They make circles the size of Texas.

in sim alot of people tend to be completly helpless whenever they get into a dogfight, they just start to monkey pull and try to get their missiles to kill you

the problem is when youhave an equal pilot to you in any of those jets you mentioned