So does this mean the Sea Harrier FA2 can go down to 12.7 because Britain doesnt have a single 12.7?
Or the F-16AM or Mriage 2K-5F can go down to 13.3 because France doesnt have a single 13.3?
Or the Viggen DI can go down to 12.7 because Sweden doesnt have a single 12.3 or 12.7 aircraft?
or the Netz can go down to 12.7 because Israel doesnt have a single 12.7? (though this should happen ebcause its basically identical to the F-16As already at 12.7)
Why you need something at every single BR is beyond me…
Especially as with the changes Im advocating for, instead of getting 1x new decently playable aircraft, you would actually walk away with 4 (Mig-23SMT, Su-33, Su-34 and Su-27)
Just give the soviets a 13.0 Premium of some description. Like a Mig-29K?
the huge PESA radar, much better performance at lower altitudes, it has a gun unlike the 25, it has a much better armament. they are the same role but the 31 is going to be way better
If the buffs are possible then why don’t you go and make a bug report for them.
And i can’t advocate for buffs when i’m not given any source at hand to support said buffs
It could also be mounted in place of an Aim-9, but I dont have an image for that.
Last we heard from the devs, F3 is slated to get Phimat pods but wouldnt be straight away. That was more than a year ago, so it should hopefully be soon.
as for the FM. Plenty of sources exist, though I dont have them on hand, but Gaijin said they couldnt be bothered to actually fix the FM anymore and are just going to leave it in a half finished state. Gunna try and bug them about that again in the future.
Other buffs like C5s can be easily sourced if you look up the Tornado F3 FSP.
All naval mig29s would get r-77s, and 4 r-27s and the yak 41 radar, so I doubt they can be 13.0. They can add a mig-29s 9.13 which is a upgrade package to the mig 29 in the Russian tt that can carry r-27er and r-77 irl, but gaijin can just give it r-73s as the 13.0 equivalent to the 29g (still slightly worse than the 29g cause worse engines and slightly heavier, but other than that its a good equivalent imo)
Technically image of mig 29m but it has the same hard point options as navalized mig29 so it works
They were closed due to the game engine not being able to model them any better. As you can see low speed STR is underperforming but more importantly ITR at all speeds is underperforming.
They also have too much drag which has eaten a chunk of the max speed as well. We should be like 0.2-0.3 mach faster than we are currently at sea level. Let alone if you include combat thrust which is currently modeled for the Mig-23Bis
But Again.
First things first is to replace the 320 micro-CMs with full performance BOL and add 1-2 Phimat pods.
After that, weapon buffs are available for both 12.0 one and the 13.3 one if needed. (heck, could make the F3 Late into a 14.0+ if you wanted. Technically… it did mount and fire Meteor)
And in the future TRD and other game mechanics not currently modeled. Heck Tornado F3 vs Su-27SM would be rather unfair IRL as the Su-27SM wouldnt actually be able to use their radar once the F3 had locked on as it 100% jammed it.
This is nothing out of the ordinary as far as flight models are concerned. And from the looks of things he did not make any attempt with different flap settings. Also there is no telling whether or not he used full real controls. I know he did not use them in some of his previous reports and instructor does limit ITR.
Here is another example of report basically Gaijin saying that FM is close enough.
That says something entirely different. That report says the player made a mistake in the report and its close enough.
F3 report clearly states the game engine isnt capable.
This has been confirmed already by Smin and Gunjob that the FM is staright up underperforming but the devs wont be attempting to address it further due to the game limitations. Which is why I plan to bring it up probably sometime next year because hoopefully by then, some or all of the limitations might have been removed.
In the meantime:
Full strength BOL
Phimat pods
Missiles buffs if needed
AoA Toggle
TRD/ECM?
Pilot Hand Control / Navigator modeling?
Let alone the big one and to bring it back to this thread:
Dev literally says FM is close enough and except for Mach .5 anomaly. They also think he might have measured wrong. However it is RiderR2 report and he rarely gets those things wrong since he tests with full real controls and trim.
If you actually take time to overlay turn information from the game vs the real EM diagram you will see that F-16A has region where all the turn rates overperform and region where all turn rates underperform.
Brit MOD says MiG-25 has like a 12 degree per second sustained turn rate. Even with it’s advancements it’s not like the MiG-31 will be significantly better.
I want the plane but also realistically it will be abysmal garbage for most people to play outside of lobbing funny Phoenix equivalent missiles from across the map and hoping for the best.
It’s flight model performance would basically be equivalent of something like the Tornado…maybe even worse in some regards.
