I doubt they add anything like that unless it’s as a premium. Current Gaijin trend has been to add SARH equivalent to new top tier plane.
Only ARH premiums have been in form of 3rd gen airframe with ARH like Ja-37.
Moving Su-27 to 13.0 is very minimalist suggestion. It would be strong at BR but also limited due to preferred maps, bad rwr, only so-so flight model etc.
Then buff them or add additional aircraft for that bracket for the US or dont increase their BR to 13.0. All those redfor aircraft are probably not playable against F-15E and Typhoon. So why are you advocating for them to be DOA?
Tornado F3 Late is underperforming considerably. It would be able to fight hose with 352 large claibre flares 216-432 large calibre chaff, a finished FM and Aim-120C5s.
meant J-11
No? I would gladly take on any of the 13.3 redfor aircraft in a torando F3 that was even close to IRL performance.
Much better solution in my opinion that forcing 13.3s to fight 14.0s and forcing 13.0s to fight 13.3s that are now randomly at 13.0.
no, it got kills because at that point everything was revolving around BVR, in which the US platforms were basically uncontested.
I never said it had the best, i said it had one of the best on release, which is a fact, and made it effectively the best missile in the game up until it got nerfed in it’s current state
Yea sure, it was just better than pretty much everything else on release
Still waiting 2 and half years for the GR1 to be lowered to the same BR as the Tornado MFG and later IDS (Italy) and WTD61.
Even 2x R-73s would make the Su-24 more like 12.0 or 12.3 alongside aircraft like the Mirage F1 or Tornaod Gr4 and not at a lower BR than 9L equipped Tonka IDSs.
I don’t see the problem with the Su-27 going to 13.0 EVERY NATION BESIDES RUSSIA HAS AT LEAST 1 OR MORE 13.0s
The fact you cannot agree is pure bias.
Had an entire year of fighting the 12.0 and then 12.3 Mig-29s in the 11.3 Tornado F3 in SB.
I dont really see how soviets are suffering without a 13.0 when they have decent 12.7s and 14.0s and are dominating 11.3 and 11.7 and would benefit from a 13.3 bracket way more than moving 1 13.3 worthy aircraft down to 13.0.
I mean they added the F-16D Barak as a tech tree vehicle so I don’t see why they couldnt do the same for the US F-16D.
This might be pushing it but a PW-220 F-15E with 120A, no SDB, and no HMD can maybe be 13.3 since it would be like Su-34 to Su-27SM
The fox was and still is op. Stock vehicle that gets easy nukes, it’s been nerfed a few times since my post, so clearly gaijin agrees :)
Anytime I play that I still get death threats lol.
But hey, your on the edge of being ToS again, might wanna cool it.
You have never flown the Su-24 so you have literally no say.
You did not just say the MiG 29 is decent… sheesh… it’s radar drops lock as if it’s gotta a dangling wire powering it
The decent one is the Yak-141… but 60 cms is a bit too little for it.
The list of buffs is rather short
Same as above the list is not long
Maybe it would, but none of those buffs are here so it’s not capable
Same as above, the tornado currently is not good, so it would get stomped
It’s 12 degrees per second sustained turn at 5000feet IRL performance? Or the blistering 17 degrees per second initial turn rate?
It already does that.
There’s 6 potential US 13.3 I can think of right now
Sounds like User error.
Fairly average for the BR. Especially in SB. If you are playing 12.7, then you will probably be fighting the F-4S with 60 CMs, or F-18A/C with 60 CMs or F-20, with 45 CMs or F-16s with 60 CMs.
pretty much the only things that get more than 60 CMs at 12.7 for bluefor are the British Mud Movers like the Tornado Gr4 and Harrier Gr7.
So…? Whats wrong with 60 CMs in your fighter vs fighters
Why is this the default atitude for things like this?
Whilst it would be fun for the F3 Late to be 13.0 in the meantime and that hasnt happened yet either. Straight up not advocating buffs where buffs exists instead of actually fixing bug reports seems really dumb to me
Yeah. But it’s not really needed. As it stand currently the USSR has 0 13.0 aircraft.
Like I said everyone else has 1 or more. Then you account for all the 12.7s and there’s a large variety for everyone to chose from.
I’m just saying that US has options for 13.3 so blue for wouldn’t be totally outclassed in a 13.3 bracket
Or how about giving its misisng 352 large calibres flares, 432 missing Large calibre chaff, Aim-120C5s, missing ITR, etc etc.
Advocating for a weak aircraft to be artificially nerfed seems like a really wierd take for someone normally obsessed for aircraft to be at IRL performance, even if the sources he uses are wrong half the time
Right, but that might too much work for gaijin. I’d still love to see the rumored fox bat. Mig-25 would be in a very odd placement.
yeah, it might end up event or sqv because of it. the MiG-31 and its variants are much better suited for WT though
Aren’t they pretty much the same role though?
And ngl with how many zombers are on bluefor, I think it has a role lol.